E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
NFL Free Agency Breakdown
We dive deep into NFL free agency moves, analyzing how teams are handling quarterback decisions, salary cap constraints, and roster construction philosophies across the league.
• San Francisco's mass exodus of talent while accumulating 15 draft picks suggests a calculated retooling rather than a rebuild
• The stark contrast between teams with QBs on rookie deals (Bears, Commanders, Patriots) who are spending versus teams with expensive QBs (Bengals, Cowboys, Ravens) who remain quiet
• Strange quarterback competition situations developing, particularly with the Colts bringing in Daniel Jones to "challenge" Anthony Richardson
• Denver making significant defensive upgrades with Greenlaw and Hufanga additions to an already strong unit
• Potential for the Browns to make a splash in the draft by selecting Travis Hunter at #2 and possibly reuniting him with Deion Sanders as coach in the future
• Teams like the Bengals and Ravens facing criticism for not maximizing their championship windows with their franchise quarterbacks
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Speaker 2:Welcome back to another episode of the epic podcast. I am joined today by justin and ike man. What man? How's y'all? Sports weekend been Sports week, I got to say sports week. What's going on right now? Well, for you, you've been preoccupied, but yes man, yeah man, your team has been very in the mix. No we haven't.
Speaker 3:I don't know if in the mix, no, we haven't. I don't know if in the mix, we'll be.
Speaker 2:I mean we're doing everything that I expected us to do Well it, will it had to happen at some point. At some point San Francisco had to start making some decisions. I think we all kind of figured this was coming too. Justin, your team not so much man.
Speaker 4:Y'all been surprisingly quiet no, I ain't got no cash face, can't do nothing. That's why I'm such a big proponent for, why, like, I like how the patriots, the commanders, the bears. That's when you do your spending, when you're quarterbacks on rookie contracts. You know, I don't know why teams don't understand that part of it. But yeah, baltimore ain't got a lot of cap flexibility this year, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Makes sense, makes sense, and we should have Jerry joining us soon at some point. Speaking of the man himself, he is now here. Bring him on in Mike.
Speaker 4:there's a lot of bodies, though that's gone missing in San Fran, so I am kind of curious to see how that plays out.
Speaker 2:All right, so we got Jared in here also. We're just kicking it off, man. So how's your sports week been?
Speaker 5:Cool man. Saturday I was able to meet Cardell Jones and Jamar Chase Got some autographs they would top it up a little bit. So that was cool, cool experience. You could tell Jamar Chase was kind of disgruntled, which I don't blame him, but Cardell Jones is probably the nicest human being I've probably ever encountered. So you know, that was a cool experience. Other than that man, same old, same old Still can't get into college basketball. Uh, lebron got hurt Saturday night, you know same old shit Not too much.
Speaker 2:Everybody's here for it, so let's go ahead and get to it. Man, we just we going to jump into this NFA agency. Man, A lot going on Not necessarily with our teams, though, per se so all our teams have been surprisingly quiet. Oh, I'm missing.
Speaker 4:Ike, I'm missing Ike. You got to be excited to have your starting quarterback Mass stop.
Speaker 3:Bro, that's not even about to do. That's the most asinine.
Speaker 5:It doesn't make sense. There has to be some investigation going on.
Speaker 2:It's only a one-year thing, but it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 5:Why do?
Speaker 2:you want him, I don't know, not you. There has to be some investigation going on. It's only a one-year thing, I mean, but why do you want?
Speaker 3:him? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Not you, but I'm just saying I'm agreeing with you. So you bring in someone else who's haven't really won anything in the past four years almost. I mean he went to the playoffs and won one playoff game, but that's really it. He hasn't done anything since then. He's been horrible. He's not challenging him. You're trying to make it look that way, but he's not a challenge.
Speaker 4:He's going to be your starting quarterback man.
Speaker 5:Maybe they're trying to challenge, but they're trying to save face too. Maybe they wanted to bring in somebody that they knew he would beat out. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what it looks like. It looks like you brought in somebody, like you said, to save face, to say hey look, we brought in somebody to challenge him. Wink, wink. Yeah, exactly. But I do like what we've done on defense so far. We've dressed our DB problem because we definitely needed that. Bynum is solid, hasn't missed a game in almost four years. Uh, ward, I mean solid pickup. Hopefully he can stay healthy. Um, I'm not mad at those two pickups.
Speaker 3:Uh, outside of that awards issue wouldn't help.
Speaker 2:So, uh, we find I mean, and I mean that's really it ashtoolin signed, re-signed back with us and I mean we got Daniel Jones one year, $14 million $13 of it fully guaranteed, some signing bonus stuff and blah, blah, blah. Max value of $17,700. But yeah, that was just horrible. There's too many quarterbacks out there who could really challenge him for that. Who you to bring in?
Speaker 5:If you were trying to have a true quarterback competition, I you for that who you to bring in if you were trying to have a true quarterback, uh competition. So I mean who's left that you would want? I mean, I'm just saying that was before he before we got him.
Speaker 3:I can think of a number of guys. I mean james winston, I know I. I really wanted to hear who like I'm not. I'm not saying that, no, I look, nobody wants it, I'm just. I just want to see who bernie was looking at outside like once everybody I wasn at I wasn't looking at him.
Speaker 2:I mean, last week I was saying the same thing. I was saying like a Jameis Winston, it can't be somebody that's super old, but it has to be somebody who knows what they're doing and that's really going to challenge who wants a starting job. Like I feel like somebody like Jameison wants a starting job. Like you're not going to get the Justin Fields or the guys like that. He's not going to do that. I'm just saying I wasn't thinking nobody like that. Exactly, I wasn't thinking nobody like that. But you got to bring somebody in there who has some type of credibility. Daniel Jones just don't have enough credibility for me to challenge Richardson for the job. I don't think you bring him in saying you know what. There's a possibility Daniel Jones could be the one. After everything you've seen from him in New York, that couldn't have been the idea.
Speaker 5:I don't know what the idea was. I don't know what the idea was picking Richardson as high as they did either. I don't know. It's crazy. My team ain't no better. I have no idea what we're doing. I don't know. I have no idea what we're doing, so I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Maybe he becomes Sam Darnold 2.0.
Speaker 4:That would be.
Speaker 2:I mean that would be good.
Speaker 4:I tried that last bro.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I mean, y'all got P-Rhyme, I mean the.
Speaker 2:Bengals y'all got P-Rhyme. I mean the Bengals y'all got P-Rhyme back.
Speaker 5:I mean, there just ain't been no needle movers though, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nah, I'm looking right now.
Speaker 5:You have to like make needle-moving moves in order to get back, and it's just like, just don't I mean the guy from the Packers.
Speaker 2:Most people re-sign back. I mean outside of CJ. I never heard of the guy. Yeah.
Speaker 5:The guy that came from Green Bay never heard of him. Couldn't even tell you where he went to college. The guy from the Eagles never heard of him. I looked him up I still don't know where he went to college Florida. Owen Burks went to Florida.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, I thought you're talking about the dt. I could look up shit I didn't know that either.
Speaker 5:Burks went to vanderbilt golly I mean, I have no idea what we're doing bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody else is just re-signed.
Speaker 5:And then you bring BJ Hill back. My thing with the Bengals is like we sign, we bring back guys that nobody else wants. Like, would BJ Hill probably have gotten signed by somebody later on? Nah, perhaps I'm not going to say that he definitely wouldn't have been on a roster next season, but there's a chance that he probably wouldn't have been on a roster next season. But there's a chance that he probably wouldn't. If it knows that the kind of guys we bring in um, we've been getting special team guy what is a? What is a? A special a guy that pays 79, 71 percent of the snaps on special teams gonna do for us.
Speaker 3:Wait, wait wait, did you say y'all got oren burks? That's what I'm talking about. I'm sorry man. Owen Burks is the linebacker who gave up all the yards to Travis Kelsey in the Super Bowl after Jerry Green went down.
Speaker 2:He had a lot of yards in the Super Bowl yeah he only started.
Speaker 3:He had 100 yards in the second half. He had no catch and the Super Bowl is up.
Speaker 5:I thought he put a shit in the Super Bowl. I must have been asleep, do what against the 49ers?
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah, they played three games for the Niners.
Speaker 3:Greenlaw went down. He had no catches and he had like 10 for a hundred and some change after Greenlaw went down. That's the Bengals, bro. I say all that to say I'm sorry.
Speaker 5:Granted, he's not making a whole lot. But it's just like why, why, I mean, why even give him anything? I think he's making like 2.5 or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he only started two games last year for Philly.
Speaker 5:It's something. But the Philly fans on my timeline say he played well.
Speaker 2:He had 41 tackles. I mean one pass defended yeah, two forced fumbles.
Speaker 3:I don't know, man, I don't know what we're doing. Though he didn't defend no pass in the Super Bowl. I'm telling you that much.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to Not our Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:anyway, I don't know what he did last year. I don't even know what he got to do last year.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he got a two-year, two-point I mean two-year $5 million deal, and that's another question. It's just like if the Eagles thought anything of him, they couldn't give him two years $6 million. No, I mean it's just like we don't want you.
Speaker 4:Well, they actually couldn't. That's why they're making all these moves that they're making.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, that's true. I still don't buy it we. Oh yeah, that's true, I still don't buy it. We'll see though.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, don't forget, the Eagles got a GM who's very creative with the numbers, but you got to remember, they just gave Saquon that bread and then they got some other guys they got to prepare to pay. So you know, it's one of those where they actually don't have the extra six mil to give on that guy. Because, don't forget, like I said, you know Jordan Davis will be coming up soon and if that's a guy you want to keep, you know he's getting money. Like he's not a guy you're going to give $10 million a year.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying I mean you just pay bond too. You know what I mean $351.
Speaker 4:Just pay Zach, yep, yep. So yeah, why they let CJ Gardner Johnson go, darius Slade go? Didn't try after Milton Williams or Josh Swett, like they don't have. Unfortunately they don't have the luxury cap-wise to do that. Don't forget, they just extended both Devontae Smith and AJ Brown, so they actually don't have that kind of bread to be able to maneuver.
Speaker 2:I know it seems like a contract, but all that add up for them when they got but they also draft well, add up for them when they got some, but they also draft well. Yeah, they just one of them, one of them teams that just they draft well and develop well. So like, I don't think they're too worried, they have their pillars. I don't think they're too really not on a backup. Not on a backup? Nah, absolutely, absolutely, um. So, man, uh, I don't. I'm trying to think let's, let's, I guess we can start. In the afFC, east Bills didn't really do too much. They don't really have the money to do anything. Most of theirs is Pay Josh. Yeah, they pay Josh.
Speaker 2:I'm going to give you that money, and they got Josh Palmer too. That's about the only other person. Three years, $36 million from the Chargers yeah.
Speaker 4:Nothing to move the needle, because they're gonna have to figure out how to pay james cook, but that's another kind of situation.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, eventually. So, um, terrell bernard, I mean right, so they just extension. So, yeah, nothing, nothing really new. On the buffalo in miami they signed Zach Wilson the one-year deal as a backup. Nick Westbrook two years, 6.5. I mean they don't have a lot of money either. So Sean Davis one-year deal. Yeah, nothing crazy. With the Dolphins, new England has been spending a lot of money. That's because they have the most cap space in the league.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they have the most cap space. They're finally spending. Yeah, they have like 127 million yeah, milton Williams is.
Speaker 2:Just listen to this. Just think about New England. He is the highest paid New England patriot of all time wow.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean that's not saying much, though I mean you gotta think I mean I'm just saying dude that just lets you know. They just don't pay people no, I was gonna say, I mean the biggest name is Brady. Brady never took a huge contract, so I mean that's not surprising.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got Carlton Dayton, Milton Williams, re-signed Austin Hooper, and that's really it. They grabbed Joshua Dobbs on the two-year for a backup deal. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They'll be better than they was last year. Of course, the Jazz getting Justin Field. What do you all think about that Justin Field going to the Jazz? What does that do for them? I know we kind of talked about it in the chat a little bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I like it. I think it gives him an opportunity, obviously, but more than anything I think it helps Breece Holland. I think it's going to help Garrett. So I mean, when you got a quarterback back there that can run and can be an effective runner, I mean opens up bigger run lanes. You know you got to always respect him taking off and it'll help him in his passing if they put him under center and he can play well out of the play action and whatnot. It'll help him even in his path because the passing windows will be a little bit bigger for him. So I like it. I mean he's 25. So I mean, if you're the Jets, I mean the reality is if you hit on him, great, you got a franchise guy you know, 25 year old, that you can have, and if he sucks, you get a better QB class next year and you guys get opportunity to draft a quarterback, so I think it's a win.
Speaker 1:win for them Absolutely. He probably only has one year guarantee right one year guarantee, right, probably.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, it's 40, but I'm pretty sure 30, 30 is fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4:Uh, 15 million dollar signing bonus with five million dollar basis. So one year, so one year deal yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not crazy. He's getting most of the money up front yep one year deal. Yeah now, I agree, I think, like um we was talking about in chat just now well, I was, and I think you're talking. You're talking about somebody else but, like you said, somebody who can move that, like I said, you can be creative with the playbook. Um, he's not a statue and even if the offensive line isn't any better than they was last year, like I guess that's something justin field is kind of accustomed to yeah, unfortunately, which is sad to say you know what I mean, yeah um, but yeah, yeah, so, and is AFC North really, I mean your Ravens, of course?
Speaker 2:we talked DeAndre Hopkins. You predicted that One year, $6 million. They bring back Ricard on a free agent deal and then, of course, Stanley's resigning three years, $60 million. I mean you got to kind of keep what y'all got, Like you said, y'all just don't have the cap space to really do much.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't have resigned Stanley, but that's another conversation. Why not? Most people forget, after they signed him the first time, he stayed hurt most of that first contract, the big contract he got. He stayed healthy most of last year. I just don't trust his health. So I mean, I think it is a left tackle. But let's just move on from Laramie Tunzel, who's a little bit younger and you know is a reason sometimes I wish he was on one hand, because why he still has value.
Speaker 4:I think, being back to talking about that, jared, sometimes you got to move on from a player why he still has value.
Speaker 5:A left tackle, though I didn't think teams ever gave left tackles.
Speaker 4:Could it be a year early? Yeah, but ultimately, I mean, if you can find somebody to fill that void, it works. And the only reason why I say like, for example, baltimore can get away with it because you got a special talent than Lamar back there. You know what I'm saying? Cj, I was a little bit more shocked because, I mean, he struggled this year mainly because they couldn't protect him. So Buddy didn't have no time. I mean, they just had crazy injuries this year anyway, but he didn't have no time. So I was a little bit more shocked by the Tumzel, humzel, stanley. I just, I don't know, it's one of those things where it's like I'm not saying it's a terrible signing. I just thought that maybe they would see if there was anything else out there to, you know, to help, you know, fill that void. Maybe it would.
Speaker 2:So yeah, standing in the AFC North though the Browns. I mean they get Kenny Pickett, who knows what he's going to be Resigned Myle Garrett and Joe Tyron I cannot say his last name, I think he was with Tampa Bay last year. He signs in one year. Another edge rusher to put out there with Myles Garrett Not bad, but not crazy. Pittsburgh Steelers of course they get DK Metcalf, but still don't know who their quarterback is going to be. Dk Metcalf, but still don't know who their quarterback is going to be. I guess you're just really kind of sitting with Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson oh, russell Wilson, I mean, which Wilson didn't play horrible for y'all last year? And I think if you get Aaron Rodgers I don't think the play falls off or is tremendously better.
Speaker 4:But they still got offensive line issues. That's my whole thing, so therefore, yeah I don't think either one of them is a great fit per se, uh, which is why I think they really wanted to keep justin fields, so I mean, but I think also justin fields didn't want to be somewhere where potentially somebody breathing down his neck too, I mean oh, no, no.
Speaker 4:No, I don't blame justin fields for leaving, because I think he got a clear cut shot to be a starter in New York. I think the situation last year probably left a bad taste in his mouth with Russ. I didn't realize. I thought Russ in them was better, but I saw something today that said that he was like five and six, or six and five for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5:They finished the season real slow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think I realized that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, I don't think I realized that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 5:I realized that I think they lost like four or five in a row.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I think so.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't think I realized that. I don't think I realized that that tastes bad.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, it won't show me. But yeah, no, I agree, yeah, they fell off towards the end of the season. They actually I mean, but yeah, no, I agree, yeah, they fell off towards the end of the season. They actually I mean fields was what? Four and two in six games. And I mean you acquire somebody like DJ Metcalf, and Metcalf was kind of complaining about not knowing what direction the team was going to go in when somebody was going to throw him the ball. Now you go to a team. Literally you have no quarterback, you don't know who's going to be throwing you the ball.
Speaker 3:He also said he wanted to go to a warm weather team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, warm weather team, yeah, yeah, that too. Yeah, like do you go to Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4:I don't understand that, signing honestly and I definitely wouldn't have gave him no, five years, 150.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not a chance. I don't know man. I don't know man. It's like they lack big plays and it's kind of like who do you blame? Is it the coaching, where you're already changed after coaching? Is it the QB not pushing the ball downfield? Well, you got Russell Wilson, who was probably one of the best deep balls in the league. And then it's like do you blame the receivers? Like, are they not getting separation Like you done? Rotated so many receivers in and out. You know what I mean. It's like apparently they think it's the receivers, like hey look, we need somebody, we need two big guys on the outside who you can't double one or the other, it's somebody opposite of Pickens, because I mean eventually it's like all right, we ain't got to guard nobody else.
Speaker 3:I mean Pickens is your threat, but you know he's also sometimes you know he don't run hard to be getting the ball, so you can kind of tell sometimes he kind of keys off when he might not be the focal point of the offense and then if ain't nobody else getting open. So I mean it helps to have a DK, because at least you know one DK is going to run hard every play and he's going to bust ass every play and I've seen enough 49ers see all his games and know like he's not going to slack off. But it is going to open up things for pickers at least. Now who's going to throw the ball is also going to be important in that, because one thing got time to throw the ball off.
Speaker 3:The offensive line is still trash. It's not gonna make a difference. But if you don't pick the right person it still ain't gonna do much. I mean it took and rogers probably more than half the season to kind of figure out how to throw to both adams and wilson right, and you ain't got time to wait a half a season if you're in pitt.
Speaker 2:Just figure that out. Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Speaker 4:My thing that I think that was interesting too is Pittsburgh. I mean, for as long as I can remember, they're probably the best or one of the best teams I've seen at developing receivers. So that was another reason I was a little bit more shocked by them going out. I mean I go all the way back to like when Hans Ward was there. I I mean I go all the way back to like when Heinz Ward was there. I mean you go, you can go down those years of, I mean from the Mike.
Speaker 4:Wallace's and so on and so on. Like they get Antonio, like they develop receivers. So this was a little bit more shocking to me more than anything, especially with paying that kind of bread for him. But, I mean, I get you know, like I said, everything he said was 100 percent right. I just still was surprised by the fact that they did that.
Speaker 3:But with the exception of Hines.
Speaker 3:Go ahead Because I can't think of who Hines' other receiver was. They usually had two really good receivers, like when Antonio Brown was there he had Juju and Martavius Bryant when you know he wasn't smoking weed there. He had Juju and Martavius Bryant when he wasn't smoking weed. So I mean it was usually like you had somebody who could kind of take the pressure off the other guy. And they haven't had that in a couple of years. I mean I guess you want to say they changed Claypool but he kind of fell off fairly quickly.
Speaker 3:So I mean this kind of gets them maybe back to that, but your QB is going to be a huge factor in that too. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:Definitely agree, can I?
Speaker 4:ask you all a quick question, though, while we're in the AFC North.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:If you're the GM, who are you taking with the number two pick? If you're the Browns, Hmm.
Speaker 2:Oof, I mean you kind of got.
Speaker 4:Let's just assume everybody's here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you kind of got your QB room because you traded and got Pickett and you keep him. Deshaun Watson, you haven't done anything with him outside of restructuring his contract to free up money. So I don't think you go QB but you need something. I don't think you go QB like, but you need something.
Speaker 3:I don't know you didn't trade for him.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't think it was. I don't, I mean, I think it's one more year but next year yeah, if it's through.
Speaker 3:Next year, you can still take a QB like this you could next year? Yeah, yeah, could still take a.
Speaker 4:PP, you could.
Speaker 2:You might need a PP next year?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, but why bring in a, are you?
Speaker 3:taking one at two Because it's Kenny. Pickett, that's why.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I mean it is Kenny Pickett, but it's like but are you?
Speaker 4:taking one at two, though that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 5:Maybe Travis Hunter that.
Speaker 2:Maybe Travis Hunter. That's what I was about to say. You probably almost have to take Travis Hunter to give you kind of an option to put somebody on defense or offense, depending on what you feel like you need throughout the rest of the draft. Whatever you, you know what I mean. Yeah, Depending on how the draft goes, you can kind of be like all right, we're going to need you at DB or we can need you at receiver.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was thinking about him, or the kid from Penn State, if he only won. Abdul Carter, yeah, abdul Carter. Oh yeah, to pair him with Miles.
Speaker 2:But did you, like I said, you just got, I mean, which, like I said, it's only a one-year deal, but you just grabbed the guy from Tampa too. So it's kind of like you're trying to build that front line, yeah he only won a year. That don't mean nothing.
Speaker 4:Not if somebody with that kind of talent is available. You don't care who you just got.
Speaker 2:They might just get him. They may just go that route. I don't see him. I mean that wouldn't be a horrible pick, that wouldn't be the worst pick.
Speaker 4:Hey, is this crazy to say Now this is just throwing something out. There a reason why I asked? Because? The reason why I ask? Because now you're hearing all the rumors about Shador in the draft. Supposedly you know they're talking about teams ain't sold on them. What would you say if you saw something crazy, like Travis Hunter too? Then they jump back in the first round and grab Shador at the end of round one.
Speaker 2:Shoot. That wouldn't be done.
Speaker 4:That wouldn't be done. They have an early second round pick, so they're just moving up a couple spots just to make sure they got him. I said I could see something like that happening though. So they're staying paired in Cleveland, and then I'm going to go ahead and say this I know it's a conspiracy in my head Then their coach gets fired next year and Deion ends up in Cleveland.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't be dumb at all. I don't think. If that happens, I think you can see Coach gets fired next year and Deion ends up in Cleveland. Wouldn't be dumb at all.
Speaker 4:I don't think. If that happens, I think you can see the right number. So if all that happens, hey, if all that happens, y'all, make sure y'all pull this tape up, be like y'all know who said it.
Speaker 5:I got you.
Speaker 2:I mean but why not Like the Browns? I think we've been talking about this any time we bring up the Browns. Their front office has been horrible. They've drafted horrible, they develop horrible, they put out some of the worst contracts. They've acquired some of the worst talent, like they haven't done anything really right, I mean outside of you know, I think what two years they was competing in the AFC North Like and think it was two years they was competing in the AFC North Like and then it's like they fall off for five Like you may get one good year every three or four years out of them Like.
Speaker 4:I was going to show you, though, how one bad contract like Watson's can get your franchise back for years.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So like I mean that wouldn't be the worst thing. I mean I forgot their coach's name, stephane, stephane, wouldn't be the worst thing. I mean, uh, forgot the court, uh, their coach's name. Yeah, I mean he's, he's had, I mean he's had a long leash, he's been there a minute, like so, to get rid of him and go that route.
Speaker 4:Like I don't think dion says no, but yeah but even though a stupid amount of money, I mean I mean, if he had a chance to coach both of them, it's an automatic yeah. In my opinion, I think it's a no-brainer. He'll end up in the NFL to coach both of them, yeah, and then watch. They'll mess around and draft Shiloh in the fifth, sixth round.
Speaker 3:That's how you do it. That's how you really get it Yep, yep.
Speaker 2:So then he get his, you know, get his boys in in the nfl. Yeah, he'll be there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, um you know what man that's brilliant. I'm I'm sure they're looking. No, I'm not sure they're looking at it, but they should no they should do it, why not?
Speaker 4:I don't know because obviously I think travis hunter's gonna be there at two, so it's an option you know what I'm saying is definitely an option.
Speaker 2:I mean now we're jumping into the AFC South. What does Tennessee do? They've been quiet in free agency. I mean O-line men, d-line men, they need everything. I don't know.
Speaker 5:I think they will trade back.
Speaker 4:Yeah, trade to pick Because they got too many holes. They need so much. Yeah, they need way too much.
Speaker 5:They need everything.
Speaker 4:Yeah, trade that back to somebody who won't Cam Ward. So, whether the Giants want to move up and grab him or whoever, you go ahead and drag to three or whatever. And, yeah, grab some additional assets and keep it moving.
Speaker 3:Pay a season away from open trials in the city.
Speaker 4:Facts.
Speaker 2:Facts and everybody who wants to play just come on Yep, a lot of open trials. Yeah, because I mean they grabbed the offensive lineman Dan Moore. Like I said, they re-signed the defensive lineman, joseph Day.
Speaker 4:Cody Burton.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. They haven't done anything in free agency.
Speaker 4:There's only been about three teams that do anything in free agency.
Speaker 2:Yeah, houston anything in free agency. There's only been about three teams that do anything in free agency. Yeah, houston, texas man, what do we think going on in Houston?
Speaker 4:They better get their offensive line together. For real, for real.
Speaker 2:They've only signed one offensive lineman, Lake Thomason, but that's a one-year deal.
Speaker 4:And they've traded two. Yeah, they better get offensive linemen.
Speaker 2:All they've been doing is receivers and defense. That's all they've been doing. I mean, they got Gardner Johnson, of course, in trade. But, they got to have.
Speaker 4:That would actually be a nice little matchup. With him and Jalen Petrie at the safety position, that actually is a nice little one too. But again, they better get offensive linemen.
Speaker 2:They haven't done anything on offense outside of receivers Justin Watson, christian Kirk. Of course they got in the trade and Burrios Braxton Burrios, one-year deal, that's really it. They haven't done anything. So again, they got to do something with that offensive line. I mean, while you have the money to do so and you don't want your young quarterback to be getting hurt or running for his life. That's not something that CJ Stroud is doing. He can, he shows that he's capable, but that ain't something that's not his game.
Speaker 4:Your brother had no time to get settled last year. No, that was crazy, that's why it's so funny to me when people said he regressed. I'm like he didn't regress, Things around him just got real bad.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, I thought they had a good season. Man, they had some.
Speaker 4:You know, I didn't have any injuries, I mean you got Almost all they got three, three receivers, three receivers, yeah, they lost them all.
Speaker 2:So I mean offensive line was two and still made the playoffs Right in the AFC South. Yeah, yeah, because I mean nobody's competing. I mean you can look at the offense. I mean at the free agency signage. Nobody's doing nothing in the AFC South and most of them have money and they still ain't doing nothing. I mean even Jacksonville, I mean rounding out the end of the AFC South. I mean Eric Murray, like Nick Mullins, like nobody, like Hunter Long, like nobody. I mean they're not even doing anything, but they really don't have the money either after paying what's it called, so they got to pay Trevor 55.
Speaker 4:What I said earlier. If you go, look at the Patriots, look at the Bears, look at the Commanders, when your quarterback is on the rookie contract, that is when you spend it. None of them did that. None of them did a good job of building around them quarterbacks when they had the nice, easy contracts to be able to do it. Be honest, even my guy Jared's team, the Bengals, they didn't do it. Teams don't do a good enough job of doing that and taking advantage of that. So then when you do got to pay these crazy contracts, you fucked.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because if you can't draft and according to you, jared, which you're right, they don't draft. Well, you're done.
Speaker 5:You're done. It's a death sentence. Man.
Speaker 2:Yep, I agree. Moving on to the AFC West, denver man.
Speaker 4:I like what they're doing.
Speaker 2:I like what they're doing Jared Stenum, matt Pearl, reeson, lyman, greenlaw and Hufanga. So that was on the defense. That was already tough last year.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, one of the best, very tough last year Passer-tang the second.
Speaker 5:That boy cold hey.
Speaker 2:He's one of my favorite football players. And then you put Hufanga back. There too, no, hufanga, hufanga got to stay healthy.
Speaker 3:No, Hufanga stay healthy, Hufanga stay healthy.
Speaker 2:But I mean assuming they're equal, but still like.
Speaker 3:Hufanga.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's going to be crazy. Kansas City man.
Speaker 4:Better fix their offensive line. That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 2:They signed a tackle and a guard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Moore and Trey Smith Franchise that was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Trey Smith was there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Right, right right, nick Bolton re-signs back. I mean Christian Fulton from the Chargers. That was a good sign and they needed another good corner. But again, like you, you said you got to fix that old line. But kansas city, they the ones they tend to wait and grab the grab. Uh, decent guys on discount like they're not the guys, they're not going to go after the high price guys right away hey, they don't have the money. But b they tend to like wait and you know, figure out who they can get the best out of the other leftovers. What about the Raiders man, gino Smith? Does that work?
Speaker 4:I think so.
Speaker 2:For how big he plays Gino's not bad. No, no, no, and you have some rapport with him too. So you know he kind of knows the offense and what they're kind of going to run and it gives them flexibility at six.
Speaker 4:Now they can do whatever they want at six. So now you're not desperate to try to make a move or anything for a quarterback. You can Don't get a playmaker.
Speaker 2:You can go get a receiver. That's probably, if I had to think. Probably one of their biggest needs is a receiver. Oh for sure, yeah, yeah, go get you an LSU guy. That was crazy dude. We put that together. I think you put out that thing when they were talking about what receiving corps from what state you would take.
Speaker 1:Like LSU was like.
Speaker 2:Louisiana was crazy. I wasn't even close, it wasn't even close. But yeah, you go out there and get you a receiver. I think they'd be cool. They got Alex Cabrera to sign a two-year deal decent offensive lineman. You get Crosby back and the defense was already decent, but they kind of bring in some more guys on defense too, and you got Tom Brady pulling the strings in the background.
Speaker 2:So let's see if he know what he doing and Brock pulling the strings in the background. Let's see if he knows what he's doing. Bryce Browns might be legit man. Yeah, we'll see and dig out Chargers man You're getting.
Speaker 5:Najee Harris. I like that. I like that too. That was a good pick up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think he's going to be real nice behind that offensive line.
Speaker 2:You bring Khalil Mack back on the one-year deal 18 mil um Dante Jackson. I mean Elijah Molden, nobody really crazy. But what do they need? They played good last year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I would say, another receiver. Yeah, they still got to get at least one, and they really need a tight end too yeah, but I think I think the market was kind of flooded with decent receivers.
Speaker 2:So I don't think you, like you said, you ain't got to jump out there right now. I think you can kind of wait and grab some guys.
Speaker 4:I think, guys, that could have really made a difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but again they paid their quarterback.
Speaker 4:So you kind of like yeah, but Herbert didn't get the money.
Speaker 5:I would try to go get Stephon Diggs and see what he wants. That's what.
Speaker 2:I would do. Yeah, I like that, I like that. But then coming off that injury, those guys always tend to get picked up last.
Speaker 3:But you also pay them less.
Speaker 2:in that situation too, Right, no, that's what I'm saying. I think the teams that don't really have the cap, like you said, that paid their QB. They're kind of sitting back like all right, we'll just wait these guys out. Do you got somebody like a Cooper Cup, who's probably going to be released in the next day or two, that you can bring in? Veteran still got a little bit of tread on the tire sled. I can see Cooper Cup on here. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Because Cooper Cup is in the same city Exactly. Nfc is man.
Speaker 4:Dallas Cowboys, man they're done too they're done too. You paid the quarterback, you paid the receiver. You ain't got nothing else there in Dallas. I don't see anything.
Speaker 2:I don't see nothing new. Yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 4:They gotta pay Parsons Yep.
Speaker 2:They got to pay. You really can't do nothing yeah.
Speaker 4:They're done. They need to trade Diggs. Yeah, happened. And they have no offensive line. They just lost their best offensive lineman who retired. Like they're in trouble Like nah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they got a whole bunch of money wasted on a bunch of randoms. Yep I mean I'm just saying, like I just don't, I don't know the guy, like there's no, no, you're right.
Speaker 4:You're right because they haven't done anything like they paid them, but then they didn't produce.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, so yeah, yeah, uh, new york giants, I mean kind of the same thing.
Speaker 4:I like what they're doing though?
Speaker 2:Yeah, kind of keeping their guys in place. There's a little Slayton signs back with them, the veto right now, but they're probably going to grab somebody, either in a draft or free agencies.
Speaker 4:But didn't they pick Colin at safety?
Speaker 2:Yep Jermon Hines, that was a good pickup, Yep.
Speaker 4:A real good pickup for them, and they got people keep forgetting they lost their left tackle. I don't know real early in the season last year Andrew Thomas, who's real good when he's healthy and that'll help a lot with that offensive line too. So obviously they still ain't got no quarterback though.
Speaker 2:Right, but they pick up james hudson. He a little older, but I mean he agrees to a two-year offensive tackle, that'd help yep no, that'd definitely help. So they're definitely addressing what they need and I feel like you're going to the draft especially. You know where they're picking that and you kind of, you kind of maybe, like you said, jump up and if the titans are willing to trade that, jump up and grab.
Speaker 4:I think that happens. Honestly, I think that's what ends up happening. I don't think the Giants want like a Russell Wilson. I think they want the Aaron Rodgers, for whatever reason they want him.
Speaker 3:But if that doesn't happen, they can't get him.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely, absolutely. Philly again very quiet. They don't have the money or the space to really do anything right now. They've already locked in their main guys and they'll draft well and fill in the gaps. They get Laramie Tunzel. That's got to be good for them. Javon Kinlaw you keep Bobby Wagner, solid vet, in the middle. I like what they're doing too. Zach Hurts wasn't bad for them last year, and then you bring in John Bates also, so that's two decent tight ends. Yeah, I think commanders show last year they're heading in the right direction and this offseason they're doing the same thing. Like you got your rookie quarterback and they're bringing in guys to surround them vets, guys that know what they're doing, and I think they'd probably be still one of the best teams in the NFC next year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean I can definitely see them taking another step for sure. Afc North man. I mean, I can definitely see them taking another step for sure. Afc North man. Chicago Bears man what y'all think about the Bears right now?
Speaker 4:I like what they doing. Built that offensive line Interior. That offensive line Caleb was getting crushed last year, so I like it.
Speaker 2:I like it, they grab, I do.
Speaker 4:Because they got yeah oh boy From the coast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, over dingo, yeah, oh, I cannot say his name, oh, I'm not gonna even try. They go. They got dale from the coast, so I like him, I mean productive. They got buddy right, right buddy from the coast. Uh, grady jarrett dt from, uh atlanta sign with them too yep, so I think that'll be good. I mean, like you said, shoring up that defense and that offensive line. They got weapons. I mean you got your QB. This is the time to shore up those positions. Detroit Lions super quiet.
Speaker 4:They don't have the money. They got their quarterback and the receiver.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got all their pillars and stuff. I mean they'll run it back. Basically Green Bay, same thing, not really doing too much. They'll run it back Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4:I like what they've done.
Speaker 2:Aaron Jones comes back. You get Will Fries from the Colts he was solid and Ryan Kelly from the Colts. So you got two players offensive linemen who've played together, so that'll help with some chemistry on the offensive line. You get Jonathan Allen.
Speaker 4:Yep right there.
Speaker 2:That was real good. Byron Murphy re -signs with him. That was good. And then you've filled a safety position that was vacated by Bynum with Theo Jackson, so that's not a bad signing. But I think the Vikings are still in the same position they are they was in. I mean turning up the line.
Speaker 4:We'll see what's the boy they drafted last year quarterback.
Speaker 2:McCarty.
Speaker 4:McCarty, we'll see what he's about though, Because I will say you know as one knows don't get me wrong, o'connell's a good coach, but I think anytime you got a young quarterback like that you know, only time will tell when you get in them games to see how he reacts and how he plays. Because I don't know. I guess how would you feel if you know, because what they won like 13, 14 games last year, right.
Speaker 4:So they do that 14, and then let's just say they miss the playoffs. You know that's, I don't know. Again, not saying that that'll happen, but just curious, like, does that put that coach on the high seat? Because you know, in the field man, they trip real quick on coaches. They do.
Speaker 2:But the only reason why I say I don't think so is because you got a rookie quarterback coming in off of an injury. You know what I mean. He's missed a whole rookie season, um. But I just think with that team, like I don't think you missed the playoffs, uh, you may not win 14 games, but I still think you can compete in the nfc, uh, for a playoff spot, only because of what you had, yeah, oh, absolutely, absolutely. You probably don't win the division. I don't see that. Just like you said, said the Bears are getting better, the Lions were already there, green Bay was already there. Like I don't think you're getting worse, but I mean you got to think JJ beat him out in you know what I mean in the offseason last year, so he must have been playing well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:They said did you hear? They said that actually didn't happen. They said darn it was gonna start it wasn't like they just said jj had played well enough where they felt comfortable he had to play oh, okay.
Speaker 2:well, I mean, even if that's the case, then I mean this year shouldn't be no different, and he had a year to sit back and kind of watch how the offense is supposed to be run too, with no pressure, if you're going to have somebody to throw to, I mean the receiver core you got the guys. Jj Addison and Hockinson that's what I was going to say Hockinson, Jefferson.
Speaker 3:He's set up for success. At least he's not successful.
Speaker 2:A good downhill running back. You got Jones back there, they showing up the offensive line. Like I said, I don't see the Vikings going backwards. Like I said, 14 games is tough for Ricky to win. But I mean, even if you double digits, I think you still in a good spot If you can win 10, I don't see the Vikings not missing the playoffs in 10. It's not in the NFC. Nfc South Atlanta's not doing anything because they ain't got no money. Panthers what y'all think about what they've been doing? They've been bringing in guys, no big names. I mean JC Horn gets a huge contract.
Speaker 4:Didn't understand that Buddy never can stay healthy, but that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2:You know what I actually almost forgot he was there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because he's never healthy.
Speaker 2:I was like when they said JC Horn, when they announced the contract like one of the highest paid DBs, I'm like where's he? Been at All this Carolina talk.
Speaker 2:He has not been in the conversation at all. So that kind of threw me off. So like they kind of doing they shoring up the defense, but I mean they have nothing on offense and they're not even trying. Nope, you have no receivers. Nope, like none. You have a rookie QB, you re-sign Andy Dalton, but you get no receivers. Still, like in a very receiver heavy free agency, like, yeah, that's kind of weird to me, but carolina's been carolina, so, um, we'll see how that goes. Saints, another team, don't really have a bunch of money on blue money, on a bunch of mediocre people. Yeah, I mean, outside of Justin Reed and Chase Young, I mean there's no notable names.
Speaker 5:I was surprised Chase Young got all that. That was crazy yeah three-year 51.
Speaker 4:Jared. The only reason why I said because I actually wanted Baltimore to go after him the only reason why I think he's getting that kind of money is because he's still so damn young. Yeah, and kind of money because he's still so damn young. Yeah, you still can see the potential, like he still kind of flashes it at times, but like obviously he hadn't lived let me see.
Speaker 2:Let's see what he. What did he do last year?
Speaker 4:I don't think a whole bunch of nothing but, he, he was pretty disruptive at times, though, yeah, he didn't uh, 21 to sacks.
Speaker 2:He had five and a half. Yeah, he, yeah, he didn't really do much last year.
Speaker 4:To Jerry's point he wasn't that way. He didn't give you that contract?
Speaker 2:No, I mean he hasn't had more than seven and a half sacks since his rookie season. So you know he's been hurt. But yeah, 22 sacks in four years, yeah, and did you get 5151 million? That's crazy. But I mean, hey, it's the Saints man. They've been giving out bad contracts for years now. So just add him to the list. But hopefully, like you said, with him being young, hopefully he can bounce back. But that's a lot of money as a prove-it deal. Tampa Bay another team strapped for money. But they bring Godwin back. Vontae David just don't want to leave. But they get Hussein Reddick on the one year. I mean at one point they retire, they cut him, then he comes back. He's going to be a Buccaneer forever, but Hussein Reddick signs a one-year deal, kind of a proven deal for him. He's kind of been stuck in limbo.
Speaker 5:How much is that one?
Speaker 2:It's one year, $14 million, nothing crazy. I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 5:Jerry, I already know.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 5:Hello.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, you could have easily probably paid that.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, because the Bengals have some cash base.
Speaker 2:So yeah, but you're sitting there with two receivers. Like I said, I just think they're just really working on getting those receiver contracts done. No, they're not. I think they're what else is you doing, then they're talking about the Bengals.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they're probably jacking off or something.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know, I'm trying to give them the benefit, I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it's like no.
Speaker 3:Ain't no way they're paying people, yep Right here.
Speaker 5:Hey, bro, we're going to mess this up. No doubt about it.
Speaker 2:Hey, nfc West man, arizona Cardinals, I mean not too much.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:Briss, yeah, not too much. I mean brissette, zay jones, I mean re-signs, re-signs. Josh sweat, that's decent, but maybe overpaid. Maybe overpaid, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe overpaid. Four years, 76, 40 million, 41 guaranteed. That may just be, like I said, overpaid, but we'll see rounds. Browns, bring in Jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy.
Speaker 5:Jimmy, jimmy.
Speaker 2:Jimmy.
Speaker 3:Jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy.
Speaker 2:Jimmy.
Speaker 4:Jimmy, jimmy.
Speaker 2:Jimmy.
Speaker 5:Jimmy, jimmy.
Speaker 2:Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. You get Devontae Adams, bring Artwell back. But I think they again offensive line help and I think it's just a real thing. That line was solid, though you think so.
Speaker 3:Run blocking especially.
Speaker 2:Run blocking but. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Even they pass blocking. It was pretty solid.
Speaker 3:Stafford doesn't hold the ball too long either.
Speaker 4:No, yeah, but I mean don't get wrong. I think every team can use some offensive line helping the league period um, you know, but I think I'll say this I don't think they were near the bottom of the league in terms of their offensive line at all. I would say probably middle to top half of the league for their offensive line.
Speaker 2:So um, san francisco again. Another team kind of money strapped, got rid of a lot of guys. Can't really bring much in because you know they about to pay your mans.
Speaker 4:And they going to be toast too. Yep, I said it.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm not worried about what you say, because we've seen this before. It's the thing about this so the Eagles actually did the same exact thing. They actually won their Super Bowls when they were doing it. But they have been putting I honestly think that's where we got it from it's actually putting this money in these four years, all of this time, and they've done it twice and a lot of teams just don't know about it. I mean, they were technically doing this back when they won the Super Bowl with Foles. They had their kind of down year and then they got Hurts and surrounded him before they paid him and I mean, I kind of feel like this is just the point, like when they do like you're here, like this is where we are now, like we're going to have to pay Purdy.
Speaker 3:One thing we haven't had in the last 10 years is an abundance of picks. We've got like 15 picks now. Yeah, true. So I don't want to say we're rebuilding. I don't think we're going to be terrible. I actually think we're a better team when people don't expect us to be good. I think the best years that we had is like, I mean, when we made that run to the Super Bowl in 2020, we weren't expected to be good at all. We made the initial run with Kaepernick. We weren't expected to be good in those years, and those are the times that we've shined.
Speaker 1:Now.
Speaker 3:I would have wanted to keep Greenlaw, especially Ward. I understood. I mean, honestly, I think a lot of that might have been what he went through and what he lost. Yeah, they probably just wanted to change the scenery in general. There was a lot of these guys that I knew we wouldn't give back.
Speaker 3:I'm not 100% worried about losing Juice. I think he was a good guy to have, especially when it came to run blocking. We used him a lot less over the last year, year and a half, than we did when we initially got him. I mean, he had been there since 2017. So, I mean, the biggest thing that I'm worried about is linebackers. I think that right now, we're trying to address up front and get somebody to help Bosa. We'll see if that happens or not. But I mean we let Hufanga go because we had Mustafa, who took off last year, and we were able to let Ward go because we actually did have, we actually found some decent receivers. I love D'Amato, Lenore and he with the shit he going to talk, trash the entire game and he going to lock you up. I absolutely I would love to have him and Traveris Ward on the other side, but I mean, Green didn't do bad. You know kind of filling in when Ward was out and we got a lot of guys who were getting probably a lot of snaps that they weren't supposed to get because we had people out who you can take into next year, who we're not paying that much money to, Then added picks on top of it.
Speaker 3:I'm not worried about the receiving core either. I'm pretty sure I've been two for two in the last two years telling y'all which receiver was going to break off. Pearsall is going to be the next one. Just like I said, Juwan Jennings was going to be probably our best receiver last year. I said it was going to be BA the year before that. I'm stepping Pearsall right now because I like what I saw with him at the end of the year and before he hit and we still got Kittle who quietly had a really good year as a Titan last year and didn't get nowhere near as many balls thrown to him as he had been getting in the pass and still abused that blocking, Picked up another, at least catching tight end.
Speaker 3:I think that we can kind of use Luke Farrell yeah, who can? I don't know how he does in run blocking, but I know he's a decent pass catcher. But I do want us to adjust the offensive line as well. I mean, like I said, Justin, everybody needs offensive line help. If we can get the offensive line, we should be set Put a tender on Jordan Mason so if somebody does want to pay him more money than we offering, we get a second round pick from that. We're setting ourselves up to kind of get back up there. I'm not going to say we're going to be in the Super Bowl, but I would still be relatively surprised if we miss the playoffs again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially with those picks. Y'all draft well, develop well. Y'all just another one of those teams that draft well and develop well. John Lynch has been doing a phenomenal job.
Speaker 3:And my cousin was like y'all traded Debo for a fifth and I'm like, honestly, a lot of our best players were fifth-round picks. Greenlaw was a fifth-round pick, Funga was a fifth-round pick. There's so many of our players who ended up shining, who were not first, second and third-round picks.
Speaker 2:It's almost like we draft better as the rounds go on, but good teams and good juniors Last pick of the draft, so having picks is important to me.
Speaker 4:I do got a question for you, though. Do you prefer San Fran, keep VA or trade?
Speaker 3:I actually thought we should have got rid of him last year. I think if we'd have let him go last year, we could have resigned some of these guys, but we got him. Now. I mean, I don't know when he's going to come back. If we'd have let him go last year, we could have resigned some of these guys, but we got him now. I mean, I don't know when he's going to come back, and that's probably the problem for me. I guess it depends on what we're going to get back for him. Like you know, we've got to get something of value. Another thing that I think and I'm just throwing this out there that I talked about is because when we were going to trade him, one of the people we were going to trade him for was Amari Cooper, who's still out there. I think if we go out and look at Amari Cooper and bring him in.
Speaker 3:That'll be a huge help. We keep him in that instance, but whatever's coming back is going to be more important to me. I don't think that because he's injured, we're going to get anything of good value back, so at this point you might as well keep him, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was probably the most solid analysis of a team we've had so far. And last but not least, man Seahawks. Man, they bring in Sam Darnold, of course that's really all they got money for?
Speaker 1:Okay yeah.
Speaker 2:That's really all they got money for. Okay, yeah, that too. So I mean they kind of starting a new regime up there. So I kind of figured that Geno Smith would be out the door eventually. But I mean, because the contracts they were offering was similar, I just think they were done with Geno at that point. Nah, they didn't want to give him the money.
Speaker 4:I just think they were done with Geno at that point. Nah, they didn't want to give him the money.
Speaker 2:I heard that. What did he sign for with the Raiders? I could have swore to the contract.
Speaker 3:Was it one team?
Speaker 4:Yeah hold on. Darnold signed with the Seahawks for three for one team.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm thinking about. Yeah, he haven't got his contract yet. Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Donald's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 4:Yeah yeah, geno still got a year or two left on his contract. So no, they didn't give Geno no money.
Speaker 2:I thought they had made. Oh, okay, okay, all right, well, man, that's it, man. We went through every team, man and the moves they made so far, what we thought was going to happen, man, final thoughts, man, about y'all teams.
Speaker 1:I did say I was going to come in here, you're going to suck forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was about to say you're going to be real quiet, man, what?
Speaker 5:you got man. You're going to suck forever. I'm already over the 2025 NFL season. I'm over it, bro. Just foolishness getting trolled by your team. It's an ugly feeling, bro. I ain't got nothing.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I'm the same thing, man. I mean we've, like I said, we've addressed a couple Spots on defense. Like I said, don't agree with the, with the, with the quarterback, bring in Indiana Jones, heard that don't like it. Um, yeah, he's definitely starting for y'all.
Speaker 5:I heard that Don't like it. Yeah, so he's definitely starting for y'all.
Speaker 4:He's definitely starting for y'all now.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't like it, but it is what it is. I mean we still got a long way to go.
Speaker 4:So yeah, Only thing I'm going to say is Baltimore has to consider trading.
Speaker 2:Marlon Humphrey and Mark Andrews.
Speaker 4:Man, we can use both of them cats and releasing Marcus Williams on the roster.
Speaker 2:They wouldn't do that.
Speaker 4:So no, obviously you know they ain't trading in the division, but it's just one of those things where they both got contracts that unfortunately you didn't pay. Lamar, you got to get some draft capital because they do a pretty good job drafting. Y'all got to get some draft capital to fill some of them other voids because you got Isaiah likely, so I mean he was really good for him last year.
Speaker 2:Problem is and the year before, when he was hurt.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the problem is and I've been saying this for the last two years Baltimore has yet to find a way in Todd Munkin's offense to put them both on the field where they both can be effective. It's one or the other, but y'all know I don't like Todd Munkin's offense, so that's nothing new, hey you knew, didn't y'all just get Buddy? Who Munkin?
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah from.
Speaker 4:Georgia two years ago.
Speaker 5:Yeah, damn, you don't like him either. Who was the guy you had before?
Speaker 4:Greg Roman. He's with the Chargers.
Speaker 5:You don't like him either did you Nah? Yeah, I'm the same. I don't care for any of my coaches either.
Speaker 4:Yeah, nah, it is who it is. I've actually said I know it wasn't popular I said probably about the same time, about two years ago or so, I said they probably really needed to consider moving on from hardball. They may just need a new voice in the. You know, I've been there forever, so they may just needed a new voice, but I get it. That's a big change. Um, problem is when you don't have enough creativity on the offensive side of the ball, because even again, with as great of a season as lamar had, I mean, he still has so much left in the tank that they just not they're not using, they're not taking advantage of and they're still doing the same dumb stuff of hey, lamar, be superman for us this week, like he shouldn't still have to be doing that. They, they should do a better job than what they have with surrounding with that talent. But I already told y'all they were gonna go sign an old vet versus actually getting a young bull to pair it with zay flowers on the outside.
Speaker 2:So that's no surprise and I think also too, like if you're going to do that move, now would be the time it's in the middle of of lamar's career, kind of sort of depending yep, uh, this would be the time to be like, all right, cool we. We, we've got mvps out on, we've made playoff runs, like we've kind of maximized ourselves with this staff.
Speaker 4:Like let's do a re-rack yep, yeah, but they ain't gonna do it. You know, I understand what you say, but yeah nah, I just don't see it. You know, I don't see it happening.
Speaker 5:I think I laughed at you saying that before on one episode. I don't know why that's so funny to me. The re-rack is crazy. But yep, yeah, man, like I guess why that's so funny to me the Rerack is crazy, but yep, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I guess we just heard about San Francisco, so I guess you ain't got to run that down again. Do they bring in Joey Bosa?
Speaker 3:That's what we're looking into. I think it's between us and Miami, the Cardinals, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm just looking at a video right now. That's really why I asked, because it said ideal fit for Joey Bosa. It says Niners or Cardinals.
Speaker 4:That's why I just yeah fit, yeah, but the Dolphins and Niners are the ones who are actually going after him, is what they say, the two. That is kind of down To me. That's an easy choice, though you go to the Niners. I don't know why anybody, but yeah. Well, not only that go play for a coaching staff. That's actually good, with Salah coming back especially.
Speaker 5:And you can probably give him the death row. Man, that's right, he is coming back, salah's back there at DC.
Speaker 4:That was bad yeah, like come to death row.
Speaker 3:That's nice. I did say I would confess something to DKX he's nice. I did say I would confess something to DKX. He got traded. I inherited the beef with the Seahawks. I do everything based off of fantasy. I refused to draft or trade for any Seahawk in the last 25 years. I would not draft or trade for any Seahawk in the last what's it 25? So I've been playing since 2010. 15 years I would not draft or trade for Eddie Seahawk just because of the thing that was on that team. It was one exception to that rule and that was Marshawn Lynch, but the nigga's name was Beast Mode and he would grab his nuts going into the end zone. I had to put him on my team. I have declined trades for crime title locket just because the niggas are Seahawks. I can say this over and over again Because all niggas are gone and they're going to be assed.
Speaker 2:I had to get that out by chance All right, man, I guess, if nobody else has anything else to say, man, I guess next week we'll be bringing y'all another free agency show. See who the rest of these guys, the remaining free agencies, go to.
Speaker 5:Lamar Chase and T Higgins will still be contractors. Nothing's going to change on our end. At this point I want to get Burrow out of there, free Joe Burrow, at this point, I feel the same wayrow out of there, free Joe Burrow, at this point.
Speaker 4:I feel the same way about Lamar bro.
Speaker 5:Free him. Yep, Let him go somewhere where he can actually get a chance to win man Right, I'm always football over team and bro at this point set Joe Burrow free so he can go.
Speaker 4:Be great, yeah, I agree, yep, that's very good of you to say man, I appreciate that Not a lot of fans.
Speaker 3:What's that? That's big of you to say and not a lot of fans would actually go there, I'm real with it, bro.
Speaker 5:I don't take that team stuff too. I just never have been that way. I've just never taken that team crap. Just overzealous People get on me about not hating Michigan. I can't do it. I can't do it. It is what it is. They're a fucking football team to me. That's it All right, man.
Speaker 2:With that being said, man, this has been the Epic Podcast man. We will see y'all next week. Go ahead and swear, you're here. With that being said, man, this has been the epic podcast man. We will see y'all next week. Go ahead and swear we hit that corner.