E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
Life is full of moments you cannot predict or control only experience and enjoy right? Come join Vernon, Isaac, Justin, and Jared every Wednesday where we lend our opinions about current event going on in sports. Every episode is promising to be entertaining, not necessarily informational.
E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
Why LeBron Doesn’t Need To “Fit In” And How College Football’s 12-Team Bracket Changes Everything
Two fans take on lazy narratives and messy standings. We defend LeBron’s on-court authority, map the shifting college football field, and sort NFL pretenders from contenders while celebrating a big step forward in the WNBA.
• LeBron’s return framed by chemistry myths
• Why great players enable teammates, not erase them
• Media bias, credibility, and how questions get rigged
• ACC and Group of Five bubble logic
• Big 12, Big Ten, and SEC title paths mapped
• 12-team playoff impact and why 16 beats 24
• AFC playoff odds and true contenders
• NFC’s tight races and pivotal matchups
• WNBA CBA progress on salaries and structure
• Card of the week: Ja’Marr Chase RPA
• Sportsmanship line: don’t spit, handle it right
1030, tune in. LeBron Ramon James Sr. is back. Let’s go.
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SPEAKER_03:Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to another episode of the Epic Podcast. Me and Jared in here tonight, man. How's your sports week been? Cool, man.
SPEAKER_05:Um Bingles is still a shit show. Um, just keep on winning. Uh, NBA, Lakers are doing well. Granted, I'm not a Lakers fan by any means, but that's who my favorite player plays for, so it's what it is. They're winning. No, no complaints. How about yours?
SPEAKER_03:Um, about the same. Coach was on the bye, so nothing to really uh talk about there. Um Pacers is hurt. Too hurt to even compete. Pacers is pacing, but it's the opposite direction, boy. Man, they just too hurt to compete. Uh yeah, so that um Bama lost this weekend, which is crazy. But I ain't really putting too much into it. I mean, it is what it is. Uh we win now, we still be in the playoffs, so uh, which we're gonna talk about that a little later too. Um, but yeah, man, that's really it. Um, that's really it. That's really, really it. But before we jumped on, man, we was talking about uh talking about this whole LeBron situation, uh, with him coming back tonight, man. So what do you what do you think about his return possibly tonight against the Jazz? And I mean, I won't say how does he fit in. I mean he's LeBron, but everybody's been saying, wondering how does he fit in because the team's been playing well without him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's LeBron. So you said you had some things to say about this, I want to hear.
SPEAKER_05:You know, I I'm I'm looking forward to watching him play first and foremost. One, because I'm a fan of LeBron. Two, because I'm a fan of basketball. I don't know how anybody can be a fan of basketball and not like LeBron, but that's neither here nor there. But this whole notion about him having to fit in or, you know, take a backseat, is it's it's it's silly, but it's it's more disrespectful. At this point, LeBron can do whatever it is that he wants to do. If he wants to come in and shoot 50 times a night, he's earned the right to do so. Never once in his life has he not produced. So what's the reasoning for having him take a backseat now just because you know Austin Reeves has taken a step after what is his year five, six for Austin Reeves? Yeah, five, I believe. And it's just like if you can't get your shit off with LeBron on the court, you suck. Like you're not good at basketball. So I don't know why everybody's trying to make it seem like him coming back is gonna dim other people's lights, and it's not. If there's any superstar ever in the history of the sport that's gonna allow you to get yours, it's LeBron. Kyrie has had his moments with LeBron. A D has had moments with LeBron. D D Wade has had a few, not very many, but he's had his moments with LeBron. Um Lucas had his every it everybody else, every everybody has their moments with LeBron. So it's just like all this notion that you know he should fall in line or he should take a backseat, is it's just is bullshit, really. And it's it's it kind of makes me mad. So it's just like I don't I don't understand it. Like I was having a conversation with my homeboy earlier, and he's actually a LeBron fan, but he's on this wave. Uh shout out, shout out, shout out to Adrian Harper, uh, I respectfully disagree podcast. Uh go shoot him a follow. Uh, but he's on this whole, you know, uh wave of LeBron needing to do this and do that. And it's like, what are we talking about? He's earned a right to do whatever the hell he wants to do on the basketball court. Like I said, if he wants to shoot 50, 60 times tonight, by all means. If he wants to shoot 40 times the rest of the season, by all means. You've earned that right. And it's not like, you know, he's ever been one to have empty stats. It's just, you know, I just don't get it. And I think it's just, it's just one of those things that that LeBron is being uh uh sought out for. I mean, nobody even said guys should take a fall back when they have taken steps back at close to 40 years old. LeBron hasn't slowed down, so why should he take a step back? For what? Well, nobody telling Dirk he needs to chill out when he was, you know, on his last leg. Nobody told Kobe that. You know, and then people just say, oh well, but they didn't get, you know, what LeBron's getting paid. They're not producing like LeBron. LeBron makes a wage for what he produces on a basketball court, arguably less. I was about to say, yeah. There are guys that get paid more than him that do the same or probably less. So I don't want to hear that stuff, man. It's it's it it it really just be just irking me because it's just like LeBron can't catch a break. We're talking about a guy who gets more negative hate for only having four, only having four championships than some guys get that don't have any at all. T Mac. People love Derrick Rose, people love Allen Iverson. Like, you don't hear crap about them guys, but you hear more negative about LeBron only having four than you hear about some guys, some of the greats having none. So, man, just uh yeah, just just like lose that, and I hope he comes back. I hope he shoots all the shots. Then what? What you gonna say? Not you, I'm just saying, you know. Nah, no, I hear you. So shoot the ball, LeBron.
SPEAKER_03:Welcome back. Yeah, yeah. I kinda I kind of feel the same way. Um because LeBron ain't like you said, he ain't never not produced. Uh every player he done ever played with, he he done figured it out. Now, granted, has he ever missed this much time before, like, or not started a season? No. Yeah, he's never not started a season. But to most of the time, he's the driving force behind his team's success. Malot. All the time.
SPEAKER_05:You know what I mean? I mean, he's been trying to give Anthony Davis the keys for since 2020. He's been trying to hand him the keys to the car since 2020, and he ain't taken them. And it's 2025. That's why they got rid of him. If they thought that Anthony Davis was capable of taking the keys and driving that that uh you know that franchise forward, they wouldn't traded him. But they saw what we've all saw. He ain't he he won't take it. So, you know, here we are again with a 41-year-old LeBron running the team. Shout out to Luca, though. This is no slight to Luca. I feel like Luca's he's that guy. But we're not about to, you know, well, LeBron gotta fit in with the culture or the chemistry.
SPEAKER_03:Man, I think, I mean, but but my thing is this, like I was saying, he's always been the driving force between the behind the success of his team. Always. So now for him to for probably the first time in his career to come in in a situation where he his team is being successful without him. Without him.
SPEAKER_05:So the first time that he weighed and Bosch was lottery without LeBron. Uh Kyrie and K Love can't can't get it done. Sorry. AD, no, sir. None of his teams have been like even 500 without him. This is the very first time in year, it took 23 seasons for a LeBron James team to be worth a damn without him. And let's not get too ahead of ourselves. I mean, they beat the Pelicans, they beat the the they beat the Timberwolves twice, but I mean they're not looking too, you know, they're not looking at all that. I think they might have beat the Portland Trailblazers once or twice. So like, let's not like act like they're just cutting it up. Like, you know, they haven't, they haven't, they got smoked by the um the by the thunder without their second base best player. And you're gonna tell me that the greatest player of all time, arguably, that's what I believe, and in my books, he's the greatest player of all time, needs to take a back seat to the to Austin Reeves. Stop it.
SPEAKER_03:Stop it. Nah, I think he comes in, and he's always been a flow player anyway. He's always played with the floor of the game. If it needs to be slowed down, he can slow down. If if y'all running, he be running. So I don't I don't think there's nothing that's gonna go on in the offense where LeBron's gonna fill out a place or like he probably only played 25 minutes anyway, maybe 30, just depending on how the game goes. It's the jazz. Um, I don't I don't think he needs, uh I don't see him playing 40, nothing like that. Like, I don't think he needs to be out there like that. Like he probably gonna get in, get his hot 20 and sit down. Um, so yeah, I don't think he needs to fit in. I mean, it's LeBron. He never needs to fit in. What are we talking about? I mean, because you look, I mean, even if you look at like Olympic teams and stuff like that, he never has to fit in. He's always just exactly.
SPEAKER_05:I said that earlier this week, too. Like, exactly. All-star games, Olympics, all that stuff.
SPEAKER_03:He's just him, he's always him.
SPEAKER_05:Stop it. Like, like LeBron's.
SPEAKER_03:His base his basketball knowledge and all he's done, like IQ is off the charts. You you never have to LeBron is one player in the NBA you would never have to worry about.
SPEAKER_05:Never. And then it's like people say he needs the ball. He's always had to have the ball. There's a difference. There's a difference between a ball hog and nigga, we can't do shit if you don't got the ball. That's literally been 95% of his career.
SPEAKER_03:But you also people forget that like when he was running point, they won a championship with him running point, averaging getting 10 assists a game, leading the league, getting assists.
SPEAKER_05:Like that was what he won a championship with 17, 16, 17, 18. Come on, man.
SPEAKER_03:What are we talking about? So it's like it's nothing he can't do. If he has to be the leading scorer on the team, he he could do that. If he has to lead the team in assist, he could do that. Like, defensively, we all know, you know what I mean? He don't want championships with defense. You know what I'm saying? So it's it's it's it's nothing he can't do. I don't think we need to worry. I I don't even know what people are worried about.
SPEAKER_05:Like guys acting like the Lakers' success is gonna come down to Austin Reeves.
SPEAKER_03:Man, come on, I don't know. I think it's preposterous that you would even quit be questioning LeBron at this point. And if he comes in, if he comes in and has a bad game, so what? Yeah, right, right. How many bad games has he had gone? He done had more he's had more good games than people have had in their bad games in their whole career, bruh. He done had more, he done had less bad games than people done had good games in their whole career.
SPEAKER_05:Man, you ain't lying, you ain't lying, but for some reason, everybody forgot that LeBron knows how to play basketball and he's gonna come in and ruin the chemistry. What chemistry? What are we talking about? What have they done? People are acting like they've back like back-to-back NBA champions, and he just coming out of nowhere. Like, stop. Even then, he's LeBron James. Like, what are we doing? But you know, I I don't know. I don't know. No, and it's like it's good, it's good to be able to have just discussion with somebody who understands, not necessarily because they degree, agree rather. You know, I'm not one that has to speak, I can speak with anybody. People that disagree, people agree, whatever the case is, I can have a discussion. But it's it's it's just good to speak to somebody who knows what's up because it's just like this isn't foreign, you know. And then people gotta stop with the oh well Shaq said, so we acting like Shaq don't just he ain't the biggest sensitive hating motherfucker ever. Come on, man. Like what are we like what are we doing? And it's like it's that's not even for LeBron that goes unilateral for everybody, just like Isaiah Thomas. I can't take anything Isaiah Thomas says face value when it comes to Jordan. He don't like him.
SPEAKER_03:So like I can't use uh But just because he doesn't like them don't make it not true.
SPEAKER_05:Nah, but if all you ever saying is negative stuff, you lose your credibility. I don't discuss, I don't well, nah, I do when I'm bored. If I got time, I will. But I don't really value people's opinions that absolutely hate a subject. Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm trying to think of a good example.
SPEAKER_03:Oh but it also depends on too, like the question that's asked to the person too about that set subject. Because sometimes, like, if if people know that you feel a way about a subject, they'll phrase the question in a way to make you express that dislike. Yeah, let me see, and that's and that's childish. That's petty to me. Like, just speaking of Isaiah Thomas, just because like I said, I I like Isaiah Thomas, but when they do speak, they tend to ask him about Jordan because they know how he feels about him. And they ask him about it.
SPEAKER_05:Anybody, anybody that has that much negative to say about Michael Jordan is fry. Like, I'm there's not enough. I can't, I can't, I I'm not entertaining that. Just like if somebody was just gonna go on an hour-long rant about stuff that Kobe didn't do on the basketball court, bro, save your win. Like, I'm not I'm not entertaining that conversation. It's this is baloney. So it's just like at this point for me, if I hear Isaiah Thomas say anything about Jordan, it's kind of like, eh, I'll just I'll just skip over that. Let me hear somebody neutral. For example, if somebody asks me, you know, how I felt about Michigan um winning that national championship of 2024, the team was fucking awesome. You know what I'm saying? What what am I supposed to say? I'm not one to say, oh, well, they suck because were they cheating? It looks like they might have been. I do we do we know 100%? I don't know. But what I saw from that team that season, football-wise, they beasted. I'm a Ohio State fan. I can say that. That's just how I maybe everybody don't feel the same way as me, but that's just how I approach life. I'm always gonna be neutral and speak neutral. I'm never gonna show any favoritism. So that's how I stand on anything that I have to say about LeBron because I'm not being biased. Just because I feel like the guy that I like is the best ever, it is what it is. Like, there's a lot of greats. Michael Jordan is great. Like, I don't have anything negative to say about Michael Jordan. Have some things to say about the competition back in his day, but would he do the same thing then that he's doing now? Yeah, probably would be an uptick. It probably would be, but you know, it is what it is. Like, I'm just a person that's gonna tell my honest opinion on the situation regardless of how I feel or where my allegiance lies. That's just how I live my life. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:No, and that's fair. That's fair, and and I'm kind of the same way. Like, I mean, I like what I like, I don't like what I don't like, and right, you know, my feelings towards it's gonna be my feelings towards it. And I'm not gonna let nobody change that either. Or I'm not gonna feel some type of way because you may not agree with what I agree with. You know, it's just our it's all our perspectives on, you know, you know, the games and right that we love, you know what I mean? Whether it's that's all subjective, and it's just that's it, you know what I mean? Um we could question it all day, we can have that dialogue and have questions all day, but you know, I'm not gonna be upset because somebody don't feel the same way I feel about something, it just is what it is, right?
SPEAKER_05:You know, so get to name calling and stuff. That's how you know you really get to name calling. They start to and it would when they one start to name call, and then two, they start to generalize. Oh, you're just saying that because that all that phrase drives me insane. I hate it, I hate it. I lose all my professionalism when somebody tries to generalize my like we didn't had a 30-minute conversation, and that's how you end it. Oh, you're just saying, okay, all right. That I'm I you lose me every single time with that. That drives me nuts. So if you ever want to get me off the rails, generalize my conversation, and after we didn't wasted time and effort formulating thoughts to have this deep dialogue, and you generalize my my conversation, I'm done. Yep, that that that'll do it every time for me. So you're just saying that because you like Ohio State. Okay. All right. I have nothing else for you. That's that's one way you can get me to shut up. I I'm done after that.
SPEAKER_03:So yep. All right. Well, we're gonna uh jump over to some college football, talk a little a little college football. Uh so I want to talk about like last team in, first team out type of deal. Um, just because they have not released, they probably in the midst of releasing the uh new rankings right now.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, I think that's that shit usually comes on at seven, don't it?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's yeah, but I don't, you know, they be dragging it out. Because I remember the last week they they drug it out, and I was trying to watch it while we were doing the show or right before we were doing the show, and they just drug it out. So they probably just got done with it, but um nonetheless, I'm gonna start with start with the the lower conferences and work our way, work our way up. So the group of five, um I was uh Navy would be in. Uh don't really have nobody out, but we got some teams that's still in the mix, so like James and Madison, North Texas, Tulane, um, based on strength of record, uh best strength of record. So things of that nature. So Navy, even though um they beat it, they I mean they just beat South Florida, so but I would give Navy denied in a group of five. Independent, I would say Notre Dame. Granted, they're the only one right now. Uh so moving up to the ACC. Uh I would probably say first team out Georgia Tech. Only because only because they're ACC Huh? Aren't they the best team in the ACC right now? Well, just hear me. They beat a they just beat a one and ten Boston College team by two points. Um and they probably only need one more win to get to the ACC title uh title game, so which they would have to win. But they will have to beat Georgia in this uh regular in this uh last season of the game. Uh last game of the season, my bad.
SPEAKER_05:Uh you gotta remember that I don't think that game factors into the ACC tournament.
SPEAKER_03:No, not to the ACC championship game. But I'm talking about as far as the tournament, that's why I would say they will be the first out.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know if they beat Georgia. Doesn't the ACC champion get a bit get a bid too?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but they would I mean it would be them in Miami. So one of them will have to be out. So that's why I'm saying if I had to choose, I would choose Georgia Tech would be the first team out.
SPEAKER_05:So who does Miami have left?
SPEAKER_03:That is a great question.
SPEAKER_05:Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is ranked 22. So so really so wait a minute. I don't think did Georgia Tech beat Miami? Have they played yet? I don't think they played. They haven't. No. So I think if if if Georgia Tech beats Pittsburgh, if Georgia Tech beats Pittsburgh, they're in it, they're in the they're in the championship. Because that Georgia game isn't gonna isn't gonna matter towards the ACC championship. Correct me if I'm wrong. I I couldn't be able to. But Miami would all would have to win out. Because I think they do the top two teams.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they play Georgia Tech and Pitt. And right now, my Virginia's uh Virginia's the number two team in ACC stand-ins right now, behind Georgia Tech. So yeah, Miami needs some help. They're gonna get the windows. Miami's only eight and two. Then the reason why Virginia's above them is only because Georgia's nine and two. Uh no, no, no. They're all one losses in the conference.
SPEAKER_05:I'm looking at the wrong uh Well, Miami has two conference losses. They have two conference losses, so yeah. So yeah, they're behind SMU, Pittsburgh, Virginia. They need all those teams to lose at least one, and then still they'll need to be.
SPEAKER_03:But I yeah, but they still need to win out.
SPEAKER_05:Because who does Virginia?
SPEAKER_03:Who does Virginia got left? They just got Virginia Tech. Okay. Miami's cooked. Yeah, they're they're they're cooked. They play Miami, that's their last game. Uh SMU, they got Louisville in California, which they may lose their Louisville game. Which will give them a second loss in the conference. Um back. And back. They only got like a s Miami only got like a seven percent chance to reach the championship game.
SPEAKER_05:So they would have to it means they have an even less chance of making the the 12. Because that's that's probably gonna be their only way in, especially if they lose if they don't if they don't win out. But I mean, it's crazy because it's still so much football. That's why I'm glad they expanded it to 12 teams, because I mean it just made for for better football. Because you remember like the last couple years of the four, you had guys like not playing in the ball games and just like at least it gives us more competitive football. No, absolutely if you opt out of a uh a postseason game when your team is in it in the playoffs, it shows more about you than I think anything. Like, you're a jerk. So I think we're gonna see less of that, which makes for excuse me, more quality football. So I I'm rolling with the 12.
SPEAKER_03:I agree, I agree. Uh I've liked that. I've I've been liking it. I've been I was a fan for it from the jump. I thought four was always too small. It's that's the only tournament or playoff. Yeah, the playoff in the any college sport, really, or any sport, period. It only had four teams.
SPEAKER_05:Every single level of every single sport known to many at least got six to had a playoff except for uh football bowl subdivision. It blew my mind. Even before this 14 playoff, you remember the BCS? Every single level, I mean, on down the little week, everybody has some sort of a playoff to determine a champion and not just some computer ranking system.
SPEAKER_03:So nah, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_05:I was rocking with the four, now I'm rock, I'm for sure rocking with the 12.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think they're kind of, and they got they're meeting on talking about expanding it to 24.
SPEAKER_05:That's too much. That's that makes too many. It's already too many games with the with the with the conference championship. Like I like I've been a component of take that out, take the conference championship out.
SPEAKER_03:Um but I think well, I think, and this is just if they expand it, then the conference championships to me mean more.
SPEAKER_05:That's too many, you gotta think about the get amount of games, though. If if you put more teams in it, that's more playoff games.
SPEAKER_03:But they'll probably just, but they'll probably just extend it. The uh they'll just I mean it'll all be bowl games because the top 24 play in bowl games anyway, for the most part. So those bowl games that they were playing anyway would just be those playoff games.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I I can't, I can't. That would add like what another possibly two more weeks to the season.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think nobody's angry about that.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, yeah, I think the teams would be. That's a that's a lot, that's a lot. I mean, you would almost be making the playoffs damn near half as long as your regular season. Because you'd have to win, what, five or six games to win a national championship after playing what 12? 24, 11, 12 games? That's that's a lot of football.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you have to win what, six?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that's I think that might be a bit much.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just I'm just passing a message on. Like, they've been meeting about it. Yeah, I guess they asked him, I don't know. Because you know, they're trying to uh the what you call it, uh the FB, uh the CB uh college football, like you know, they stepped down, so they're trying to figure out some shit, some things with their committee. Um so I guess that's one of the things that's a talking point. So I don't think I think 24 is a lot. But I mean, maybe if you want to go 16, I think that's where you max it out at.
SPEAKER_05:I would I would I I agree with 16. I would get rid of the college championships, I would get rid of the the conference championships. I would I would do 16 max, absolute max, and uh I would probably get rid of the automatic bids too. I would I would get but also with with with making a 16 team, then you would get rid of um first round buys too. Which I'm not I ain't really too I don't really care about that. So I mean that's not even really a a con. But my only thing is in football, like there's always first round buys. But if you think about it, if you got 16 teams, you can't you can't do that. You kind of gotta have if you got 16 teams, well you you kinda could.
SPEAKER_03:Well, uh that would be if you get four if you get four by then you make 12 play. That's six, then that's six on six, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Nah, you would have to have, but still six on six is not a full bracket, though, is it? Hmm. I'm trying to think.
SPEAKER_03:I'm trying to I'll I will have to see, I'll have to write it down. That might be something that we may have to come back to next next week and just kind of lay it out and say, or you could give you could give I know that you could give eight teams.
SPEAKER_05:Probably two bars.
SPEAKER_03:You could probably get two bars then.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, or of course give eight teams, like half the teams, the first eight teams get a bye. I don't know. It's it's I shouldn't.
SPEAKER_03:No, because then the second eight, oh would they make the second eight play each other, but then that would only be four teams coming out to play eight. Yeah, see, it wouldn't. I don't know how they would figure that out, but not you could still you probably still have to keep the four. There's there's guys that get there's guys that's eight on eight, yeah. Yeah, right. A lot of money. Yeah, because then you play eight on eight. Eight on eight, four winners come out to play the top four and then two one. Yeah, you could do it with sixteen, just still get a four buys.
SPEAKER_05:How how that works with twelve and sixteen have four buys. That's that's that's what's kind of eluding me. But you you you're right. I don't see how it doesn't work, but I'm trying to figure out like how works.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Nonetheless, uh moving on to the Big 12. Uh, first team out, BYU. Um, even you know, uh dominant win against TCU, but I mean behind with them being behind Texas Tech, which will be in uh based on that their head-to-head. Uh Utah still got a chance of reaching the Big 12 championship. Um they're giving Cincinnati a one, a two percent chance, but yeah, I think probably gonna be Texas Tech, probably gonna have that first round by. Um, and they got a 70% chance right now to uh clinch the Big 12. So but that can be higher if Cincinnati and Arizona State both lose. Uh so yeah. But the runner-up could get, you know what I mean, uh a chance. I guess I should say a chance, especially if you know if it's BYU and Texas Tech. So uh Big Ten. Of course, uh Indiana and and uh Ohio State and Oregon would all be in, but of course, Oregon would be the last team in. But the first out USC, uh they're they're done. Even though they only got the two losses is a total by 12 points to Illinois and Notre Dame. I still think they're they're they're done. But you still got Michigan in the mix. Uh, even though they barely beat Northwestern. Like, I think that's crazy. But of course they still play y'all, so and everybody else in the Big Ten is out.
SPEAKER_05:If they lose, if they lose that, they're done. But if they win that, they're very much live.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, if they beat y'all, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. You definitely gotta take a look. I really gotta look at the Big Ten's um rankings because I I'm I'm trying to see are we locked in for a uh the Big Ten championship yet? I don't know. Well, I figure, yeah, we we should be, but like I really don't even. Want to do that.
SPEAKER_03:But um conference. Of course, y'all in Indiana are uh undefeated in conference play. USC only got one conference loss, Oregon only got one conference loss, Michigan only got one conference.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, we ain't locked in for it.
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know who we would lose.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because if Michigan beat y'all, shoot, if Michigan beat y'all, they I don't know if you but see, this is what I'll be saying. They be doing dumb stuff. Michigan to beat y'all, and then they'll leave Michigan into the conference championship. Even though I know you'll be okay with that.
SPEAKER_05:I usually is we can't lose one game. Now that I'm looking at it, it's three. It's yeah, it's five teams still in the mix for the Big Ten Championship. We could literally go the whole regular season, including beating the number one team overall the first week of the season, go the whole and lose one game at the end and be out of the championship, which I I I can't say that I would be disappointed. I really can't. I wish it wouldn't have been to Michigan, but I don't want to play in a big team championship. I I really don't. It's just wild the way that that that that happens. I wish we could just like opt out. Like I want to beat Michigan and go undefeated and just opt out. Let whoever Oregon and play IU. Go for it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Go for it. Like have fun.
SPEAKER_03:Enjoy. Or if you or maybe it is. Maybe if you're eligible for the playoff, or if you're in the playoff, then you don't have to play conference championship. Let the next two teams play the conference championship.
SPEAKER_05:And I can even see if it was against a team that wasn't number two. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, if if you playing a team that might be on the verge or something. But I mean, like the the the uh the uh the SET will probably have a two loss, a two-conference loss team in it, maybe. I feel like it could. Well, yeah, I'm just like because you got the number number one against number two. Like, I mean, even if it was like number one against like the number eighth or tenth overall team in the country, cool. But number one, number two, clear cut, two best teams in the country. I don't want to play that game, and it it just it's too risky. Yeah, because you got in the SDC. Even if you win, you squeak out a win against a team that uh it's probably not even gonna fall. Like if we beat IU and it's somewhat of a close game, IU's not even they're not even gonna fall. So it's just like that's true, they're still gonna be right there. Uh probably gonna have to with them with the both teams being clear-cut favorites, you know, we're probably gonna have to run up to them again. It's just like I don't even know if I want to risk it. But unfortunately, it's not what I say is gonna happen. Uh, we're just gonna have to beat them twice.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Which is probably gonna make for better games. They probably both of the games are gonna be really good.
SPEAKER_04:I ain't mad at that.
SPEAKER_03:So, I mean, we've been watching these teams really play really, really good football all year. So I I wouldn't be mad to watch them play twice. Um because I just think you you know it's gonna be good games. Like I just think you feel that way. And both teams will be challenged, you feel like. Uh, because they have neither one of them's really been challenged, challenged all year. Indiana had like one close game, I think. But they've pretty much been running through the competition. So to see them two powerhouses go at it, I think it'd be it'd be good for college football.
SPEAKER_05:It's definitely gonna be good for for for uh you know fans with no interest in both teams. I wish I'd had no interest in it. I'd be like, oh yeah, play three games against each other, but having some interest in the game, some you know, I'm I'm invested in it, so it's just like, you know, how many times have we seen one team smoke a team in the regular season? And because I mean, technically speaking, and come out playoff and look crazy regular season, although it's you know, it's postseason, but it's still kind of regular season because it's not the playoffs. So how many times do you see a team smoke a team in the regular season and then play them again in the playoffs and get dusted? You know, I've seen that too many times. And I wouldn't say that I'm scared, I'm just like stupid, I'm being probably more strategic than I probably should be, but I mean it is that's what this is for, right? We come on here to talk about it. No, absolutely. I mean, you know, so you know it is what it is. I'm not just thinking losing sleep over it, but you know, it's it.
SPEAKER_03:It's a top you should. I mean, but you should be interested in a good game in your conference. I mean, that's just what it's about. That's a part of being a fan of a team. Like, yeah, like like I told you, like I be wishing on Georgia's downfall, you know what I mean? Like these teams when they ahead of Bama, or if I said Bama is playing, or no matter how bad Bama's playing, I'm ever getting the closest to them. Hey, I pray on their downfall.
SPEAKER_05:I remember when uh I remember when UC was uh winning and they were they they were going to the uh the playoff. Um, you know, obviously I'm a UC basketball diehard, but uh, you know. I kind of mess with the football too, you know, just because you know, just like I kind of messed with Ohio State basketball just because you know it is what it is. Um, but yeah, I was I was praying on their downfall bad. I couldn't stand UC because they were ahead of us. I I needed them to get out the way, and they never did. So now I I definitely get that for sure. But unless they're playing Ohio State, like go UC. Like I'm I'm a I'm a bear cat, but you know, my loyalty just lies with Ohio State football, and it's that's not gonna change.
SPEAKER_03:So that's fair. Um, and I'm not a fan of necessary Indiana football, uh, as far as college team. But I'm not against it either. Like I always want my state to do well in every sport. So um one way or another, I hope I hope they you know they win. Uh moving on to the SEC, we got let's just talk about the out teams. Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, all out. Uh still in the mix. Vanderbilt. Um Texas AM. And yeah, first team out, I would have to say. I would say Texas, just because they play Texas AM. Um, but the last team there would be Alabama, even though the lot, I mean, that loss to Oklahoma didn't like knock them out of the rankings, but I think they still got a chance. Um, they got like a 72% chance to be in the conference championship. So just because the other two lost teams in the SEC, I don't think is better than them. Or, you know, strength of schedule, things that you know how they look at it. Right. Because right now, you only right now in the conference play, they only got one loss in conference play. Ole Miss, Georgia both got one loss, and of course, Texas ASM is undefeated. So we've beat Georgia. Um, so it really will come down to us and Ole Miss, which they lost to Georgia, so you would probably give us denied over either one of them. Because if Ye lost to Georgia and we beat Georgia, then I don't see how you put them in over us in the conference championship. So um, but again, losing the conference championship, does that hurt us if we lose the Texas?
SPEAKER_05:It would definitely hurt. That's yeah, that's the flip side of what I'm dealing with.
SPEAKER_03:That keeps us at three losses.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah. Y'all be cooked if, yeah, see?
SPEAKER_03:Because then you look look at an Oklahoma team who has Missouri and LSU left, they're eight and two. Then you look at a Vanderbilt team that has Kentucky and Tennessee left, that's also eight and two. And if we lose in the conference championship, that would give us two conference uh conference losses. Like that would that would that would that would kill us. Because we all we got is East Illinois left in Auburn, which I'm not really worried about neither one of them. But yeah. So that conf us being in the conference championship could possibly hurt us. Um and Ole Miss just got Mississippi State left, which not really worried about that. And again, Georgia got Charlotte and Georgia Tech left. So anything that can help us is if Georgia loses to Georgia Tech. That's the only thing that can help us. Um, you know, where where if we lost the conference championship, it wouldn't be a problem. So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's looking dicey in this SEC, man. Yeah, it's tough, it's tough in them parts, man. So yeah, no, I feel I feel your pain as far as this conference championship, but I'm for it. Like let's get it. In order to be the best, you gotta beat the best. So that's very true. If we come up with a win on Texas AM, though. Oh, yeah, that'd be nice. Y'all lit. Ooh, we're gonna be sitting pretty with the conference championship, and we probably hold on though, but if y'all, if y'all play Texas AM, y'all might have to play them again. Yeah, which I'm fine. Like, I'm fine with that. My thing is I don't like us being on the bubble because last year went on. So I would rather guarantee yeah, I would rather guarantee us in by beating a team than to be to lose the conference championship and be kind of on that bubble of at 12 or some shit, or you know what I mean, 13 and they, you know, I'm in a situation where if we if we beat Rutgers Saturday, we're damn near 100% in.
SPEAKER_05:Even if we lose to Michigan and then some kind of way make the Big Ten championship and lose that, we're probably still good.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're cool, you're still good, yeah. Because two losses does nothing to y'all, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Especially two that would then be probably top ten, and then we lose to the number one, you know. Indiana, right?
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, so yeah, we But that's what I was that's what I was saying about even with y'all with two losses. Like, I don't see y'all getting, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because look who y'all lost to. But like you said, when it depends on when you lost.
SPEAKER_05:It definitely does. It it it it that definitely still matters. But I do remember that conversation too. But if it's those two teams, I I think I think we're good. Those those specific teams, I think we're good. But man, I think college football needs Ohio State to beat Michigan because Michigan fans are out of control, bro. They're just so intolerable. Like it's it's bad. So it's just like man. Okay, so these are the new rankings. Okay, we need to we need to shut them up because Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, they haven't updated that, but I think this is yeah, because they gotta, yeah. So right now, the updated uh college football rankings, you have Ohio State at 1, Indiana at 2, Texas AM at 3, you got Georgia at 4, Ole Miss at 5, Oregon at 6, Texas, well Texas Tech at 7, Oklahoma at 8, Notre Dame at 9, Bama at 10, BYU at 11, Vanderbilt at 12. So that's sort of top 12. Then you got Utah at 13, Miami at 14, Georgia Tech at 15, USC at 16, Texas at 17, Michigan at 18, uh, Virginia at 19, Tennessee 20, James Madison 21, North Texas 22, Missouri 23, Tulane 24, and Houston 25. So yeah. Um I don't think they got the I don't think they got the playoff predictor right now. Nah, they ain't got that yet. And they end up they haven't update the let me see. Did they nope, they didn't update the uh the brackets to play, like who will play who right now. Let me see. Oh, we well, they might nah they haven't, nope, because they still got Bitma at four. Yeah, nah. Because we wouldn't get a by now, as of now.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they're talking about it now. I think the reason why they did it this late is because they're doing it in the halftime of these uh these college games.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05:That makes sense. They've done that before.
SPEAKER_03:But no, this is uh I'm not mad at this. I mean, us at 10, cool. Um, like I said, our next two games, I've I've I'm pretty sure we can win out. Um they'll put us at 10 and 2. And let me see. Texas Tech has West Virginia left. So they probably gonna end with one loss. Oregon has Washington left, they're probably gonna end the season with one loss. Oh Miss, like you said, they got Mississippi State, they're probably gonna end the season with one loss. Georgia has Charlotte and Georgia Tech, which Georgia Tech ain't no pushover, so they could end the season with two losses, which I hope. Texas AM got uh Stamford and Texas, which that Texas game may be tougher uh than we may have thought, you know, earlier in the season. So if I can get them, then you know man, if we can get Texas Tech a loss, I mean Texas AM a loss, get Georgia a loss, you know, we could probably jump up, you know, maybe one or two spots. Maybe. Maybe definitely jump a Notre Dame team, because who they got left? USC. No, they ain't got USC. I already played USC. They got Syracuse and Stanford. They're gonna, yeah, they're probably gonna win out. Yeah, it's over. Yeah. So I'm just looking at these these two lost teams that we could be, that we're better than. Even though we lost to Oklahoma, I still think we're better than Oklahoma. Uh so, but you can't put, yeah, I think we probably can only jump probably Notre Dame. Uh and Georgia. If Georgia dropped down, I think Georgia would drop below us, so that could probably just push us up just based on merit. Um, that's probably the only team I see losing. I mean, everybody else got cake, Texas AM and Georgia. But even if Texas AM lose one game, I don't see them dropping. They probably keep them at third. Uh, like I said, we probably only got the potential to move up two spots, and that'll probably be above Notre Dame. And if Georgia lose, above Georgia. That's probably it. So that's all I care about. Being above Georgia and winning the conference championship. Because we oh, that's not an automatic buy, is it? That's not an automatic buy this year. Yeah, they changed that. So cool. Let's win the conference championship so we can say we won something. No matter how the playoffs go. So uh but yeah, man. Jump over to the grown man league. NFL. Uh not too much, man. Not too much. Uh I want to talk let's talk playoff chances uh based on conference. So you got to make the playoffs, win division, uh early bye, and then to make it to the Super Bowl. Uh right now, to make the playoffs, you got Denver, number one seed in AFC. We'll go by seeds. Number one AFC, 97% to make the playoffs, 77% chance to win their division, 30% chance to get a bye, and 17% chance to make it to the Super Bowl. New England, 97%, 97% chance to make the playoffs, 72% chance to win a division, 26% chance to get the bye, 10% chance to make the Super Bowl, Colts, 93%, uh, 77% to win the division, 27% to get a bye, and 20% chance. They have the highest percentage uh chance to make the playoffs in the AFC right now, out of the playoff teams. And then you got Buffalo also a 90% chance to make the playoffs, but everybody else is less than 65% chance to make the playoffs right now. So that's Jacksonville, Baltimore, uh Chargers, Chiefs, Pittsburgh, and those all the teams that have a 50% or better chance to make the playoffs. Everybody else is 26% chance or less. And that's Houston with 26. Everybody else is Bengals is two, Miami 1, Jets 1, everybody else. I don't know. They gave you out 2%. It all happened in Jacksonville.
SPEAKER_04:You said what?
SPEAKER_05:35 to 6? The Chargers? 35 to 6 in Jacksonville? Mm-hmm. I didn't I didn't even watch that game. I'm like, what? That's that typical, that's the every year Chargers fall.
SPEAKER_03:Bro, they did the same thing in the playoffs. Remember when they let them come back? They was up like what, 28 to 10? Something crazy. Like, they just I don't know, they just not a good matchup for the for the uh Jag uh for the Jaguars. But shoot, they still giving them an 18% chance to win the division. So Baltimore has a 60% chance to win their division.
SPEAKER_05:And shout out to my boy Alex, he's a Denver Broncos fan. But that is the wackest two-loss team I've ever seen this late in the season, ever in my life. Bro, like when you watch them play. Yeah, they just aren't good to me. Like, they just but they're winning.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not gonna say they're not good. Like, their execution is shaky, but they just gritty, they just find a way, like they just real gritty, just tough. They're just not exciting at all. There's nothing exciting about that team. But I don't knock it. I don't knock it. Um, yeah, I mean, even looking at Buffalo, and I just think that's only because they're in the week division. I I mean they're gonna make the playoffs, but giving them a 14% chance to win the Super Bowl is crazy. Like from what I've been seeing, no.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, shit. What's the who got the higher percentage to win the Super Bowl? Denver.
SPEAKER_03:Denver has a 17% chance. That's crazy too. I feel like. That's only a 3% chance between Denver and Buffalo.
SPEAKER_05:Who have what does the Chiefs have? I'm pretty sure they probably still have a 30-40% chance to win the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_03:No, they only have a 12% chance. Really? And that's not to win it, my bad. That's to make it to the Super Bowl. Oh, wow. Yeah. Interesting. They got a Chiefs got a 55% chance to make the playoffs, 9% chance to win their division, uh, no chance to win to get the bye, and 12% chance to make it to the Super Bowl. And I think it's only that high just because their chances to make it to the Super Bowl is higher than New England's. Which is mind-boggling right now, with the way New England's playing. They're probably to me the most complete team on both sides of the ball. Yeah, I'm glad they unleashed. Offense and defense. Like Trevion Henderson.
SPEAKER_05:That boy is going crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. The way they're playing, like, they're playing complete for and their special teams is pretty good too. But both sides of the ball is probably the most complete to me. Um I would say the coach is probably a close is a is is a second. And then anybody else you want to put after that. Um hopefully they don't come back after this bye and look crazy. Uh, NFC Plitcher. Uh, this is these numbers are wild. You got Philly. 99% chance to make the playoffs, 99% chance to win the division, 46% chance to get the early bye, and 24% chance to make it to the Super Bowl. They have the highest in the AFC. The Rams, 97% chance to make the playoffs, 62% chance to win the division, uh, 29% chance to get the bye, and 22% chance to make it to the Super Bowl. Niners, 90% chance to make the playoffs. Seahawks, 87% chance to make the playoffs. Tampa Bay, 86% chance to make the playoffs and win their division 84%. Uh Green Bay, 76% chance to make the playoffs, 44% chance to win the division, and Detroit, 71% chance to make the playoffs, 34% chance to win their division. And then you got the Bears a 58% chance to make the playoffs, but everybody else is less than 22% chance to make the playoffs. And 1% chance to do anything else. Uh, this this NFC is super competitive right now. Like, you got as far as uh making to the Super Bowl, you got the closest percentages between, like I said, Philly and the Rams both at a 2% chance difference. You got the Niners and the Seahawks with the same percent chance and Green Bay the same percent chance to make it to the Super Bowl. Like uh it's real close in the NFC right now. Um I don't know. Like the Niners with with their injuries, like for them to be at 90% right now and third in the NFC, like Matt Jones probably can get, I don't know. Did he get him comeback player of the year? Would that nah?
SPEAKER_05:Because he's getting ready to get ready to be back on the bench. If he played the whole season, he did.
SPEAKER_03:He didn't play. I think uh Purdy started last week.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I remember I thought that was this next week, but yeah. Yeah, I didn't, I yeah, that's right. I didn't watch any of their their game this past weekend, so yeah. Nah, I think you have to play a full season in order to get comeback player of the year. But I mean I don't got all the answers.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, Joe Flacco didn't, did he?
SPEAKER_05:What year? When he played with the Browns that year?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't think he played the whole season. I thought that was a thought that was a whole season because he was damn near playing in the playoffs. Yeah, but he came in towards the end of the season and got him to the playoffs. And I think he didn't he win a playoff game or something like that. It was crazy. I don't think he played that whole season though. I can hear your keyboard typing, so I'm sure you're looking it up. Yeah, I'm taking it a look.
SPEAKER_05:I'm just I could be wrong, but I don't think he won comeback player of the year? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because maybe we was all in just relief he won comeback player of the year, and then the Browns didn't bring him back. He played their year with the Colts. He played last year with us.
SPEAKER_04:Let's see. Yep, 2023. I don't think he played the whole season. 2023. Yeah, you're right. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03:How many games did he play?
SPEAKER_05:He played five, they went four and one, and then he played the playoff game and went uh they lost. They didn't win. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So Mike Jones might can be in the runnings.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. That that sounds crazy to me.
SPEAKER_05:But who I like who else do you I mean uh comeback player of the season. Then somebody made a good point. I don't I don't remember who I was listening to. Somebody said comeback player, it could have been Cam Newton. Said comeback player of the player of the year shouldn't be for guys that didn't get injured, they just sucked. Um it could, I don't want to put out Cam Newton if he didn't say that, but I just know that's one of the guys I listened to. Because I don't listen to a whole lot of guys. Like, I don't listen to nobody on ESPN, I don't listen to anybody on Fox. I listen to like a couple podcasters here and there. Like I do listen to um Cam Newton. I used to live listen to the pivot a lot, but they got kind of silly too. Um yeah, I don't listen to too many people, honestly. Like I I I take my own facts, we talk, and yeah, I just gathered.
SPEAKER_03:I watch I watch more of the games and see what happened on the field than and just draw my own opinions from things. Yeah, for sure. I don't like other people like like formulating things in my mind. Like exactly now. If there's a situation going on, I may go listen or watch and see what other people are saying about that situation if it's something like kind of unique or whatnot. But as far as my opinion on like players and how they play and like none of that, nah, I do that on my own. Just like when people's hyping up the coats and all that stuff, like, nah, bro, I'm still mine.
SPEAKER_05:You was like, nine, let's just let's keep it going. Let's see. Let's see what we do against XYZ. Yeah, you you definitely said that for sure.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, nah, man, this is a definitely a lot of competition with three teams with a 90% chance to well, really, if you really don't look at it, it's really five teams with a 90% chance to make the playoffs. Um, yeah, I don't know. I I just thinking about these teams, these these are some really good teams. I think it's more competition in NFC this year than in the AFC. Um, I mean, outside of maybe the Bears, you look at Detroit, they're they're good. I mean, Green Bay, depending on what offense shows up, you know what I mean? They're really good. Tampa Bay, really good. Seattle's playing crazy. San Francisco, even with their injuries, is just playing really good. And you got to think, you got three teams from the same division with the Seahawks, the Niners, and the Rams, all uh, you know, top five teams right now. And then even the bottom three, you got Green Bay, Detroit, and Chicago. Like, that's all NFC North and NFC West. And then you just throw in the the two other conferences, the South of Tampa Bay and the East and Philly, like that's it. Like, that's crazy to have really three teams from two divisions uh in the playoffs, like in the NFC. So it's kind of top heavy. You look at you look at the AFC picture, it's kind of all over the place. Uh yeah, it's really all over the place. You get two from the south, two from the east, uh, and two from the west, and maybe one, maybe two from the north, maybe, if Pittsburgh get their act together. But to have three, three, one and one, like, mm-hmm. That's that's crazy. So uh let's check out some of the games coming up this week before we uh get out of here. Out of her. Uh, cuz yeah, let's see, let's see, let's see. Week 12. What we got uh Thursday night, we got Bills and Texans, which is probably gonna be a better game than we thought. Oh, that's if CJ Stroud plays. I know they got him in protocol right now. Um, so tomorrow we'll really determine if he plays or not. If he practices tomorrow, then chances are he'll play. Or no, that probably today then, because that's Thursday game. Everything's pushed back one day. Ugh, we'll see. Um, but that may be a decent game. Uh let's see, we got Coach Chiefs this week. So this is like I said, this is one of those games where I want to see what the Colts do. Definitely Chiefs just came off of a tough loss. You know they're gonna be ready, locked in, down in, but the Coach is also one of the teams that the Chiefs haven't beat haven't beaten. As a matter of fact, that's the only team the Chiefs haven't beaten in the Mahomes era, which I don't know how that's happened. Uh, but the wins we've been able to pull off over the past couple seasons has been the Chiefs. Uh so that's gonna be a really good game. Um, and it's an arrowhead. So, like I said, just gonna be a real good test for the Colts. You're on the road, you're against a really good team, you know what I mean? A motivated team coming off a loss. Perfect storm for me to kind of really gauge and see what the coats are. Um You get Steelers, Bears. They Steelers 6-4 against 73 Bears. Um, that's kind of gonna be the deciding game for the Steelers, too, to see which way their season probably gonna end up. Um, the Bears probably need that win to keep competing to try to see if they can win that uh NFC North. Um yeah, I play the Patriots. Yeah, probably. Probably. Um, good games. I mean, if you want to say Eagles Cowboys, but the Cowboys, I mean, they they did just get a bunch of guys back off of injury on defense, so maybe they play better. Uh one too big on the game the other night. I mean, they're playing against you know, not a not good um, a not good Raider team. So I'm not gonna give them kudos for that. I mean, I would say a win is a win, which we don't really like saying around here, but not with that at all. But you know, let's see how they play against the Eagles and see if these guys coming back from injury really. Help them. Buccaneers and Rams, Sunday night. Gonna be an awesome game. Definitely gonna tune into that. And even Monday night, Panthers and Niners. I mean, Panthers six and five. Um, Niners seven and four. That could be a pivotal game with them too. So with the Panthers to see if they want to uh maybe squeeze into that bottom uh that bottom playoff spot. Uh teams on the bye this week. You got the Broncos, Dolphins, Chargers, and Commanders all on the bye this week. So all right, man. That's all I got, man. Uh any what we defunding.
SPEAKER_05:Man, we're actually defunding the theory that LeBron needs to um take a backseat to these clowns playing on the Lakers. So, like, let's get rid of that. 1030, tune in. LeBron Ramon James Sr. is back. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm definitely gonna watch. Um card of the week, man.
SPEAKER_05:Uh, you know what, man? Hold on a second. Let me let me let me grab some. I ain't have nothing prepared. Give me one second here. Take this out.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, while we're talking, we just got a breaking news in WNBA. Uh, we have been talking about the CBA talks. Uh-huh. Uh, WNBA proposes max player salary over 1.1 million uh available to more than one player per team growing each year. Uh WNBA officials update the board with the latest proposal meeting this week. New league win minimum would be more than 222,000 with an average of more than six 460,000. Those numbers will start off first year of the deal on the more 180 players and were will increase over the length of the CBA. So it looked like they're making some strides in the right direction.
SPEAKER_05:I should hope uh it gets approved.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but see what I think though, uh but I think that's what the the players wanted. I think they wanted the salaries to increase, you know, a higher base, but the salaries to increase year over year based on the growth of the league. And that sounds kind of like what I hear uh is gonna happen because it says that it's gonna grow, uh growing each year. So it's gonna start off at 1.1 million and grow year over year. That's what's up, and it looked like you'll be able to offer that to more than one player on the team. So cool, man.
SPEAKER_05:A million-dollar contract for a lady, that's what's up. That's hot though. That's hard. That's hard. I ain't gonna.
SPEAKER_03:Now the question is to see who's gonna be the first million-dollar WNBA player. Like Asia Wilson. I guess we probably have to look at whose contracts is contracts is coming up next.
SPEAKER_05:But card of the day, this is probably one of my favorite cards. This is a uh Jamar Chase uh RPA, stands for Patch Auto. Um, unfortunately, the patches aren't like game one or anything, but um, that is an on-card auto. This is numbered out of 25. So yeah, this is probably a card that you know I'll have in my possession in my family probably forever. The fun spitting on people, like, why are we spitting on people?
SPEAKER_03:Like, where that's speaking of Jamar Chase, man, we didn't even touch on that. Yeah, like stop spitting on people.
SPEAKER_05:Although Ramsey's a fucking asshole. But stop spitting on people.
SPEAKER_03:Regardless, y'all playing football. There's a bunch of assholes on the field, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:And I mean shit. I probably want to spit on something too, but I I probably just I think the more manly thing to do is just to hit somebody if you got that kind of issue with them. Yeah, I'd personally rather be hit than spit on, but that's just me. Absolutely, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:If we're gonna fight, fight, hit me, and we can fight.
SPEAKER_05:Fight, right?
SPEAKER_03:But if you spit on me, we're we're gonna fight also.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, like it's just a sucker way of kind of initiating it, but yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:If you're gonna if we're gonna fight, then just hit me and we can fight on somebody after ass type shit.
SPEAKER_05:But I I wouldn't I'm I wouldn't do that. I was just saying like a thought process. Like, if you just beat somebody's ass and they just you just own them uh, you know, yeah, but nah, it's never an appropriate time to spit on somebody. Unless we'll talk about that after the show. Pause, nothing like that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh man, no in the show. Okay, all right, all right. This has been the epic podcast, but we will see y'all next week. Yes, sir.