E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
We unpack the WNBA CBA standoff, rank NBA trios by two-way impact, and try to make sense of college and NFL power shifts
A championship glow collides with a contract clock as we unpack the WNBA’s CBA fight, then pivot into NBA trios, college rankings logic, and an NFL that’s as open as it’s ever been. We end with a defiant love letter to boxing’s potential—and a plea to fix it.
• why the WNBA CBA is outdated for a post-2019 league
• revenue sharing, salary caps, and supermax realities
• the case for OKC’s two-way trio and Denver’s proven core
• Dallas on paper vs health and defense
• college rankings, quality losses, and brand gravity
• NFL parity, Baker’s bounceback, and goal-line play-calling
• offensive line problems and run-game efficiency
• schedule quirks, late kickoffs, and streaming fatigue
• Tyrese Haliburton’s trolling vs team pettiness
• boxing’s too many belts, too few fights, and fan burnout
• World Cup ticket shock and the price of access
Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to another episode of the Epic Podcast. We're in the house today, man. Last week we had to take the week off as my birthday week. It's chaos week. Uh, so we weren't here, but we back, man. Me, Ike, Jared in the house, man. How was y'all? I I don't want to say week, but I guess past two weeks in sports. Start with you, Ike.
SPEAKER_04:Uh me to pay attention to. No. I mean, my Niners lost last week, but you know. Uh lost to a formidable team. I kind of figured that'd be a tough game, especially with all the injuries, but um, both teams have injuries, so there's no excuse there. Um I had a big win the week before against the Rams, so I didn't, you know. I used moving each other along. So, you know, I don't I don't jump too much into college, but you know, I did watch the uh Oregon game.
SPEAKER_03:Definitely gotta talk about that.
SPEAKER_04:Good times, good stuff. So I mean all in all, I got no complaints. Uh fancy football teams are also doing the thing. So right, well, look, I I got nothing to complain about.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, fair, fair, fair. What about you, Jerry, man? Past couple weeks.
SPEAKER_05:Ohio State still rolling. Um, Bingo's still falling.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Um, no, watching some preseason basketball. Y'all know I'm ABA junkie. So I'm I'm watching two preseason games right now. Um fair. So yeah, man, just chilling out. Ain't nothing, nothing, nothing too crazy going on. How about for you, Doug?
SPEAKER_03:Uh shoot, man. Probably about the same, man. Bema, Bema has been doing their thing. Uh, so I can't really complain there. We haven't been beating the teams that we needed to beat to stay in contention, unlike last year. Uh, whooped on Vandy, had to do that. We get Tennessee this week, so we need to win that one too, because they're 11 right now. So to stay in that top 10 spot. Um, Colts been, I mean, we lost to the Rams, which probably shouldn't have on some BS two weeks ago, but did turn around and uh beat on the uh Cardinals, so which was a tougher game though, which I knew was gonna be tough, but I knew I like in the fourth quarter, I was like, if we don't score right here, like we're probably gonna lose this game. Um but yeah, man, we figured it out. Uh yeah, well, I think we get we get this week. We play. I have no idea. I can't even remember. Um but nonetheless, man, we we we five and one right now, so I'll take it. Like I said, I'm slowly surely moving to the Daniel Jones uh belief side, you know. But like I said, I I'd have been through too much to to dive all in on him, or the coach for that matter. It's just like I just gotta be patient. I just want to be patient and not get too high.
SPEAKER_05:Man, Indiana didn't turn into damn near the best goddamn sports state ever.
SPEAKER_03:God damn. Fever went went to the Eastern Conference Finals. Uh like I said, IU's doing their thing. Purdue is starting off the season in college basketball at number one. Really? Uh yeah. Wow, I didn't know that. Coats are uh 5-1.
SPEAKER_05:Pacers championship.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, just came from the Eastern. I mean, just from the finals, and then I mean, been playing decent in the preseason, but you know, hopefully some of these young guys step up with Tyrese being out all year. So uh we could still, even in the east, still make a push. Uh because I was just looking, still no Paul George and in with the Sixers. I mean, no Tatum right now. Uh it's a lot of guys out uh hurt. So in the East that you know may give us opportunity to still compete. So I still believe in that um for now. So yeah, nah, man, I'm good. Good good out here in Indy, man. Uh let's dive into it, man. We're gonna start with uh giving a congratulation to the ACEs for winning the championship, man. That happened while we was uh while we were gone. Um, but now they got uh CBA negotiations which expire soon. It's not looking pretty. Yeah, October 31st uh is the expiration date, is when the current CBA expires. Um and they're actually trying to get something done before then. Uh anybody been keeping up with that?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen. I mean, you you see the smoke between like uh feature collier and you know, she's probably one of the I actually I think she's the vice president of the basketball, the player association. And for her and and the to have those kind of words against the uh commissioner, and yeah, it is definitely not looking promising. Like, if I had to bet, I would bet that there's no uh WMBA next year. And it's like and it's really crazy because the women won't really hurt too much because they still got unrivaled. Um, some of them can hop overseas if they want to. A lot of them have endorsement deals now.
SPEAKER_03:Um, for sure.
SPEAKER_05:But yeah, I can definitely see the WNBA not not, you know, something dramatic's gonna have to happen. I feel like, you know, the uh the commissioner might have to like step down or something like that. But to see that kind of conflict or for lack of a better word, between, you know, the vice president and now don't quote me on. I think she's the vice president of the uh players association. I want to say she is, but um to see that conflict.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it hasn't shown me. What I've been reading, they've been talking about the president, which is uh Nika Agat Agami? Agap-I I can't say her last name. I don't want to butcher it, but Nika. So uh but yeah, it seems like they figured out the player money portion of it, but the rest of the CBA is kind of how it was. So this CBA happened before COVID, like right before COVID in 2019. So the stipulations of it is old and they don't really apply to what the brand of basketball is now and the popularity. Um so basically the WNBA wants to move forward with it like that. Yeah, we'll raise the player salaries, but we want to keep what we had in place. And the players is like, nah, because it doesn't give them um profit sharing. So uh the salary caps and things don't go up year over year based on uh popularity, revenue, TV rights, they don't get any of that. So what's that's what the players are fighting for now? It's like, hey, like, yeah, y'all raised the salaries up a little bit, but why don't we just why don't you just use the money that we're making in the league to help boost the salary cap year over year? So just like in how the NBA and you know players' contracts go up, and if all those things, why don't you use that to create a salary cap and you know allow us to make more money over time instead of keeping it at flat rates um over a period of times like a supermax, I think it just is like$250,000. That's what the new one would be, but um of course there would be it could be more if because they just did like a three billion dollar contract right now, uh as far as like TV rights with, and I just read all this tonight with Amazon Prime, uh Disney, and uh NBC Universal. So like you just got three billion in TV deals, and the prices of teams are going up so much as far as expansion teams and things of that nature. You got uh teams that was bought for like 4 million worth 350 million, like New York Liberty. They was purchased for 2 million and now they valued at 310.
SPEAKER_05:Uh 310 million?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, the aces were purchased for 2 million, and now they're worth 310. The Liberty is worth 10 million, they're worth around 450 million now. Like I didn't know those teams was worth that much.
SPEAKER_05:And also before we move on, Nafisha Collier is one of the vice presidents. Okay. I looked it up from the WMWMBPA.com. Her, Alicia Carp, uh, Brianna Stewart are vice presidents, uh Nika Agumake is the president, Kelsey Plum's first vice president. Okay, I just want to get that out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so they're saying that like uh estimate a supermax salary around 850,000, my bad, with the veteran minimum at 300,000, which I don't think that's bad. But again, it's like in the future, if they do this deal, they won't it won't never increase. They can never uh gain more money with the popularity of the league, which of course, over the past five years, uh since COVID, it uh skyrocketed. Uh just with all these girls, uh female stars coming into the league and just making it more exciting um with branding and everything else. So uh yeah, they got to October 31st on that, man. So we'll see come Halloween uh how things go.
SPEAKER_05:It's not looking good.
SPEAKER_03:It is not. Um moving over to the men's league. Not too much going on in the men's league right now. Uh, but I did want to talk about just going into the season, the different uh, I don't want to say, I guess you could say trios, but like some of the top tier um, I guess you could say trios in the league. So right now, I believe they got them ranked as like SGA Homegrum and Williams as number one. Uh Denver's Gordon, Jokic, and Murray at two, uh Cleveland's Mitchell, Garland, and Mobley, and then New York's uh uh Ananobi, Brunson, and Kat right now. And then they got some young guys uh making up the bottom 10. Uh Atlanta with Dyson, uh Jalen Johnson, of course Trey Young, but and Porzingis could be second, but with injuries and stuff. They just kind of the guys that may start the season. Uh Detroit K cutting him, Rye Highland, uh Thompson, the Rockets, uh just their young guys, not including KD, but um Shepard, Seagun, and uh Thompson. Uh so with that, I mean, I mean, then they got like some of the older guys, like you know, with the Anthony Davis, Cooper Flags, Kyle Reeves, the Jimmy Butler, Stephs, uh Draymond Greens, of course, LeBron, uh, Luca, and uh Austin Reeves with James Hart and Kawhi, Zubak. So out of those guys, like some of those trios, who do y'all think uh got some of the best chances going into the season? Barring injury, I should say.
SPEAKER_05:And I hate this. I hate not hate, hate is a strong word. But this question is always so difficult because it's just like I really don't even know like who to pick. Um I mean, it's just it's just too early to tell.
SPEAKER_03:And it's like I know you said bar and injury, but but I just think your opinion, like just going into the season, not necessarily, I mean, you could we can't predict the future, of course, but just you know, based even based on last year. I mean, you know, guys, you know, based on guys that I guess wasn't injured.
SPEAKER_05:Right. I man, this is gonna sound crazy, but I actually like the Warriors, which is wild. Yeah. I I like the Warriors. Um, I feel like, you know, I I just feel like they still just got the right pieces. Um, but I mean there's a lot of new ones. I can't wait to see what Houston does. Um, I mean, there's just a lot of there's a lot of good teams. There's not too many that stand out like above the rest, but I mean you got I can't wait to see Minnesota. I actually can't wait to see Dallas.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, Minnesota with uh I kind of skipped over them with Edwards McDaniels and Julius Randle.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Um, I feel like, damn, that's they trio.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that actually sounds like I don't know if I would have said it's a trio. I guess they just throw a third name in there.
SPEAKER_03:I guess the best I best I mean the best three players on the team, I guess.
SPEAKER_05:I mean the best players on that team for real.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, who else would you put in there?
SPEAKER_05:No, no, I mean you're right, but it's kind of hard to like they that sounds kind of weak. Wow. I mean, um, yeah, I don't know about that. I mean, I know they do got a nice team top to bottom, though. I mean, they got some young guys.
SPEAKER_03:Um I mean, even if you put Gobert in there, I mean Yeah, no, I'm nothing on him, too. Yeah, nah. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, like, I mean, I'm just thinking about like who it could be. I mean, if you look like Orlando, uh Petrico Bay, Wagner. I do like them.
SPEAKER_05:Fox Harper. I really don't uh I feel like healthy Dallas will have the best like trio. I mean, if you take uh Anthony Davis, Cooper Flag, and Kyrie. Yeah, I almost have the best. I feel like they have one of the best teams on paper, though, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we were talking about that uh the other week. I believe that too.
SPEAKER_05:On paper, I feel like they got the best, the best team. Well, yeah, I like I mean, I like the Warriors, man.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, what about you, Mike, man?
SPEAKER_04:Looking at what you got here. I mean if I if I have to choose, uh I would probably still get if I'm not choosing Dallas because injuries is probably the biggest thing that would keep me from choosing Dallas. Uh I would probably go OKC. I mean, all three of those players are can be considered two-way players. Uh so meaning if the three best players on your team can give you offense and defense, it's hard for me to say that there's a a better trio because they're that's assistant counter. It does both aspect of the game. Um but I mean I'm yeah, man. Somebody is one out of I don't know what I'll consider trio, so just don't want a third name in there to have a third name in there. Um if I'm if I have to choose based off what I'm saying. I mean, I think to me, OKC is probably one of the more well-rounded. I mean, you got also two guards, you got a uh vehicle and kind of help on the the help side. He can play a little bit of the perimeter if he needs to switch out. So I guess I'm looking at this in the mind frame of like if we do all these cats out in uh a three on three, like who would probably have difficulty guarding? Like OKC would probably be the hardest one to guard from those three names.
SPEAKER_03:It's kind of how I to Yeah, I would probably say if it was me, I'd probably say San Antonio. I like Fox, Harper, and Wimby. Yeah. I mean, I ain't mad at that. And then, I mean, and then you still got I mean, the rookie of the year, Castle coming off the bench, too. So I mean, just saying.
SPEAKER_06:Wait, he ain't starting?
SPEAKER_03:Um uh he might be. He might be now. Uh because they have made some moves. But I mean, if you want to just throw another name in there just to, you know, sweeten the deal, I would definitely throw Castle in there also. That would probably be my three. That San Antonio team should be, like I said, bar and injury just really be tough, man. You get a full year with with Fox. Uh, like I said, you got the young guys, Harper, Wimby, Castle, like they're gonna be uh Murray back.
SPEAKER_05:Uh I don't think Denver. Denver tough too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Denver tough too. I mean, it's always gonna be hard to pick against Yoke. And I mean, the way Gordon played in the playoffs last year. You get that kind of Gordon. Like it.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, because if you look at Denver, if you're looking at Jokic, Aaron Gordon, and Murray, I mean, shoot, shoot. That's a tough out anyway.
SPEAKER_05:The way Indiana's luck is going, Ben Mathrin, Furfee, and uh McDonald. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're gonna be the best trio in the league, man. Indiana's honesty. You can't forget Nimhar, you can't forget Siakam. Oh, yeah, forgot about Siakam, yeah. But I mean, I was trying to be funny with the Furfee. But you know, but hey.
SPEAKER_04:Hey, no, but Furfe got balanced, bro. Man, don't you know look, and where I'm from, you get bagged on by a white dude like that, they they take me out of the game. I ain't gonna lie to you. But in the realm, and he can't I ain't standing in that realm if I see that man coming. I swipe at the ball, and I'm look, I couldn't get a coach. My bad.
SPEAKER_05:The matter ain't gonna mess around and get an all-star nod this year, man. Because he got go. If if uh if um uh what's y'all coach's name?
SPEAKER_03:Who the uh Pacers.
SPEAKER_05:Pacers. Uh I can't think of his name all of a sudden. Rick Carlisle. Rick Carlisle. If he lets Bill Matherin just go, hey, he he could get 25, 27 points a game. You see, he had what 27 in the first half last night? That dude can go, so that's it. Pick your trio out of the pacers. The way things have been going, they're gonna be the best.
SPEAKER_03:Got our man Justin up in here. What's good, brother? All right, hey, uh so I legit can't see it.
SPEAKER_04:Like, he's gonna go back to the colour. You're like a coat's head. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Like, yeah, your background is kind of kind of fading you out. Yeah, that light to your to your left is is it's just killing your face right now.
SPEAKER_04:Oh must be a party going on in the biggest really need to see you. You ain't gotta worry about that.
SPEAKER_06:So no need to talk about it, right?
SPEAKER_03:All right, then all right, moving right along. Hey, we just talking about like some of the uh best NBA trios, uh well group of players. Um far as threes. Uh Jared was talking about he likes the Warriors this year, actually, with uh you know, Butler Curry, Draymond. Uh I think, yeah, no, I think Ike was going with uh with Denver talking about that being tough.
SPEAKER_04:I went OKC.
SPEAKER_03:OKC, my bad. OKC, yeah. Uh I was looking at San Antonio with Wimby, uh, Wimby Fox, Harper, and Castle, of course. Who who you looking at early on, man? Who you think? I don't know. I mean, Clippers, I mean, you still got Harden, Kawhi, Zuba, with Bradley Bill, and Paul Cameroon.
SPEAKER_02:Please don't ever bring up anything with James Harden and me. Come on, man.
SPEAKER_03:I would I would come on. I was just on a different team out there we had talked about.
SPEAKER_05:Like, third best guard of all time. Yeah, I'm not even gonna get into that.
SPEAKER_02:That's hilarious, though. We mentioned the temple. I like Orlando, though. I do like Orlando. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we did mention, yeah, we did mention Orlando, Pacheco Bain, uh, Wagner.
SPEAKER_02:Yep, yep, and Carroll. Yeah, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_03:I like that. That's a nice young group. I mean, and they've been battling every year in the East, I mean, for the past like three years, you know what I mean, in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_02:So I do see them eventually. Yeah, you hope they take a step. Yeah, so we'll see. We'll see. They pay Bane enough money, so therefore, the expectation is gonna be that they're gonna take some sort of step this year, I'll say it that way.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, yeah. Like I said, bar injury, like we said, hopefully, you know.
SPEAKER_04:I ain't gonna lie to you, man. You might give me K Cunningham a two ham sandwiches, bro. And I might take that as a third. He called too.
SPEAKER_02:True one in the next one with uh with K.
SPEAKER_03:You're talking about taking a step.
SPEAKER_02:And Durand.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, high I mean, like we said, Ron Highland, uh Thompson, uh you got Jaden Ivory, uh Duran. Like they even they, I mean, they made a push last year. I mean, so he was all he was all-star and all NBA first first team. Uh no, he won first team, I don't believe, but you know, he got all NBA last year, so just stay behind. Hey, hey, I don't get a lot of Detroit Pistons games here, but when I did see him play, I was like, where did this come from? Because it just seemed like he was just, you know, he was, you know, a first round pick, you know, top 10 pick, and then it was just like he was just in Detroit, like, and you just never heard nothing about him, and then it was just like boom, he just came out of nowhere and just he was on a bad team, and he was out of the battery. But like, you know, like sometimes you still hear about you know, good players on bad teams, sometimes just you know, doing their thing. But that's what I said, like you just didn't hear anything out of him, so uh just with the expectations of being a top pick. But yeah, nah, he he's definitely uh showing up and showing out last year.
SPEAKER_04:So nice, man. So two ham sandwiches can't come to him. Um I might I might take that.
SPEAKER_03:I'm with it, I'm with it. Talk a little college football, man. Uh updated rankings. So right now we still got Ohio State holding it down at one, Miami at two, IU at three, Texas AM at four, O Miss at five, Bama at six, Texas Tech at seven, Oregon at eight, Georgia at nine, LSU at ten, Tennessee at eleven, and uh Georgia Tech at twelve. Any uh discrepancies, guys?
SPEAKER_05:Nah, man, it's so much parody in college football now, man. Well, I mean, I guess that's a positive and a negative, because I mean I feel like you only got a couple powerhouses. I mean, I feel like IU and Ohio State have kind of separated from the packs. I'm not so I'm not sold on um Miami. Um I mean, those are the only, what I think they're only top undefeated teams left.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, because I mean also Miami, they don't really have nobody else on their schedule right now.
SPEAKER_05:Either Ohio State or IU don't either.
SPEAKER_03:Because you look, they beat Notre Dame when they were uh ranked sixth. Um, but they only won by three. They beat South Florida when they were ranked 18th, but they blew them out. That was 49 to 12. Uh beat on Florida, and then they just struggled with uh Florida State. They only won that by six.
SPEAKER_05:But then they got they lost like the last two or three, right?
SPEAKER_03:Right. Yeah, then you got Louisville, Stanford, SMU, Syracuse, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Pitt, which all could be tough games for them, but because most of those are all ACT teams for the most part. Yeah. Actually, all of them, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Except for except for Stanford.
SPEAKER_05:We got we'll know, Stanford too. Yeah. We Ohio States, Michigan left. But yeah, I yeah, IUs, they're done. It's a crash course between Ohio State and IU for the Big Ten Championship, which kind of I don't want, like, like I said last year, and it ended up working out for us. I don't even, I don't even want to do that. Like, I was talking to our boy uh Fitzpatrick the other night. I'm just like, bro, I don't even want the Big Ten championship. I don't want to go to it, I don't want to play in it, I don't want nothing to do with it. I just want the playoffs. Like, so but it's looking like that's inevitable. Only team we have, I mean, it's Michigan. Obviously, they'll probably be ranked by the time we play them, but that's gonna be a tough game regardless. But yeah, man, top three teams, as of now, no more ranked teams left in either way's in either team's path. So yeah, uh, we'll see. I can pretty I can see you know this one, two, three just staying out is for the remainder of the season.
SPEAKER_03:Um trying to trying to look at Michigan's schedule. See who they got. Because you said they might could be ranked. I don't know. Yeah, because what they got, two losses.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, two Oklahoma, which is a decent, decent loss, and they lost to uh they got Washington, Michigan State, Purdue, Northwestern, and Maryland left.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. I don't I don't see them get ranked off any of those.
SPEAKER_05:I feel like if they're 10 and 2, like if they get to 9-2, 10-2, they're gonna crack the top 25. So it's just that means they would have to beat y'all. They're just one of those teams that if they're 10-2, they're gonna be in the top 25. I mean, even if it's 25, they're gonna be in the top 25. They would have to dominate these next five teams. Like I don't think they've ever, ever in the history of rankings been 10 and 2 and not been ranked. If they if they win their next two or three games, they'll be back in the top 25 for sure. 100%. I mean, hopefully. We can bet on that. That's the 100%. They just they're just one of those teams.
SPEAKER_03:Like, yeah, because I'm even looking, I mean, remember, we were talking about Notre Dame, uh, with their two losses, they're back up to 13 now, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_05:Um, I mean, if I even if I had to call it, I'm about to pull up the rankings now so I can look at them. I'm pretty sure Michigan will probably beat maybe at least a third of the teams in the top 25 right now. So, like, and I think as they keep winning, the the like the committee will see that and be like, all right, yeah, they got two losses, but they're they're top 25 already. So, I mean, you've got to think about how many teams are in the top 25 with two losses already. They're gonna be one of those teams down the stretch for sure.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because I think Illinois and Michigan are the first two out at 26 and 27, I believe.
SPEAKER_05:Illinois will work their way back in it as well. So, I mean, their losses are uh shit. They lost to number one and number two teams in the nation.
SPEAKER_06:Yes.
SPEAKER_05:So, like, they keep winning, they'll be back in it.
SPEAKER_02:So But that's also what I was gonna say, where Vernon, you talking about Notre Dame making its way back up. Well, they lost to the number two and four team in the country, so those aren't bad losses considering it's a total of four points in their losses. So I they rightfully should be still ranked pretty high. I mean, considering they didn't get blown up. But I feel any of that.
SPEAKER_03:So No, I agree. I I I see that. I'm just saying working their way up because we're just talking about those teams that just hardly ever fall out of the top 25. Like it takes a lot for them to get out of the top 25. Uh we were.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if that's the case for Notre Dame. I just think it's because of the quality of losses, if that makes any sense in terms of why it's not held against them as much this year. I mean, because right now with Texas AM and Miami being where they are, I just think people are looking back and saying they just lost to two of the top five teams in the country. So they're not, it's not, you know, I think it's a different conversation if Miami and Texas AM are, you know, 20 or not even ranked, something like that. I think they look at those losses a little different, but they're top five. So I think, you know, they they get benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's Notre Dame as well.
SPEAKER_05:And I think there aren't many uh two-loss teams in it now. So that actually even makes more sense. Like you got Virginia 18, they lose. Once they have the same amount of losses as Michigan, Michigan's gonna get denied. Same with Vanderbilt, same with Missouri. Um, I feel like a two-loss Michigan team might hop a one-loss BYU. Memphis or 6-0, they're sitting at 20-22. Yeah. If Michigan keeps winning, they'll they'll be back ranked. That's almost like a rite of passage. Like, if it's right, wrong, that can that's subjective, but they'll they're they're gonna be back ranked for sure.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so with Notre Dame, with them playing uh USC decks and USC rank 20, like is that a is that a good loss for them if they lose? Do you see them even with three? Do you see them at 25 with three losses?
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I think it's a wrap for them anyway. I mean, it would be a stress.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not saying to the playoffs, but I'm just saying the Ravens.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, not nah. If they lose to USC, no, no. That won't be a good loss. Because I mean, I I think at this point, like, how many good losses can you have in the season? You know what I'm saying? I feel like they've already got two good losses. I don't think there's room for a third, fourth, fifth, and nothing like that. I mean, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so if they so if they beat USC with them being at 13, do you move them above Georgia Tech or a two-loss Tennessee with losing to Bama? And uh who else in Tennessee lose?
SPEAKER_05:That's where the Toss of Georgia and Bama. That's where the committee's gonna like sit down and talk. It's just like if you line Notre Dame up against some of them teams, what do you think the outcome would be?
SPEAKER_03:Because you'll look at Tennessee with two good losses, too. You'll say, okay, well, they lost to Bama and Georgia, those two top ten teams at the at the moment. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:When it when it happened, it's ranked as high as Miami or Texas AM.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm just
SPEAKER_05:Because really, and then if it was crazy is Notre Dame is thirteen, if some people in front of them lose, what do you do? You just turn it down. That's what I was saying.
SPEAKER_03:Like, that's why I was looking at somebody like a Tennessee, who also probably has, you know, close to the same quality of losses. Do you j do you do a does another Dame leak them with a win over UFC?
SPEAKER_05:That's why the rankings is wild, man. The rankings is really wild.
SPEAKER_02:Any of the teams ahead of them, if they lose, there's a chance that Notre Dame can jump them. Because none of them are going to be losing the top five teams in the country.
SPEAKER_05:Right. And we figure Notre Dame's probably going to run the table, and they're sitting at 13. They win all the rest of their games. Like they literally have nowhere to go, but uh you can't fucking them up.
SPEAKER_03:Because then you look at uh you look at another one like uh LSU at 10. They lost to Ole Miss. They only lost it to Ole Miss. But if they beat Van Dy, while they ranked 17, if definitely if they beat Texas AM or Bama, either one of them, I don't think you jump another Dame jumps stem with any one of those wins, even if Notre Dame went out. I'm not sure. That's what I'm saying. I'm just thinking, like, I mean, those even with uh, I mean, even let's say they lose to Texas and or let's say they lose, beat Texas AM but lose to Bama or Vanderbilt, whichever one though, because they're all gonna be credit for those. Like, which one of those losses would it take for Notre Dame to leap LSU? Out of those three. If anyone lose, yeah, and any one of those, they lose, uh you put a Notre Dame in front of them.
SPEAKER_02:If it's a bad loss, yeah. I mean, you gotta think again, Notre Dame lost by a total of four points between those two games. If you'll go and then a last second touchdown. So that the committee looks at all that, so all that matters. So if you tell me LSU goes out and a point difference between the team. Yeah, like so if they they go out there and look by two touchdowns, then yeah, I can see the committee putting them above them.
SPEAKER_05:And subjectively speaking, LSU just hasn't they haven't looked good. No, they haven't looked good. Even in their wins. Yeah, no. I remember when uh I think her name is Heather Dennich, she was saying after the the Clemson game that they were the clear-cut number one team. I'm just like, we watched the same game because the only reason LSU beat Clemson at night is because somebody had to win. Terrible game. It was terrible disgusting. So I'm like, how in the world? It's it's sports is just interesting because you just hear people's opinions and just be like, wow, how did you get that from that? I watched that game. I was sitting here with my dad, so I know I watched we watched every second of it. I'm just like you got that a team to you got that a team should be the clear-cut, undisputed number one team off of that game. Both teams looked horrendous to me. And Clemson just went downhill and LSU just has still hasn't really offended.
SPEAKER_02:So And that's what I was gonna say, as they as they often say in the in the media, that quote didn't age well considering how bad Clemson has looked since that guy did right down.
SPEAKER_05:She gets paid to like give her opinion off. That's probably one of the worst takes I've ever heard. And like I keep saying, y'all know I'm not that biased person, but it's just like so Ohio State beats the number one team in the nation the very first week of the season, and then you watch that struggle game, and you think that that the winner that you think the LSU should hop? Because I was just like, wow.
SPEAKER_02:Especially if you're gonna try to base it off of one game.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, the game was terrible. Like, I was just like, this only reason LSU won is because somebody had to win. Like, that's the only reason LSU that they both looked terrible. Neither team looked good at all. So I was just like, well, I guess, but you know, and then my my my take on it that came true because Clemson's nowhere to be found, and LSU just still hasn't hasn't hasn't looked good at all. Let me see who their loss is to. I couldn't think of it off the top of my head. They lost to Ole Miss. But I don't think Ole Miss is I don't I don't I don't know. And then the struggle path for it like that, and yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like I said, they like y'all been. They don't they haven't looked good, even like I said, their wins haven't looked good, the losses have been pretty bad. Like they just haven't alright for sure. Yeah, like I've never I've never said, and they was talking about Clemson beginning of the season too, and I was just like they always do.
SPEAKER_05:It's just one of those teams that just be like, all right, whatever, man. Same thing I was saying about Penn State. Like, I could not see for the life of me what people saw in that team. I just didn't understand it. Like, I did not understand it.
SPEAKER_03:But again, like I think that's just again, like based on name, and I mean we keep saying this is just that's terrible.
SPEAKER_05:That was a terrible, terrible, subjective thought, and it panned right out exactly how I thought it would go. Like, that was terrible. Like they they they never should have been ranked the top five. I mean, top ten, whatever. But I mean, they even some of the past years, I mean, they've had way better teams and they didn't start out number two.
SPEAKER_03:So I just didn't, I didn't, or but I think they're probably a victim of of the playoff. You know what I mean? Just to sense up the playoffs now.
SPEAKER_05:So I mean that that's that's true.
SPEAKER_03:I guess I just as I'm saying, I just think there's a victim, like now with the playoffs. Now you can the top teams, you could get a you could better gauge them now. You can say, okay, like what did they do last year? Like, how close were they to the playoffs? Like, did they progress and things of that nature? Like, you know what I mean? And the championship games come into consideration too. You know what I mean? They play a little part in that too. Like, how did they do in their conference or things of that nature? Man, I thought they had some transfers or something I didn't know about because and then I mean again, like going back to kind of what we said, like the returning quarterback, it was like who else has a returning quarterback with any any any tape on them that was in the top, you know, I mean, top 12, whatever. It was like nobody, so it was like I think all that was benefit of the doubt at that moment. But like you said, it shoots terrible. Well, it took it took, you know, I mean, a couple weeks and they shoot, they're nowhere to be seen. So it is what it is. Uh, but yeah, man, I I think, like I said, I don't really see nobody going crazy. I think Missouri is probably gonna be one of those surprise teams that come up. I'm not sure. Um I was just watching them against Bama, like they gave us everything we could handle. So, yeah. But the rest of them, I mean, I think Texas is what do we think about Texas? I guess we didn't say nothing about them. Like, that's another two-loss team that's ranked 21st right now.
SPEAKER_05:Like, it looked like old boy is gonna be coming back because he certainly ain't going pro after this year.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, I mean, they get Vanderbilt in Georgia and Texas AM still. They might lose all three of those.
SPEAKER_02:I was gonna say they could get three more losses.
SPEAKER_05:They can very well lose all three of those games by a nice little margin, too. Yeah, I could see Georgia beating them 40 to 20.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. That wouldn't be shocking.
SPEAKER_05:Not at all. Yeah. Arch is just not, he's not, he's just not looking good this year.
SPEAKER_03:That old line is horrible. Uh, I ain't even tapped in that. Man, I was watching that Oklahoma game. Like, it made 23 to 6, yeah, but they were knocking, they've been knocking, they've really been knocking him around for the past four games.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he holds on to the ball too long, too.
SPEAKER_05:I would have watched that game if I thought Oklahoma's quarterback was still hurt. He ended up missing, only missing like a game or two. He had like hand surgery, and I thought he was gonna be out a month, so I didn't even turn that game on because I thought the quarterback was out, but he played and they lost. So yeah, there that's that's not a that's not a good look for OU at all. And I guess that's what kind of saved Texas this season. Yeah, that's that's a decent win for them. I mean, I think Oklahoma was ranked five.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, before that happened, yep. Mm-hmm. I mean, they're still 14th, I mean, at 5-1. Uh so but again, like I said, Texas get they get Ole Miss. I mean, not Ole Miss, uh AM. So that may be that may be their saving grade, and they get Georgia and Vanderbilt. So, I mean, you they essentially need to win all three of those.
SPEAKER_05:Hey, but let me let me let me say this before we shift gears. Like, man, hey, shout out to IU football. Like, they they are on some stuff. Now, if people would have made them the number one ranked team in the nation this week, I wouldn't have been could you can't even be mad at it. Can't be mad at it. You look at what we did against Illinois and what they did against Illinois. I knew going into the game, I'm like, bro, there's no way, no chance in hell we're beating them 63 to 10. IU beat them 63 to 10. We beat them 34 to 16 or something like that.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Hey, and then to go to Oregon and smack them up, I feel like that would have been a more a bigger lead had that game kept going on. Like it's because IU was hitting a stride at the end. That pick six kind of made it, kind of shift it, you know, everything a little bit, but they came right back, got a touchdown. Like, IU look good.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:And I never thought I would ever say that, ever in my life, you know, have an opportunity to say IU football looks good, but they look good. So I mean, it's just like sometimes it's it's better to not have these um, you know, these these top ranked guys, not have a Jeremiah Smith, not have all these guys with all these expectations, no Caleb Downs. They play ball. They they they play good, they play good football and they look really good. So like if we meet them in the uh Big Ten Championship, which I mean is I think is inevitable at this point, that's gonna be a game. But it might end up hurting whoever wins going into the playoffs because it's like that's gonna be a game. That's a play, that's gonna be a playoff game. It's just gonna be a non-elimination playoff game, but it's gonna be a playoff game for sure. So shout out to them.
SPEAKER_03:I agree, I agree. Let's jump over to the grown man's league.
SPEAKER_05:Oh my god. Everybody's fine except for Vernon. Everybody's just like, I mean, man, I mean I didn't see that.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, for once. I mean, normally it's my team. Like, normally y'all, y'all teams is fine.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I'm always like we were six and ten last year, Vernon.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and I was like, I mean, we were six and ten.
SPEAKER_04:But I mean, I'm just saying, excuse me, my bad.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just saying, historically, since we've been doing this podcast, y'all teams have been okay. Even at six to ten, Ike.
SPEAKER_05:I would say slightly better than yours, and that's no shade, but and I wouldn't say much more than that about my guys. We ain't been in the playoffs since 2022.
SPEAKER_03:We haven't been since before then. This is three, this is three seasons. You could probably add five more years on to that on ours. Damn.
SPEAKER_05:It's been that long since y'all been good.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no, well, uh no. If you want to count the Phillip Rivers year. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04:Well, yeah, it counts.
SPEAKER_03:You want to count that, you want to count that year? Yeah, we we made it, we made it to the wild card and got got tapped.
SPEAKER_05:It's looking rather ugly on my side. Injuries on Ike's side. Baltimore is just taking the year off. I still believe in that team.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, those injuries on the side too.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, true that. They just this just ain't their year. Like, I still think they have good quality players and a sound organization. It's just ain't their year, man.
SPEAKER_03:And it's early. It's still early. I mean, I think out of all the teams, like, I think the Niners and and the Ravens, with it still being early, I think they still have a chance. And I and I mean Purdy's coming back, like Jackson will be back at some point. I just think I think they have a better chance to to competing. Because who knows what's going on with the Browns. Uh, they still trying to figure it out. Um they just until they play Shador, like nobody's really gonna believe in nothing they got going on. Um, and then Cincinnati, of course, you know, y'all dealing with y'all injuries. I think the Ravens still have a chance. Uh the Sanders probably have a harder chance just because I think their division is probably one of the best divisions in football right now. So with with the Rams and Seahawks are playing better. And even though even though the Cardinals are like two and three, like it's they've been playing real real tough. Like, even their losses have not been like bad, bad losses, like it has been. I mean, and Murray's hurt right now, too. So which if he would have played, they could have probably beat the Colts with you know how that game went. But Jacoby Brissett didn't do bad.
SPEAKER_05:Nah, he had a decent game. I didn't watch it though, I just looked at the at the at the box score, so I don't want to put that out there. But from our stats, it looked like he had yeah, he had a solid game.
SPEAKER_03:So uh just look at some uh check power rankings right now. Right now you got Tampa Bay at one. Um talking about balling, Mayfield man.
SPEAKER_05:Baker is good. We we've had this conversation. I know y'all y'all remember me saying Baker's real deal.
SPEAKER_03:No, I I always thought he was too. Like I always thought Cleveland was like just and I think everybody was kind of like, what is Cleveland doing? Like to let this matter go.
SPEAKER_02:That it would have been this in Cleveland, though. Situations matter.
SPEAKER_03:I think no, I agree with that too, but like he wasn't playing reasonable bad football in Cleveland.
SPEAKER_05:We made him look better than this in Cleveland, like shit. He was he was beating us worse than he's beating niggas now.
SPEAKER_04:So like I never, I never, I never not spot a vision in Baker Mayfield.
SPEAKER_05:That's why I always I share something from like a post I made like three or four years ago talking about like when people badmouth Baker Mayfield, I just shut up because I seen what Duke can do. I've always been a believer in Baker Mayfield, and like now it's it's crazy to see him getting his flower. So yeah, yeah, he looks really good.
SPEAKER_03:And you and you're right, uh Justin, situations do matter a lot. And it's something with Cleveland, bro. And I think we've seen it over the years. Like, it's just something in Cleveland when, especially at least at quarterback-wise, and even receiver-wise, too, because receivers don't even like hanging around there. Like, it's something with them that just they get rid of QBs before they time, or you know, it's something developmental, it's something there in Cleveland that's deterring uh good quarterback play or good offensive play, I should say, in a sense. So making stupid decisions.
SPEAKER_05:I think Deshaun Watson deal was stupid. Also, I mean it's like, why would you trade Omari Cooper? Like, why don't you just keep him? You had Jerry Judy, you had Njoku, why would you trade Amari Cooper? I didn't understand that.
SPEAKER_03:Right, and then now we're seeing it live now, like with the whole quarterback thing. Like, y'all know y'all should be playing Shadour Sanders. Like, y'all know it.
SPEAKER_02:I I can't say that because I mean Dylan Gabriel ain't played bad.
SPEAKER_05:And I mean, yeah, he was. They should have never took Shadur is more so I can stand on nothing more so than I can stand on.
SPEAKER_02:He should be playing over Dylan Gabriel.
SPEAKER_05:Because I mean you drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round. I mean, you kind of gotta play him. I mean, you gotta give him first divs. You gotta give him first divs. Exactly. You gotta give him first divs. I mean, he's a third rounder. But you should have never took Shadur Sanders. Like you should have never done that. But other teams should have. So, I mean, we can play that game, you know. Now, now I think uh uh the the Saints looking stupid because they they don't have they still don't have a franchise quarterback.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think Rattler been good though. I don't know if you've watched any of that game. Rattler been good.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know if he's the guy though. I don't know if he's he's the guy.
SPEAKER_02:He ain't been the reason they're losing. I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_05:He ain't been the reason they're losing.
SPEAKER_04:But he played abnormally well against us, ain't gonna lie. I I was very impressed, honestly.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, Ike, he's been playing good all year, bro. For real. Like if you go look, yeah, I don't know if y'all watched it in New Orleans, but like some of that games, if you go back and watch them, Rattler ain't been their problem. I'll tell you that now.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I ain't tapped in.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he's he's actually been playing well. And if y'all think about it, even more so, if he wasn't playing well, yeah, I know they would have put the Tyler Shook or whatever the dude's name is real. Yeah, that's all they would have played. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_05:That's an abomination. Malpractice all day. Because, like, how do you how do you how do you pick some of these guys before Shadow Sanders? Last bruh, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, man. Like, look at I mean, even Dylan Gabriel, how do you throw it 52 times and only get nine points? He was averaging like five.
SPEAKER_01:It ain't Dylan Gabriel's fault.
SPEAKER_03:Five five yards, five yards of completion. No touchdowns, like nothing. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:I don't even know if it was five yards because he got what a hundred. He went how many? 4.8. Oh, yeah. I was gonna say, I don't even think, yeah, it's right under five. I thought it was less than that. I thought he had like 190 something yards off 52 passes, but probably got some garbage time in. But hey.
SPEAKER_03:We got Detroit Lions at two. They've been playing really well, too. Um with the two losses, I think they probably the best two loss team right now. Uh I would say both. They got Buffalo at three, but I don't know. After I don't know. They didn't look good at all. I was just like Atlanta, bro. Last night, man, Atlanta put like that 24 to 14 is not how that game looked. Nah.
SPEAKER_05:Did y'all see that that blast play before halftime, though? Yeah, yeah. He stepped out at the half. I was like, oh, because when he caught it, you could tell that he thought, like, get down, but then he was like, Well, shit. I'm right here. So he just took off. And I'm like, oh, and yeah, I thought he got in at first, and then I seen him step out. I was like, damn. Yeah. But this really sucks for us, Justin, because like the year that the AFC ain't really talking about nothing, we're just both both in the dumps. Like, this, I mean, AFC's wide open for the first time in I don't know how many years. I mean, you got the arguably the best team in AFC is fucking three and three. I mean, somebody could say the Chiefs could be, you know, I don't really know who else they could just say, oh, they're clear-cut best in AFC. I mean, the Chiefs will probably arguably still get some votes for the best team in AFC, and they're three and three. So this would have been a perfect opportunity for us or for y'all. Uh oh, well, no, the Colts. Yeah, AFC, which I don't think anybody expected that. I would just have to see. It's wide open, man.
SPEAKER_03:This would be we just gotta play, we gotta play some teams.
unknown:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I think the Rams is the Rams is probably the best team we've done played so far. Yeah, yeah, I definitely.
SPEAKER_02:Y'all played the Rams, y'all played Denver. I mean, I don't know what all you think you're gonna get.
SPEAKER_05:Franklin Central, y'all got next. Pike after that. Yeah, y'all definitely have played some of the some of the weaker teams, but did you say Pike? Yeah, they they got Franklin Central next and then Pike up after that.
SPEAKER_03:And that's just my thing. I mean, like I said, from being, like I said, I from being going through what I went through with the Colts, like like I need to see them against some of the top teams. Who's the top team?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, Chiefs.
SPEAKER_03:Play it, play a Buffalo, play it, exactly. Mark Jackson and Baltimore.
SPEAKER_02:Buffalo is not gonna give you a good barometer because they are overrated. Yeah, and y'all know I'm not a big Buffalo guy, but their defense is terrible. Their offense isn't great, and you've seen that the last two weeks.
SPEAKER_05:I think they'll see that the last week.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think so. Do you know why Buffalo wouldn't beat the Colts? Because Buffalo can't stop the run. And the Colts probably got the best running back in the NFL.
SPEAKER_05:He got the best running back in the NFL against who they've played. I mean, I don't know. Well, it's it's a lot of football left.
SPEAKER_03:Like I said, I just to me, I need to see more. I I can't get too high on this.
SPEAKER_05:You know, and I and I would be in that same situation, I would be in that same boat if I were you as well. Like, can't knock what they have done.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm extremely happy in Group. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:Like, but I've I've I've seen they've actually really done it.
SPEAKER_03:Like Denver, like Denver's four and two. That I mean, if you want to count them as the best, but they their offense hasn't been as great either. It'd be Jets 13 to 11. Like, uh not too sold on the Broncos and what they've been doing either. Oh, they look they look bad.
SPEAKER_05:Whoa. Against the Jets. I think that's what I'm saying. Like the rant mine might be worse than ours, bro. And I never thought, because like I was I did a car show in Cincinnati on on uh Sunday, and they had me, my booth was like set up right next to this. They had like a probably a 200-inch projector, so I like actually watched the whole game because I was just sitting there, you know, majority of the day, and that both teams were terrible, but the Jets offensive line, I don't know, bro. They might they might be worse than ours. Like, and I never thought I'd say that. I mean, they they didn't give Justin Fields a chance to blink. Like, it was I was like, wow, they really bad it I don't even understand how how an NFL team can be an NFL team with that those kind of deficiencies. And it's not like, well, I guess Denver does have a a good pass rush, but I mean, hell, any team would have a pass rush playing against the Jets O-line and the Bengals O-line. I mean shit. That would make anybody's D-line look amazing with those two games in your first six. But uh, yeah, they they they looked they were bad. That was that was probably one of the worst NFL games I've ever seen. It was terrible. That was like I actually got to sit down and like watch like every play. It was a terrible game. Terrible. Both teams should should have lost. I can't imagine flying all the way to London and not scoring a touchdown.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but I mean, like I said, I mean, even uh even a game against Green Bay, like the Lions, like the Buccaneers, the teams we've done talked about, like I want to see like them against one of those top-tier teams. And the only one I've seen so far is the Rams that I would consider top tier.
SPEAKER_01:But you're not naming anybody that I mean, I don't know. I did not even I mean I really see.
SPEAKER_03:The Buccaneers, the Lions, like the top-tier teams. Like, I want to see them against some of them.
SPEAKER_02:Hell, the Chiefs. Not sold against the Lions, not sold with the Chiefs. Buccaneers are depleted by injuries now. I mean, I again I don't know who you're wanting them to play. That's going to be a good thing.
SPEAKER_05:Those teams that we just named. Like, those are if they were. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Okay, okay, here we go.
SPEAKER_02:Here's their nope nope, nope, nope. I'm good. Scratch it.
SPEAKER_03:All up. I'm good. This is their schedule coming up. The Chargers, the Titans, the Steelers, the Falcons, the Chiefs, the Texans, the Jaguars, the Seahawks, the Niners, the Jaggers, Texas. That's the rest of our schedule. So, Chargers, maybe. They've been playing real good. So that'd be a good test next week. And we're we're we're we're it's an it's away game for us. So I like to see that. If the Falcons keep playing like they played last night, I would like to see that. And we get the Chiefs in KC. If they keep playing like they've been playing since they had had their couple losses, if they keep playing and they give Rasheed Rice, if they start playing better, I would like to see that. So and then we get the Seahawks. So some of the teams I name, like I said, if these teams keep playing well, then yeah, I would like to see these games later in the season, especially when teams got more tape and things like that on the coats. For me to be so, but like I'm not giving them credit for the Raiders, the Titans, the Broncos, and the Dolphins.
SPEAKER_05:Cardinals without Kyler.
SPEAKER_03:Cardinals, right? That's what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not gonna get hype on them on that. I want to see them against better teams.
SPEAKER_05:I totally agree.
SPEAKER_03:Totally agree. That's all I'm saying. I'm not going anywhere now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The opportunities are coming, and I want to see. You know? So that's all I'm saying. Uh so we got they got it actually coats at four. You got Philly at five at four-and-two after losing to the Giants. 34-17, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_05:They'll too anus.
SPEAKER_03:Uh Packers at six at three, one, and one. Uh Rams at four and two at seven.
SPEAKER_05:I don't like the Packers. I feel like they should be a little bit better. I don't like the Packers.
SPEAKER_03:Uh Seahawks 4-2. They just beat the Jags. Kansas City, they 3-3. Uh just beat the Lions 30 to 17. And you got the Broncos around at the top 10 after beating the Jets 13 to 11. Niners, Niners at 11. Uh, Steelers at 12 at 4-1. Uh Chargers 13 at 4-2, New England 4-2 at 14, and Jaguars at uh 15, 4-2. So that's half the league. Uh, who the Niners? Who y'all got coming up, Ike? Uh the Falcons? We got Atlanta on Sunday. Yeah. Um, then Texans, Giants, and then Rams. I mean, I don't know how I only want to say the Giants. I don't I don't even know what to even think.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I like them. I like I like Jackson Dart. I like Jackson Dart. Scatterbow is I don't know if it's pronounced Scatterboo, Scatabow. Spell Scott Scatabow. I like him. Like, and I think, and that's what that's what irritates me about a lot of teams. Like, their their their drive is just like oozing out pause. Like, you can just tell that they just got they're just playing with this this chippiness, like, and but they're having fun. And it's like, and I I I can't stand that about my teams. Like, you can just tell you not they're not having fun. And I think that reflects in how they play. But yeah, I'm like, I'm I wish Malik Neighbors was still there. Like, if I could take back any injury so far this year, it would be Malik Malik Neighbors not being hurt. I wish Malik Neighbors. Not Burrow. Bro, yeah, you knew my feelings about I know, but I'm just saying, I'm just saying if you can take one back. I guess excluding my own, yeah. About to say, just to see. Yeah, just for season purpose, season ticket purposes, yeah. I would like to see Burrow playing. Um, but yeah, outside of that, definitely Malik Negris for sure. But yeah, I I wasn't excited for us with Burrow. Like, I uh it just was it just never dawned on me that we would even have a chance to be in any good. I just I just didn't see it. Like I keep going back to that first game. Everybody wants to say, you know, well, if they had Burrow, like if we had Burrow, we had to get the game gifted to us by the Cleveland Browns. It's like that's that was just not okay. Like, so that is what it is. Um one one other thing, one thing that I noticed about our game this week. So Logan Wilson got benched. Our starting middle linebacker for the last five seasons got benched, and guess what? I didn't even notice. I didn't even notice that he wasn't out there until I read some stuff yesterday, and I was like, well, damn. He did. Got benched for a rookie. So if that's if that tells you anything, I didn't never realize our starting linebacker wasn't on the field. Never realized it. I had to read an article to find out that he played 12 plays. So if that if that goes to show you how how bad we are, how bad that defense is, then there you go. Is uh Purdy coming back this week, hey?
SPEAKER_03:Um I haven't heard anything.
SPEAKER_04:That's the only reason why I'm asking. Also are so back this week. Okay. At least that's that's the recourse for right now. Um so we'll see once we get closer to game day if that's uh a legit thing or not.
SPEAKER_05:How's uh McCaffrey doing?
SPEAKER_04:Uh I mean, other than the fact that we can't create no holes for McCaffrey. I mean McCaffrey's issue is just that he can get the ball. And it ain't nothing. Like he has not a single hole to go to. Like everything is empty. And I mean, I guess. He's averaging three yards of run right now getting the ball and and pass, yeah. So like he's doing a lot of this damage catching the ball, but ain't no holes for him, man. He can't run anywhere because there's just nowhere for him to run. Like, people are in the backfield. Offensive line, like you talk about bad offensive lines, offensive line is an assh this year. And it it's I I think it's a big reason as to why we are having issues from a quarterback standpoint. Like, I I knew at the end of last year, at the end of the last game, like Mac was already hurt. And you could tell he was hurt. And once you realize that he couldn't get out the pocket, they didn't Kyle Ball was gonna tee off on it. And that's exactly what happened, and that's why we really couldn't. Couldn't move the buff off the last series and a half. Because once the planet collapsed, I and we would give these things away. Um we really need to do some for the offensive line, especially from a run perspective, since that is supposed to be our strength. Um I guess we kind of switched from running the ball to kind of like the short pass as kind of like our version of the run. But we we gonna have to be able to run the ball. But as far as McCaffrey looks, I mean when he can actually get in the overfield, it looks fine, but he just can't get in the overfield.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because he's he's their leading rusher and receiver. Like he got 46 catches on the year already for 400 yards, 444. Who is that? Three touchdowns, McCaffrey. Yeah, three touchdowns. He's averaging down there 10 yards a catch, yeah. So you're right, he's doing all his damage in the past game.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, they on my fantasy team though, so look, the fantasy points still look good. That's all I care about right now.
SPEAKER_03:You said who looks good? He's at the fan, he's at the he's at the fantasy, his fantasy point. He got McCaffrey on the fantasy team. He said so long as long as.
SPEAKER_04:Justin, I got a question for you, man. Hey, why y'all why y'all treating my boy like Ernie Davis, man? In that last game, man. He get y'all down the one-yard line, y'all want to hand it off to Andrews two times in a row? I could have used those points.
SPEAKER_02:Man, I don't even know if they know what they're doing at this stage in the game, so I'm like, yo, it was like a what is it?
SPEAKER_04:And I didn't see it. I was watching it on my phone. Like, I was looking at the SPN, like play by play, and I'm like, oh, okay, good run. Get you down to the one. Mark Andrews. What? Yeah. Next play. Mark Andrews.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So hey man, we're gonna get us, man.
SPEAKER_02:He's he is their quarterback in the tush push, their version of the touch push.
SPEAKER_04:So y'all don't y'all don't need to push. You need to be a good one.
SPEAKER_05:No, they they don't. Uh, was Eric Henry playing? Yeah. Yeah. That actually had a good one.
SPEAKER_03:I he's the reason why.
SPEAKER_04:You went back to the one-yard line, and then they gave it to Mark Andrews twice.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you would think that they would, I don't know, with Jackson being hurt, like that's a no-brainer who you should be giving trying to get the ball to.
SPEAKER_02:They did it last year. They Mark Andrews has been their touch push guy for probably the last two seasons.
SPEAKER_03:No, I'm not even talking about touch push, I'm just saying just getting you the ball.
SPEAKER_04:I know I I had Derek Henry last year as well. That they will not give him the ball in the one yard.
SPEAKER_02:No. That's what I'm saying. This isn't nothing new. Yeah, the whole time they had Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry doesn't automatically get short yardage. No, that that goes to Andrews, too. They they get him plenty of uh pushes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_02:I'm only griping from a fantasy standpoint. That's that's fair. That's fair. Look, it's the same thing I've been saying for uh what last two years about Philly and Saquon, or half of these teams that don't use their running backs who are capable of getting that yard, and they you know they do some other variation of a QB sneak, which is crazy to me sometimes. So what can we say? Standing fields.
SPEAKER_03:I am definitely with you on that. It is it is crazy to have a Derrick Henry, you're not giving the ball, like you said, a Saquon. I even see it with Jonathan Taylor a lot of times.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. And I just be like, what are we doing? You trying to hand it off, you're trying to hand it off to the rookie. You you're trying to get freaking uh, what's she calling? Got two rushing touchdowns.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Amir Abdullah, don't he?
SPEAKER_03:Uh Abdullah, but not even uh Tiny. Oh, yeah, Titan Warren. Yeah, got two rushing touchdowns. Oh, some oh some on some random shit. Like, what are we doing?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because they use him like that too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you were up there.
SPEAKER_02:I actually forgot until you said that.
SPEAKER_03:Like, it's just like we see, like, for some reason with these, with you got some of the top backs in the league, and it's just on the one-yard line, you're not giving them the ball. It's like at least give them one attempt. And like you said, Jared, most of the times they the reason why they got down there. Uh, Taylor had a real where he stepped out at like the two.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And they turned around and threw the ball. But I'm like, you gonna baby do all this work. I get us down here, and then like I'm on the sideline watching as my team score. Well, no, for sure. For sure, for sure. But uh with that man, uh, let's look at some of the games this week, man. Uh, we got by first off, who's on the bye this week? I'm looking at the wrong week.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I know the Ravens are on the bye this week.
SPEAKER_03:So uh Buffalo and uh and Baltimore, yeah, the Ravens are on the bye this week. Yep, both of my running backs in by so Thursday night we get uh Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, which which before, like I said, would have been a decent game. Uh Rams and and Jaguars, I think that'd be a good game. I'm gonna be that's in London. So that's at 9:30. So that that'd be a decent game. Uh Chicago, New Orleans, and Cleveland and Miami are gonna be horrible. New England, Tennessee, yeah. Uh Vegas and Kansas City.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh Minnesota, uh Minnesota Eagles. That may be alright.
SPEAKER_05:Uh basically for real. We're going on Sky from the NFL.
SPEAKER_02:The Eagles offense is trash. And Minnesota ain't been much better. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Carolina, New York, horrible. New York, Denver. That could be better if New York play like they play uh true uh this past week. That could be a decent game. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, they that that may be a decent game. Um, if both teams come to play. Let's just say that.
SPEAKER_02:And while Wild Dart is still available to play, because the way he plays, he's he's probably only got a few weeks left before he's out. So you gotta enjoy that one of the game.
SPEAKER_05:Him and Scatterbull, like they play no regards for anything. Somebody said they both got CTE already. Oh man.
SPEAKER_02:I seen Scatterbook get up and shake his head a few times. I'm like, he got a concussion. Take that boy out.
SPEAKER_03:Put that man down. Uh then you got Colts and Chargers. That should be a good game. Uh, Washington and Dallas. Uh just Dallas. Uh Green Bay and Arizona. Yeah. Atlanta-San Francisco Sunday night. I think that will be okay if everybody's back healthy. If you get Kittles and Purdy back, I think that'd be a better game. Uh, but Atlanta's D defensive line, if they play again, if they play like they played yesterday, then like you said, uh Ike's offensive line struggles. It's the last two weeks. That might be a problem. Atlanta. I've just seen them another night. I haven't been watching Atlanta enough to.
SPEAKER_02:They they beat the commanders before they went on by. And their defense played very well in that game. The last two games they played, they've Atlanta's looked much better. Although their offensive coordinator, I think, is Zach Robinson, who's a complete moron. Because I don't understand how in this day and age you don't have any formations in which your quarterback is under center. Everything you do is out of the pistol.
SPEAKER_05:Zach Robinson, that's uh Oklahoma State, ain't it?
SPEAKER_02:Uh you might be right. You might be right. Yeah. But I hate, I hate that. I'll be honest, I hate Atlanta's offense. I really do. I I it it does not do Bijan justice for how good that dude is.
SPEAKER_05:Because that dude is good.
SPEAKER_02:He's special, man.
SPEAKER_05:He should be top five if he's not already. He definitely should be. Him and him and uh outside of guys like Derrick Henry, him and uh Jameer are probably my favorite two packs.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not even being funny. You put Bijan behind Detroit's a healthy Detroit offensive line. I think you I think you're seeing something like special happen with that. Because I think he's that kind of good.
SPEAKER_03:So Bijan right now, uh shoot, 80, 83 carries for 484. He's averaging five and a half yards a run, but only two touchdowns in the last five games.
SPEAKER_02:Because they like to give it to Tyler Algier when they when Bijan gets it down to the two or the three.
SPEAKER_03:24 catches for 38 and a touchdown, yeah. I mean, I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Like you have these weapons, and you just say give it to a running back, not a true, true, true.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because I girl, yeah, he got three touchdowns to to Bijan's two.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Algier gets some carries, buddy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I don't know if it's like, I don't know, maybe I'm trying to save him, but why? Like, this is what you pay him for. Uh Monday night, we got two games. We get Tampa Bay and Detroit, which should be good.
SPEAKER_05:Defunct that shit, bro. Especially when they're like actual doubleheaders, man. That second joint started 10. I ain't about to be up for that shit.
SPEAKER_03:But the second joint is Houston and Seattle. Like, why? If you were smart, you would put that game first to make people watch it. But it's supposed to be a good one.
SPEAKER_04:Sunday. Correct. Right. Nobody wants to see that game.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Nobody's gonna stay up to to watch Seattle and Houston. Maybe just if you're just a football head, you just want to watch it. If Houston was good, yes. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02:If Houston was better, Houston's defense is fun to watch. It's just their offense has been bad. So another team that defense is good.
SPEAKER_05:Got offensive line struggles, being up at the end of that game, and you slim the none. And it's just like it's like some people were complaining about like having two on this week, but I mean, obviously, with my setup, that's not a problem for me. I actually prefer it like that. So that I was cool with that, but like having it like one after the other, like, bruh, y'all wilding.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because sometimes they they start like in the middle, you know what I mean? Like one would be at halftime and the other one to just be starting. But this is definitely gonna be three hours, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:It's gonna be yeah, end of the yeah. Definitely gonna be fourth quarter by the time the second game starts.
SPEAKER_02:That means it's in Seattle, then, right? I'm assuming that yeah, that's why. Because it's yeah, that time difference.
SPEAKER_05:That makes sense. That that makes sense. They actually gonna get a seven o'clock game local out there, they probably like damn.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, it's because you think you can think it would be a four o'clock game if they tried to make it, you know, at a reasonable time for questions.
SPEAKER_05:They never because they're not there's not even a seven o'clock Pacific start time at all. So, like, they never get that. So they probably gonna be geeked about getting getting ready getting a chance to go to a game at 7 p.m. local Pacific time. Oh, facts. Think about it. They never they never had an up. There has never been an NFL game that I can remember that started at 10 p.m. Eastern. Maybe eight.
SPEAKER_02:It has, it's not like you said, it hadn't been often. I guess I'll say it that way.
SPEAKER_03:Definitely not recently. No, for sure, for sure, for sure. But yeah, man, but hey man, that's all I got. Yes, it does. We we we defunding anything, man.
SPEAKER_05:Final thoughts, anybody? Tyrese Halliburton with this uh he's got this vendetta now against uh the Milwaukee uh Brewers, so now he's just wearing the opponent's jerseys. I I mean I get why. No, it's against the Bucks. But I'm saying, like, now he's against the Brewers because the the Brewers had him scheduled to throw out the first pitch, but when they got beat in the playoffs, they revoked it. So that's what the vendetta against the Brewers is because so this is actually against the Brewers. So he's actually wearing he was wearing club stuff, and now he's wearing uh Dodgers stuff. And y'all know how I am. That's just that's kind of cringy to me, but I I understand it. I get it. I mean, but he's he's a master troller though. I hate I hate that. I I and somebody else actually on Facebook helped me discover that. That's why I don't like Tyrese Halliburton, because I don't like trolls. Like I have no problem with it. I hate trolls, but he never like he'll be starting, though. As a grown man, you shouldn't be a troll. Like, as a grown man with like pay paying taxes, like you shouldn't be a troll. But that's my personal opinion. But I'm glad somebody helped me figure that out because I couldn't put my finger on it. I was like, why don't I like this dude? Somebody was like, it's because he's a troll. I'm like, that's it. I don't like Tiger Charles Burton because he's a troll. And I just I just personally don't care for trolls. That's just my own personal, you know. Got nothing against the guy, though. Good ball play.
SPEAKER_03:I just I just feel like as long as you can back it up.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, true, and he's definitely doing that, but I still like don't start it. Like, some people I just respect it, I just respect the game, just go kill. Even if you're talking shit out there, but like there's difference between talking shit and trolling. Like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I I guess maybe But why but why revoke me throwing out the first pitch?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that was petty. So yeah, I mean I get it. Shit, that was petty, and he's there's no reason for you to do that. Like they probably did it for the fans, though.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think it was uh the team, like, you know what, we don't want this guy, but they're probably like our fans don't really rock with him, so like you know, because I mean probably so I can pump so since you can publicly not rock with me, why can't I publicly not rock with you? Yeah, I'm not saying nothing's wrong with it. Oh, okay. I just want to make sure I'm like we're doing this, then we're doing it. I mean, I I mean his reasoning is legit, but but just like the whole Tim Hardaway situation, like that was a whole thing. He like he didn't start it, but you know, you just went on TV talking crazy about Tyrese Halliburton. Oh, just happened, just happened to be that my cousin, Zadie Jones, is smashed your wife. Hey, damn, he brought that up.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03:He don't be starting it, but I'm I'm I'm one of them people. I live my life, I look, I don't start nothing. But if you come to if you come for me, then I'm gonna let it out. You know what I mean? If there's reasons behind it, and you know what I mean? I've been being cordial about it, then I mean she can't even get at it. So that's just me, dude. But uh, yeah, nah, man. Uh what about you, Justin? Hey, what what hey man, it's October, man. What's about what's up with these fights, man? What's going down?
SPEAKER_02:I'm defunding all of boxing.
SPEAKER_05:Jeez, we look forward to this. Boxes on the phone after the dinner talking about some fights.
SPEAKER_02:I'm like, well, because then you find out, like, they ain't man, yeah, they got they got a couple okay ones coming up, man. Boxing don't make the fights you want to see, bruh. It just gets annoying after a while, man. You start, it's like, come on, man. That's that's exactly why I ain't got a problem with like Dana White stepping in. Because if he got any say in it, y'all gonna fight. Period. You know, that's what he does with the USC. So if he if he has any pool and can make boxers start fighting, let's start making it happen. So I mean, I don't know. We'll see. Me and Jared talked. I uh I hit him up about um the Jeron Innis fight uh that happened uh Saturday night. Um so after we left the dinner, I was watching it in the car and I told him he I mean it's the first time in a long time you've seen a good fight, knock him out in the first round. So um, but I don't know, it's just too many fighters that you're not seeing fight. Like I looked at the rankings, they usually come out with the rankings after the weekend for boxing. Like, I don't even remember how many it was, but like I think they do like the top ten or something like that. I'll probably say in every division, and you know there's a bajillion divisions in boxing, I want to say at least like six to seven fighters in all those divisions in the top ten who don't even have a fight date listed. It's all TBA. Wow. Like, come on, man.
SPEAKER_03:Like you should be you should be fighting every four months.
SPEAKER_02:I said, I said, I don't know why a fighter can't fight three times a year. And now and I'm with that. You know, three times a year. Four months, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, like you said, but I think the money is starting to affect the way we see it as well. Because from their their views, they're like, well, shit, if I'm getting 30 million for this fight, fight five years, 60 million.
SPEAKER_02:Well you said five months. Like you said, you're not wrong. That's why Crawford goes a year, year and a half before he fights. Like he doesn't fight if the money doesn't. And I can again, I'm not knocking him because that's a dangerous sport, of course.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think us as I think us as fans, we just want to see more.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, money is ruining it, exactly. Money is kind of ruining it from a fans like NIL is kind of ruining sports. Um, all the different streaming apps you gotta have to watch these sports now. Why are games on Peacock? Why are games on goddamn Paramount Plus? It's because of money. So from a fan's point of view, money is ruining the products. But if you can't be mad at the people getting the money, they're just like shit. No, no, mm-mm. Not mad at them.
SPEAKER_01:Not mad at them.
SPEAKER_05:Money is is what's, you know. Well, I think money and like ring culture is is kind of ruining boxing because people don't want to lose, so they're not willing to take on those, you know, those big fights. Yeah. But yet that in the money these guys is making, it's just like the money is just ungodly. So it's just like I could fight one.
SPEAKER_03:You can make the money and not ruin your record and your legacy at the same time. I think that's kind of their goals. Which uh, like you said, from a uh a consumer standpoint, you want to see the best. We want to see tank fights. We want to see good fights, yeah. We want to see, and there's enough top guys to where you can, you know what I mean? If you're ranking them every other week, then you should be able to put some fights together every month.
SPEAKER_02:Every month, there should be at least one big fight that you can provide a bunch of and that's not even asking. That's 12 fights throughout a year. You if you can't do that, then you got a serious problem in that sport. Uh and I'll put it like that.
SPEAKER_03:And even if and and and I and alone to go along with that, I think it's too many weight classes, too.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it is. They need to get rid of they need to get rid of happiness.
SPEAKER_03:Because that's probably another thing, too. Like, that's why you can avoid fights.
SPEAKER_02:That's why you can avoid factors.
SPEAKER_03:Shrink some of these weight classes, expand them, I should say, some of these weight classes. You know what I mean? Break it down into maybe four or five classes, and let that be it. And like you said, there's no reason why we shouldn't get, you know, top fights every month.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, it's it's yeah, I uh it's box boxing should be ashamed of themselves. Like I'll I just I looked it up because I was curious as when they were showing it. So you got heavyweight, which is unlimited, then after that you got cruiser weight, which is up to 200 pounds, then you got light heavyweight up to 175, then you got super middleweight up to 168.
SPEAKER_03:See, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Then you got middleweight up to 160. No, no, then you got junior middleweight, which is up to 154, and I can just keep going on and on, as you can see. Like, I I can just I can keep talking about it, like welterweight's 147. No, just then you got junior welterweight 140. Like, it's just too many weight classes. Again, this this I hope y'all know there are still several weight classes left in this. Like, I ain't even no, no, bro. Yeah, like you down to 100 pounds.
SPEAKER_03:What are we doing?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then you got what how how many belts in each one of those? Five. Oh, it's five, yeah, four or five belts. Like, it's just there that it's designed to keep fighters like money for as long as it's about money and unscathed, but it's so many fighters who are like 20 and oh who have never fought anybody. Like it's so that's the thing. 20 and 30 and oh means nothing nowadays because that it just that doesn't mean you fought anybody. That's the problem.
SPEAKER_05:So everybody you fought en route to that 30 and 0 is gonna combine 950 to an 80. Right. You know, 2 and 80 is crazy.
SPEAKER_03:And with that, too, like I think you should just put a uh say, hey, look, in order to fight no, no, light heavyweight, you need to be between 125 and 150. It's your choice. If you want to be at the max weight, cool. If you want to be at the least amount, that's fine too. But you're gonna be fighting in this way, you know what I'm saying? And just like you gotta just broaden it out. Broaden it out and let them pick their weights in between the hey, look, you can fight at the any weight you can in between in within this scale.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they gotta get rid of them. It's just too many weight classes, it's too many belts.
SPEAKER_03:But you're breaking them out every 10 or 15 pounds, like get out of here.
SPEAKER_02:What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03:So I agree with that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then I would also like uh I would say after defunding boxing, I would also like to defund the U.S. men's national team as well as the FIFA uh entity within itself, because I still can't get World Cup tickets, and US Men's National soccer team is terrible.
SPEAKER_04:So I'm I have not found anything for you. I asked around too, by the way. So man, nothing.
SPEAKER_02:Nothing. Nothing. Um what I was told is that what we will find at towards the beginning of 2026 is we're gonna find a crazy resale market where people are charging you the price of a car to get to one of the games. So, and I I ain't got nothing for you for that. I ain't got nothing for you. Not the price of a car. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm I'm good. Yeah, I'm I'm my TV works.
SPEAKER_03:My TV works very well. Just fine. Just fine. Yep. Very well. I'll buy I'll buy a new TV before I do that. I was you know, let's get a new TV for the World Cup. Oh man, that's all I got, man. Ike, what you got, man?
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah. So um did you enroll in Medicaid or Medicare A or B? Um, and then your senior citizen discount that you just aged into. Oh, um I want to talk about you at first. Um, you know, it does that work at like Top Golf and places like that.
SPEAKER_05:Man, bye, dude.
SPEAKER_03:I just want to say for the record, it's seven months. This man will be 40 also.
SPEAKER_05:Man, I'm thinking this nigga. Then he gets to start talking about Medicaid. I'm like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:Where is this going? In March. This man will be 40 also. Yes, I just turned 40. And by the way, I want to thank all y'all for wishing me happy birthday. I want to thank you guys for coming out, man. I appreciate it. Uh have fun. It's a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_05:I'm the youngster. I ain't even 37 yet. Oh, okay. Oh, but yeah. That's some time ago. Yeah, yeah. So I don't even think I knew that you were 40, bro. That's crazy. That's a good thing.
SPEAKER_03:Keep not knowing. I shut up. V40. Yeah, talking about how old I am. You'll be 40 in a couple months.
SPEAKER_04:I technically didn't give up your age. I just you didn't.
SPEAKER_03:You ain't gotta give it a give up my own age. I'm not ashamed of being 40.
SPEAKER_04:I'm just saying, right around the corner. What you were supposed to do when you have to do nothing. Have you scheduled your prosthetics? My day. I'm just trying to make sure that you are good, man. That's all I'm trying to do.
SPEAKER_03:All right. And that has been Epic Podcast, y'all. We may see y'all next week. Dealing with these cats, man. You keep adding me on the show each week, and this is what you're gonna do. I think you'll be here next week, too.