E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
College Chaos, Tiebreakers, And NFL Reality Checks
We weigh rivalry emotions against playoff math, from Ohio State’s injury questions and Michigan’s edge to the Big Ten’s six-step tiebreaker. Then we press the NFL’s soft spots: wide receiver depth for contenders, the Colts’ fourth-quarter stall, and how one tie can make or break a seed.
• Ohio State health concerns and identity vs Michigan
• Big Ten tiebreaker ladder and playoff implications
• SEC three-way tie paths and head-to-head weight
• ACC and Big 12 late swings and ranking politics
• Bills and Ravens wide receiver strategy critique
• Colts-Chiefs lessons on adaptability and game flow
• Cowboys-Eagles second-half shutout and the tie effect
• Christian McCaffrey usage and workhorse redefined
• Thanksgiving and Black Friday games with seeding stakes
• Late bye weeks and roster recovery timing
Okay, I guess we are live. We just got somebody viewing, so welcome to another episode of the Epic Podcast. Me and Jared are here tonight. I know we kind of late, but uh we still gonna do what we do, man. How was your sports week?
SPEAKER_05:Oh cool. Be trying to remember what uh Bengals loss. Uh Lakers been doing well. Yeah. Uh yeah, that's pretty much it, man. Nothing too exciting. What about for you?
SPEAKER_03:Uh coach loss. Uh Pacers still losing. Um for some reason. There's a phone going on. My wife's on. Hold on.
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SPEAKER_04:Sorry about that. Um, but yeah, no. Um coach lost. Pacers still losing. Uh what else? Batman won by a lot, but kind of expected that. Um, they weren't playing nobody. And yeah. Yeah, man. That's that's about it for me. This wasn't really not going on too much, but I kind of kind of called the coach uh situation for what it was, even though a lot of my fellow fans didn't want to hear it, but I kind of kind of brewed that up as a perfect storm for them to lose. Um so but uh yeah, no, I mean I want to get into some some college football talk real quick. We're not gonna drag this out too too long.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, they're keeping the the uh the health of you know our wide receivers just hush hush. I don't even understand how that's even like not against the rules or anything. So I mean, Carnell Tate hasn't played in three weeks, I don't think. And uh uh Jeremiah Smith hasn't played in the game and a half, so I don't know if they're gonna be there. I don't know if they're gonna be 50%, 90%, 100%. I don't know. Um, but this game, I mean, we we've talked about it before. Um, it don't matter what the records are, it's gonna be, you know, a bloodbath. Uh, especially since, you know, Michigan, they're they've been caring more lately. And I mean, it and it's showed on the field. Um, so I mean, it's it's gonna be just down to whether Ohio State can match the intensity or you know, are they gonna try to finesse their way through, which you know, we've been for quite a few years, um, you know, finessing instead of like being really physical. So we'll see it. I mean, they're gonna have a whole new set of playbook, I mean, a whole new set of plays, they're gonna have a whole new scheme, like nothing's gonna be anything like the regular season. Like, yeah, they they they bring out something. It's like a completely different team almost. Um, so I mean, we're just gonna be ready for it. From what I've seen from Ohio State this year, I I don't know. Like, we've been we've been a real mysterious team, and I mean we've talked about it before. Um, I just I I really don't know what to expect. So um I mean, we'll see. Well, I don't know though, because uh they got they'll have one loss and we'll have one loss. Then they'll have the head-to-head tiebreaker. So I I think we're out. Michigan only will have one Big Ten loss. So they might be the same, which I ain't mad at that situation. But I mean I feel like Yeah, I feel like for the for the for the you know, the the bettermen of Ohio State football fans, we need to win that game because I mean the amount of Michigan fans that have popped up in the last four or five years has been something crazy. So like just so they can like shut up a little bit, like we need to win that game. But I mean, anything can happen. If we lose it, we're out of the Big Ten championship, most likely. Um we rest enough for the playoffs. I mean, we may have to play a, you know, well, we would for sure have to play, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:We for sure have to play a first round matchup, but it'll be at home. That's what I'm saying. So I don't know how that tiebreaker is gonna work, but you know, I don't think I don't I don't I don't think that's it.
SPEAKER_05:Because they want the they want the uh the conference championships to only deal with conference wins and losses. So I don't think the overall record Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like I I I don't they can't, I mean they they'll they'll branch on to something else after that, but I don't it's not gonna be overall record.
SPEAKER_06:Nah, I don't think let's look it up.
SPEAKER_05:I'm no I'm saying no, I'm saying let's look up the tiebreakers. I mean they used to do it by like uh division inside the conference, but they don't have divisions no more, so uh championship tiebreaker. Big team championship tiebreaker is a six-step process that starts with head-to-head results between tied teams. If a tie remains, it moves to rec yes, it gets slipperier after that. You have to look at uh records against all common conference opponents. But for teams with all one losses, I don't even know how that would even come into play. Followed by records against common opponents with the best conference records. Further tiebreakers include the best cumulative conference winning percentage of all conference opponents, the highest ranking by sports analytics, and finally a random draw. So yeah, they whoever wants it can have it, bro. If we lose to Michigan, go for it. I don't I don't I don't want it. Like, go for it. Because I mean, and it's like people's like, well, you're gonna have to play one more game in the playoffs. Well, the Big Ten championship is guess what? Playoff game. So, like, you know, it really doesn't matter. Regardless, win or lose against Michigan, we're gonna have to win four games to get to the national championship. Well, I guess if we if we beat Michigan, we could go three and one and win a national championship. So we beat Michigan, we could lose the IU, still be number two, still get first round by. I I don't know, man. They gotta have to figure that out. I don't get paid enough. I'll be watching the game, that's all I know. And then whatever happens, happens. Fuck it. I know if one thing though, I am betting, like I did last year. I'm I'm betting uh the opponents from here on out. It's either uh we gonna win or I'm gonna win. Ohio State and decide that, you know, whatever. We all win or I win by myself, and everybody, you know, we lose, you know, Ohio State loses. So we'll see. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Unfortunately, I think it ain't gonna work out the way you want it to. I think y'all gonna be in.
SPEAKER_05:Whatever. So I mean, I'm taking whatever. I just want to win a national championship. So however, kind of however they want to break that down, I'm cool with it. If you want to lose to Michigan, uh not get the get the first round by, run the table like you did last year, cool. If you want to whatever you want to do, I'm cool with it. Just win. Yeah, long as you win.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so and I mean I mean the first round by, I mean, it is what it is, but I don't think it dictates too much. I don't think it will. Especially since it's a home game. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Like, I don't I I I I don't think I'm pretty I'm pretty comfortable with with uh Ohio State playing anybody in the country at home and for the playoff game. Like, I'm not right. I'm not worried about Oklahoma at the shoe. Like that's that's the least of my worries. But anything can happen though, so for sure.
SPEAKER_04:Um next team, big uh Big Ten, blah, Indiana. I mean, they got Purdue, so I mean they're in the business there.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:There are a lot, absolute lot.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I was about to say, yeah, yeah. But then after that, I mean, I'm looking at Texas AM. Uh, they get Texas. That's a good game. So, yeah, and that can that can, I mean, I don't think it's gonna stir the pot. I mean, even if they lost, they would just get on one conference loss. But then you have a four-way tower with one conference loss between Alabama, Ole Miss, Georgia, and Texas AM. Which, speaking of then, let's see who Georgia gets last. Georgia gets Georgia Tech. So, I mean, that ain't no pushover. Georgia Tech's been playing playing real good this year.
SPEAKER_05:They just got demolished though by somebody weak. Was it Smike? Uh yeah, they just lost to pit 42 to 28. Yeah, they was getting smacked. They was it was like 28 to nothing when I was tuned in. I'm like, damn.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Yeah, so, but I mean, they've played worse in past years. Uh so they get them, uh, let's see, you got Texas Tech up there. They play West Virginia, which I mean, they 2-6 in the conference. So I don't think that uh, well, I mean, Big 12, you got Texas Tech. Well, it'll probably be Texas Tech BYU. Let's see who BYU's next opponent is. They got UCF, yeah. They so it's probably gonna be Texas Tech and BYU in the Big 12 championship. Um what other conference? Okay, we talked about Oregon, uh Ole Miss. What's their conference? Yeah, we talked about they're all in a tie. So I wonder how that's gonna work out. Uh, even if Texas AM beats Texas, you still got a three-way tie between Georgia, Ole Miss, and Alabama, which Alabama's beat Georgia. But uh, who's Ole Miss beat? Let me look at their record. They get Mississippi State. They lost to Georgia, though. So I don't know. I guess with them losing to Georgia and then us beating Georgia, that probably that might put us in the SEC Championship game against Texas AM. Just because if if the if the criteria holds true across all conferences, then it's head-to-heads. And even though Georgia is ranked above Alabama and Ole Miss, it's like, okay, well, even though you beat Ole Miss, you lost to Bama. And Bama hasn't played Ole Miss, so they don't have a direct head-to-head. So they might get it on, you know what I mean, just on that on that technicality of Ole Miss and Alabama not having a head-to-head to to put up there.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they have these uh they have these breakdowns on uh online if you Google it. Because I had just looked up Big Ten while you was kind of explaining uh what was going on with uh the SEC. And um so Indiana's a lock. So even if they lose to Purdue, they're still in because one loss, uh, they don't, you know, there's no tiebreaker situation with losing to Purdue because they're far from in it. So they're in. Uh we Ohio State needs to either beat Michigan or if they lose Okay, it's the same thing. There are a few scenarios that uh, one of which would be Purdue, Shock, Indiana. That's not gonna happen. Oregon beating UC USC, which they've already done before. If USC loses to Washington, it yeah, I um yeah, I I I there's too much going on, bro. Uh so yeah, there's a few different scenarios. They got them laid out here, um, you know, what has to happen in order for each team to make it in. Let me see what it says from Michigan. It says uh Michigan needs to beat Maryland, which they've already done. They would need to beat Ohio State, and then USC would have to lose to uh Washington Saturday, and then they would make it in.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So same thing here. Um so they have a win win and end scenarios. Texas AM, they just need to, they can clinch with a win over Texas. Alabama uh will play Auburn this week. If they win, they need they will need Texas AM to lose to get in or win. Or win in a three-way tiebreaker if Ole Miss also wins. Uh need help, Georgia needs help. They would need Texas AM or Alabama or Alabama to lose. Uh Ole Miss must win the game against Mississippi State and have both Alabama and Texas and Texas AM lose. So that's what I'm saying. I think it'd probably be Bama uh and Texas AM because they both have to just win to get in. But if Texas AM lose, um it could probably be.
SPEAKER_06:I think they I don't think if they lose, they're even out.
SPEAKER_04:Or Georgia. It says Georgia can win. Uh Georgia, no, Georgia will be in if Texas AM lose. Or Alabama lose. Any one of them lose, then Georgia will be next one in. And Ole Miss needs both of them to lose to be in, because then it will be Ole Miss versus Georgia if Texas AM and Bama both lost. So and it says it's Bama versus Georgia versus Ole Miss in a three-way tie, Bama wins out. Uh, but if Texas AM lose, loses, and Bama and Texas AM could be tied, so it could be a different tie, but yeah. So I Bama just needs to be Auburn. Which for some reason Auburn just turns into a superpower against us. That's how that's the same way with a hot segment, bro.
SPEAKER_05:They just turned into like the super team against us. Same thing, and it hasn't been like that for a while until just just these past four years. I said, we've had the better team, but they've just wanted it more. It's just meant more to them, and but you know, more power to them. But it's it's it's time that we uh we're gonna take care of that, yeah. It's about that time, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So um I think we good. Uh they haven't updated the the playoff thing, but I think we just kind of took care of that with these. Uh let's look at week 14 and see what games we got coming up. I know we got some meaningful games. There's always some meaningful games. Um, of course, O Miss can't lose to even be in contention for the SEC Championship. Uh, same thing with Indiana. Indiana can't lose. Georgia can't lose to Georgia Tech to be in contention. Texas AM can't lose to Texas to be in contention. That's probably the best game. Well, I would say that Georgia Tech Georgia game at 3 30 and that uh Texas AM Texas game are probably gonna be the two best games that's gonna matter the most. Um and I mean that's those are on Friday. Oh, those are tomorrow. I didn't know that. Oh yeah. What's tomorrow? I mean, not tomorrow, Friday. I'm not tomorrow. I'm tripping. Say Thursday, Tuesday, Friday, those games are on Friday. So the Indiana Purdue game, the O Miss game, the Georgia, Georgia Tech game, and the Texas, Texas AM game are all Friday. I'm forgetting that there's black.
SPEAKER_05:Damn, Texas and Texas AM is on Friday?
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that's on Friday.
SPEAKER_05:Yikes. That's a night game, though. Uh that's 7 30. That's cool though, because I know we play at noon on Saturday, and if we lose, I'm per usual, I'm not gonna be worth a damn the rest of the day.
SPEAKER_04:So yeah, yeah, I do play at noon. And then Bama.
SPEAKER_05:That's gonna ruin the motherfucking weekend. That's actually gonna ruin the holiday, actually. For sure.
SPEAKER_04:Alabama, they uh they play Saturday night. Uh any meaningful games. That Miami pick game, I don't think that's gonna matter. Oregon, Washington. They I don't think Oregon can lose either. Um button. They gotta win if they need some help to get to the Big Ten Jermionship. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They can't lose. Uh that's really it. Vanderbilt, Tennessee, but that's for nothing. Who's who the hell is going to the ACC championship? Oh, we didn't talk about ACC shoot. Let's look.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I can't even guess. I wouldn't even be able to guess.
SPEAKER_04:Um that's a great question. Let me let me pull up uh let's just look at Miami real quick. I can see the records. Uh Virginia. Oh, so you got a three, you got a three-way tie with Virginia, Pitt, and SMU right now. Um let's see who Virginia plays. Virginia last game is Virginia Tech, which that's gonna be a tough game for them. Pittsburgh last game is against Miami. And SMU's last game is against Cal. Uh so right now it kind of looks like Miami. Uh, I mean, Pittsburgh probably got the toughest road to get to the ACC championship, only because they got to play Miami. Uh Virginia playing Virginia Tech and SMU playing Cal. I think it might be SMU and Virginia. Even though Miami is uh ranked the highest right now at 12. I don't think nobody else above them, even in the conference, even though they got two conference losses, Georgia Tech is ranked 23rd with their most recent loss. Duke only got two losses, they're not ranked at all. Virginia's got one conference loss, they're 9-2, but they're 18th. Pittsburgh, they're 22nd, and SMU is 21. So even though Miami's not going to the conference championship, don't look like. Yeah, because of their two losses. Uh look like it may be an SMU Virginia ACC championship, which will be interesting. Oh, well, they don't automatically get in now. That's right. I keep I can't get it last year out of my head. So even just because you're the conference champion, don't automatically get you in. So that won't even, I don't think that'll affect Miami as long as Miami beats Pitt. Um, I think they'll still be in, because they're 12 right now. I think they'll hold steady at 12. So I think maybe that Notre Dame win may help Miami uh to stay at 12. Because they even though it was the first game of the season, I think that may. Because they was because Notre Dame was ranked sixth at that time. Um I think that may keep them at 12. Uh, but they probably need to put a whooping on pit though, because you know that that style points matter too. So they sure do. Especially this time of the year when they're starting to nitpick on wins and losses and how you won and who you won to and strength of schedule. You know, all they they about to start splitting hairs to try to make sure they get the right people in, which nobody's ever gonna be happy with if their team ain't in, so it don't matter. Right. Um yeah, man, jump over to the grown man uh league, talk a little NFL, recap that that week, or this week, I should say, to just pass. Which I can't change the logo, but nonetheless. So recapping last week, man. Um any game surprise you from last week? We're talking about NFL, right? Yeah, NFL.
SPEAKER_05:Uh I think uh the Lions farting around with the Giants as long as they did was kind of surprise. It was. Oh, it's OT. Yeah. That ain't no good. Um, because you know, I'm I'm big on how you win, you know. So um, so that I think everything else was pretty pretty pretty smooth, though. I don't think anything else necessarily surprised me.
SPEAKER_04:Uh Bills Texans on Thursday night?
SPEAKER_05:Uh the Texans defense is really good. Like they're they're really, really good. Um, so I don't really know if that was surprising. I mean, I I think I think um I think the uh Bills are under a little underwhelming. I just don't know what their wide receiver game is talking about. Like, I don't like I don't understand how you can have a quarterback so great and then you just don't have any receivers. I don't I don't understand that. Um I mean that's kind of the same thing.
SPEAKER_04:But they got they got a couple, I think they got two of them hurt.
SPEAKER_05:Uh they top two is hurt. Um they top two. I know I know Coleman was a healthy scratch, so I don't know what he's doing or not doing, but they're not missing you. I can tell you right now.
SPEAKER_04:Shakir was out. I don't think he played. Let me see. Yeah, he didn't play.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, he didn't play?
SPEAKER_04:I don't think he played. Let's see. This game. Oh, yeah, he did. My bad. Not him. Who was where's go play? Where's the injuries at? There we go. Uh so Curtis Samuel was out. Kin Cake, that's the other one who who was out, who was hurt. They just signed Nicole Hartman, but he got hurt. He's on IR right now. Uh, so yeah. So they had a couple guys that was out, but I don't know, man. I'm starting to think the Buffalo Bills are are are kind of fraudulent right now, man. Like, I know when you think of him, you just think of Josh Allen, and like that should be enough. Um, but just starting to show that it is not.
SPEAKER_05:I absolutely don't think that. I mean, I think you need you gotta have some guys around you. I mean, it's like the same issue that I think about the Bills is what I what I thought about what I think about um the Ravens. Get some wide receivers, like some real ones, you know, and not all projects or experimental guys, like and they've had guys like like how did you let Cooper get out the building?
SPEAKER_04:Cooper a more cooperative, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts. Why you let how you let him get out the building? There's no Odell's out there. They're like, there's guys that's out there that still got something left.
SPEAKER_05:Like man, teams are just weird, bro. Like they they'll like a team will just get Odell and then they don't use them. Like, that's another thing the Raven that screwed up the Ravens up in that playoff game. When they actually threw to Odell, he was making plays, but he was only out there probably 15 plays the entire game. I don't even think he played that many plays. It's just I don't know, I just don't understand what teams be thinking. And I mean, I guess it's not for me to understand, but I totally don't get it.
SPEAKER_04:No, for sure. There's definitely guys out there that can help. Like, you gotta do something.
SPEAKER_05:Then guys will pick up, you know, uh a DeHondre Hopkins. I mean, the Ravens as well. Don't use him.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't get it. Like you just got him out there as a distraction, right? I don't understand it. No, for sure, for sure. Um, like we was kind of talking about at the beginning of the show, Coast Loss kind of set that one up. Like I said, being at Arrowhead, coming off a bye. Um You know, maybe kind of resting on your morals a little bit. All three of the losses came in away games. So that was another thing. And like the Chiefs just coming off of a bad loss of a game they probably shouldn't have lost. And playing us in a game that they can't afford to really lose. They kind of maybe got to win out to even make wild card, just the way the AFC wild card is shaping out. So it was kind of a perfect storm for the Coastal Lose. Going into OT. We couldn't, we I don't even think we got a first down in the fourth quarter. 18 yards in the fourth quarter. This is one of those games that I believe that it was for Daniel Jones to show that he was that guy that can go out and win you a game. And he didn't. Jonathan Taylor, you know, they they shut down the run. The Chiefs shut down the run. And you couldn't do anything. Like you couldn't move the ball when we needed to get a field goal. You know what I mean? If nothing else. Like to win the game. Like you just couldn't. And it wasn't turnovers. This is like three and outs consistently. So um they gotta change that up because in the playoffs, you're not always gonna be able to run the ball. Like they're gonna take away your best. The thing you do best, teams are gonna start taking away. And right now that's Jonathan Taylor. You know what I mean? Either the O-line is gonna have to be better and you impose your will on other teams as far as running the ball, or you gotta anticipate, okay, if they take Jonathan Taylor away, what's next? And we was kind of talking about last week about paying him and what the future looked like with Daniel Jones. Like, dude, if you can't win these type of games against a struggling Kansas City team, like, bro, there's way worse teams out there.
SPEAKER_05:Right now, it was garbage too. The hard uh they could have been handing it off to JT, but they wasn't.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. But I think, and that's another thing too. I noticed with them is like when something's not working, they just quickly go away from it. Like, they don't even attempt it no more. And it's like when you got somebody like Jonathan Taylor back there, like he's one run away from breaking a 50-yarder, like it's just like you know it's there. So to just go completely away from it and then just throwing the ball, throwing the ball, throwing the ball, and you can't get a first down. Like, that's madness to be. You know what I mean, and not even gave them a chance to send it to OT. Because the Chiefs only they scored 11 in the fourth, but they didn't score anything in the third. You know what I mean? Like one field goal away from not letting them score at all. Like, you know, not even going to OT or whatnot. So it was just, I don't know, man. Like, but this is the part of the schedule, like I said, I wanted to see because now you got to play the Jaguars twice. And there's only a game separating the Texans, the Jaguars, and the coach.
SPEAKER_02:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:You have this big old lead, and now, like I said, this is the time of year where the good teams that may have started off bad are playing good. So while we may have dropped the Jaguars, well, the Jaguars didn't start off bad, they've just kind of been a roller coaster. But we may have thought the Texans were bad, their defense is playing phenomenal. We play them next week. And like I said, before the end of the season, we play both of them twice. And we already know our history with the Jaguars. So we can very well not win the division.
SPEAKER_05:That's nuts.
SPEAKER_04:So I hope not. But you know, I try to keep it real in perspective when it comes to the coach, and it's very well may happen. Um, but outside of that, man, one of my favorite games uh this week, the Cowboys Eagle game. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh Cowboys definitely sell some fight. They're back at 500. Um, yeah, I shut the Eagles out in the second half. The Eagles didn't score in the second half. Niggas was up 21-0. Yeah. It was up 21 and nothing. And then at halftime, they was up 21-7 and then didn't score anymore. They literally shut them out. Um, so I I don't know if this would be a boost for the Cowboys. They did get a lot of defenders back uh this past week. So the defense is playing better. So I I don't know, man. Dallas could be a sleeper sneaker into a wild card spot in the NFC if they keep playing like this.
SPEAKER_05:So they only what they only what two games out of the lead now, right? Yeah, and that tie may help them. Yeah, that tie is like a uh uh yeah, but it also might hurt them too, though. So them ties is weird, you know, because granted, that's a game that you didn't lose, but it's also a game that you didn't win. So it could it could possibly screw you both ways.
SPEAKER_04:But I think with it with with them and um I forgot what other team it was. I can't remember, but I was just reading somewhere how the the tie will help them. I tried to remember because I wanted to bring this up.
SPEAKER_05:You might end up you might end up with the same amount of losses as somebody else, but they got an extra win and you got that tie. So that'll be a situation where it would hurt you. You know, say say say say they went out or whatever, and the uh Eagles lose two more, so they both end the season with five losses. Eagles are gonna have one more win, granted, they don't tie going out. So that's a situation where that tie will screw them. But also on the top end with if you match a team and wins, say some kind of way them and the Eagles finish the season with the same amount of wins, they're gonna have that one less loss. That's where the tie is gonna help them. So either it really just depends. Same for the wildcard spots, too. It's it's the same exact absolutely.
SPEAKER_04:And another game that I was that I really liked, which was a crazy game, but that Niners Panthers game. Yuck. Like it was better than the score indicated, but uh a lot of defense.
SPEAKER_05:Um I wasn't if I turned that off.
SPEAKER_04:I I did not uh just because like I was curious, because like with all the I think what Purdy threw three picks?
SPEAKER_05:Three that I saw.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, two of them to JC Horn. So I was kind of curious. I was like, I want to see the Panthers because I haven't had got a chance to watch the Panthers, um to see how they respond. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:Like, they got three turnovers, they didn't do anything. No, I was done.
SPEAKER_04:No, they got no points off of those turnovers.
SPEAKER_05:I was done.
SPEAKER_04:Um, but another thing that made this game interesting is I found out they you know Christian McCaffrey's uh one of the only players to lead the league in receptions and uh carries. And he's on pace to do it again. He's about to be the first player in NFL in receptions, catches. Yeah, he is really yes, wow. He's leading the league in receptions and carries. So he already did it once, he's about to do it again, and if he does it twice, he'll be the first player in NFL history to do it twice. Wow. Yeah, I yeah, I was sleep on that. That's crazy. Yeah, crazy stat. Crazy, crazy stat. So um, but let's move into this this upcoming week, see what we got going on. Um we're week 13, man. We could we this is about to be a lot of uh playoff. A lot of these games are gonna have playoff implications. So, and I think there's no more buys now. I think we yeah, yeah, no more buys. So everybody's playing every week now. Uh Thursday, so Thanksgiving, we get three games. We get the Packers Lions, which is gonna be a good game because they're both essentially seven and four with the Packers with one tie. You get Chiefs Cowboys, uh, which both teams need to win that game. Uh Bengals Ravens. Um, interesting with that is, of course, we get Joe Burrow back. Don't know if that matters too much if the defense isn't playing great, but Bengals Ravens is always a good watch.
SPEAKER_05:They actually didn't play bad on Sunday, but it's like I said, I've also said this before. It seems like we can never get both sides of the ball playing well. You know, either the offense is going crazy and the defense is trash, or defense is having a deep I their defense is never going crazy, but when a defense plays well enough for us to be able to win, offense can't do anything. So, bro, I I've got nothing. I don't I don't know. We could lose by 30, win by 30. I I I have no idea.
SPEAKER_04:No idea. I'm just gonna be watching everybody else. Like I said, I mean, like I said, Ravens and y'all and the Ravens is always a good game, like it's never disappointing. Uh, very seldom is it a blowout one way or another. So hopefully both teams are playing, play, play a good game. It's the night game. Uh then Friday on Black Friday, we get football. We get uh Bears and Eagles, which both teams are 8-3. Another good game with two good teams playing well. Um and then Sunday, uh Coast Texans, of course. Like I said, that's gonna be had playoff implications. Uh Rams, Panthers, only because Panthers need to win to stay on pace with Tampa Bay for the NFC South. I want to say Bill Steelers, but both of those teams have been playing garbage lately. And yeah. I mean, your Monday night game is Giants Patriots, which that's nothing to uh to get hype about. And Sunday night, my bad, you get Broncos Commanders, and that's again that could be a good game or a horrible game. So they really put all the good games on uh shoot on Thursday. Thursday and Friday. They they they knew what they was doing. So that man, that's that's that's all I got. We'll be defunding.
SPEAKER_05:Oh man, Cincinnati Sport. Bro, they're yeah, man. UC basketball lost to Louisville Friday night. I think the Niners have about week 14.
SPEAKER_04:Week 14.
SPEAKER_05:UC football lost to BYU Saturday night. Bengals lost to the Patriots Sunday early afternoon. And then FC Cincinnati lost to uh, I don't even know who they were playing. The Major League Soccer team. They lost in the playoffs uh Sunday night. So 0 for 4 over the weekend. I think like uh Xavier lost too, but I mean nobody cares about Xavier. Yeah, man. Cincinnati Sports gotta go. I almost wish like the teams could just like move somewhere else because they they're messing up the vibes, man. Messing up the vibes, bro.
SPEAKER_04:I stand corrected too. Ike just corrected me. Uh he is correct. They're correct. Uh we do have one more bye week. Patriots, Giants, Niners, and Panthers have a bye week. Uh the week 14. Just nobody has a bye week this week coming up because of the games on Thursday and Friday. So I stand corrected. That week week 15 is the last. Oh, I mean, week 14 is the last week for uh buys, and then the last three weeks, there's no buys. But that bye week, that bye week for the Panthers. I mean, for the Niners, week 14, that's a good buy. They could probably get some get some people healthy. Well, no, no, everybody just thought they just really hurt this impactful season. Never mind. Take that back. Um Patriot Giants and Panthers resting at the right time on week 14, but yeah, man.
SPEAKER_05:That's all I got, man. So no card of the week today, but I got a piece of memorabilia of the week. So I got this uh Atlanta Falcons football. This is uh signed by Michael Vick right there, and then it's inscribed uh human joystick human joystick, and then it has some of his stats here. Oh, his accolades, okay. So he actually wrote all that on the football, and it is certified by the fuck is my certification on here. Oh, JSA. Okay. I can really see it. Yeah, I see it. Yep. Yeah, so cool, man. Cool. That's my piece.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I just I just picked up a uh today. I just picked up a Robert Mathis.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, okay. Nice. Yeah, working on father.
SPEAKER_04:You uh you got just as much stuff as me now. I'm I'm I'm trying to get it together, man. I'm trying to get it together, but I got I got some other things in the works. I got a Barry Bonds uh sign picture coming. Okay. Supposed to pick that up Sunday. I got I'm still working on these two Dions, uh, but they they playing. Um who else I got in the works? T.Y. Hilton working on him. Uh I still we just need to figure out that JT thing, man. If that's if they're really doing a sign-in or whatnot. Uh yeah. Oh, I mean, it's it's happening.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, if you want to buy a jersey or it's just not a it's not a uh a public, so we ain't gonna be able to go. We just would have to send in something if you want to take. I'm still kind of on the fence about it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, send it to me. I'm a I'll order, I'm gonna order a JT jersey.
SPEAKER_05:When when when did you say it was? Uh I'd have to I'd have to get back to you. I think they need the stuff by like the first week of December, like the third or fifth or some shit.
SPEAKER_04:So there's still some time. Yeah, I'll probably just go down. I'll just probably go to the uh pro shop and just buy one so I can don't have to worry about waiting on shipping or Black Friday shipping and all that stuff. I can just go and get one and just have it um to send in when I need to. So because yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So here, I got it up right now. So JT send in 149, which I'm glad I found the actual source because people be waxing. Um yeah, we could talk about this off the okay.
SPEAKER_04:All right, well, this has been the Epic Podcast, man. We will see y'all next week, sir.