E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
Ohio State's Playoff Prospects and NFL Playoff Dynamics: Key Games, Quarterback Performance, and Coaching Challenges
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Speaker 1:happened. So I don't know what. The last thing nobody heard, but we're just talking about the power rankers in the NBA, oh wow, and a lot of teams competing right now as far as the records outside of Cleveland and OKC. We're going to jump into what we're really here for and what's really popping right now, which is NCAA. We've been away for a while, the playoffs is all done and we're just down right now to Ohio State and Notre Dame, which you're a fan of, ohio State. So I'm going to let you kick this off, man. Oh man, start wherever you want. I mean, if you want to start with the Texas game or go back further. Like I said, we done missed two weeks of college playoff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, we've been playing really well. I think you know, coming off that Michigan loss, it really ignited a spark in us. We hadn't been playing up to standard all season. I mean the real no Like. If you want to go back to the Nebraska game, we played like shit. That's the weekend after IU beat them like 56 to nothing or something like that. You know, I think we beat them by like three or six. It was a one-score game, it's just like. So I knew there we were in trouble. We played terrible against Iowa. We should have done some things differently against Akron. So all year was kind of like not really. I still don't think our quarterback is really all that great. He scares the living shit out of me. But we have been playing great.
Speaker 2:We hit our stride With this 12-team playoff. It ain't just went two games and you're a champion. It's a gauntlet and I think we should be applauded for the teams that we beat and the margins that we beat said teams by. But the job's not finished. I don't think anybody wants this championship on Monday more than I do. I feel like we need it.
Speaker 2:It's been a while since we were able to call ourselves champs, so like I'm just hoping we pull it out. I mean, I think we have a good shot at it. Like I said, all three teams we've beaten I would arguably say were better competition than Notre Dame. I mean, Notre Dame's a good team. I don't really see them as an extreme threat, but anything can happen With our quarterback. The mistakes he tends to make and just his lack of being a gamer could cost us if it came down to that. So yeah, man, I hope it's not going to be a good game. I hope we just run away with it or they just run away with it. I can't deal with no close nail biter. My heart can't take it.
Speaker 1:I think, after the blowouts we've been having the past couple years, I can't deal with no close nail biter. My heart can't take it. I think, after the blowouts we've been having the past couple years, I think everybody wants a really good game and I think this will be a really good game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I had no interest in it? I absolutely would want a good game, but I have too much interest in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense. But if you look at another game's path, I mean it wasn't the worst path. I mean you take out Indiana, then you take out Georgia, then you take out a real tough Penn State team who peaked at the right time, like it's like after that Ohio State loss.
Speaker 2:they just something switched on with them too, because their offense picked it up everything because we was like we really was talking about, like we didn't see what the hype was about Penn State.
Speaker 1:Penn State's been been whack really mediocre all year and then they just got to the play.
Speaker 2:Like I said after they played, I don't even, I don't, I don't even agree with that, like Penn State has been Penn State all year, like I. And then I feel like this is one I'm not right all the time but sometimes I'm right because I was. I told y'all a long time ago that I wasn't a believer in oregon. So even when they put up the kind of points that they did on oregon, I was kind of like I've been telling y'all oregon is not that good yeah, and, and I think with that, like I said, I knew that they weren't gonna beat ohio state twice, like not too many teams can beat Ohio State twice.
Speaker 2:That's just period In the top teams and then, even looking back on how they won the first game, it wasn't like we just it was a blowout.
Speaker 1:Right, it was still a closed game, but that's like. First two it was Oregon and there's the first Big Ten meeting of these two teams. You know what I mean. Of course it was going to be close because everybody's filling everybody out and you know y'all in Oregon for the first time. You know what I mean. Probably ever so, no, I get it. But again, like even playing field, like playing Ohio State, again, ain't too many teams going to beat them twice. We talked about Michigan. You know what I mean. If they play Right, you know, at least this year, but no exactly. And talking about Penn State, like it's kind of like Oregon and Penn State flipped. It was like Penn State played, you know, decent, most of the year to be ranked number one and like Penn State kind of skated through. Like I'm looking at some of these wins, like a Minnesota 26-25 win, even some of their.
Speaker 2:I think they played all three teams. Non-conference was from the MAAC.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bowling Green was 34-27. Even their loss to Notre Dame was only about three points.
Speaker 2:But you know, wait, penn State. Oh, wait a minute, did I. Nah.
Speaker 1:No, that's oh, oh, that's postseason. They showing, they showing from the postseason. They've moved it around. Normally it's at the bottom. Uh, my bad. And then you got Notre.
Speaker 2:Dame coming off, uh, you know, uh beating a Georgia team without their quarterback, so it's just like I feel like our wins have been more impressive. Of course, that doesn't mean anything. Uh, head to head, um, so we'll see of. Of course, you know where I'm at with it. Am I like, overly confident about us winning? No, do I think we can Do I think we should? Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1:But we'll see. Yeah, no, I think it's probably going to be, and I'm hoping that it's a really good championship game. Of course, I want Notre Dame to win, not only because they're an Indiana team, but you know black coaches, you know what I mean. Why the hell with that? Look how long it's been and a black coach has never been and or won.
Speaker 2:I couldn't get two Fs.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2:By this time, bro. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I know, I know I know About it this time, bro. I'm sorry, I know, but If y'all was to lose to Notre Dame, this wouldn't be like a I would be absolutely devastated.
Speaker 2:But then on the flip side of that, I mean our quarterback is not worthy of being a national championship quarterback. Like I still am not a Will Howard fan Not by any it makes me nervous. I feel like if Texas doesn't do that stupid play calling and blow that opportunity to tie the game up late in the fourth, we lose that game Because in a got-to-have-it situation Will Howard is not that guy. He's not that guy. So if we ever get to a situation where we got to have a score, I 100% don't trust Will Howard. So I mean, take that for what it's worth. Hopefully we can keep it to where it's a multi-score game, but if it comes down to one possession, give me Riley Leonard 40 times over Will Howard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it couldn't be because both of these defenses, like I said, both sides of the ball is peaking at the right time. Y'all playing great on both sides of the ball, especially on defense. And again, notre Dame, like they've been showing it, like even in the close game against Penn State, like their defense came up big and got a stop. I mean 31-14 on Boise State, which is probably, you know, one of the best running teams, if nothing else in the country. And then SMU, 38 to 10. Like, oh my gosh, I am still talking about Penn State, my bad Georgia defense holding them to 10 points and then even holding Indiana to 17, even though they only won by 10. But these are very good offenses, they have been very good offenses throughout the year. Even Georgia, you know, backup quarterback, like they still have been a good offense, but for their defense to show up, I think that's what's going to make this a good game, cause it's really going to. I think it's going to be a defensive game. I don't see this being a blowout one way or another.
Speaker 2:I hope it is.
Speaker 1:I don't. I hope it is, I don't. Oh, there is. So, but yeah, man, I'm looking forward to it. January 20th on ESPN 730. I can't wait, man. But then, after this, man, we in the NFL playoffs we got comments Brazil I don't know who that is, somebody talking about Brazil? Excuse me. So let's talk NFL playoff picture, man, even though neither one of our teams is in it Right now. Man, we got a. So I'll start with the most recent game Rams beating the Vikings. What is up with the Vikings, man? The past three games, man, they just I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think we've all been waiting on Sam Darnold to be Sam Darnold. Why it took this long and I know Justin would be on my team with this why it took so long, I have no idea. But even when seeing them win, I'm just like bro, this isn't. It's kind of how I feel about the Cavaliers and the Thunders. It's like it's too good to be true. I can't see this sustaining at all. I knew at some point Sam Darnold was going to be who we knew him to be. So I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:Luckily, they got something in the chamber anyway. So I think that makes their offseason decisioning a little easier. One, they're not going to have to overpay for Sam Darnold. Two, they don't even have to play Sam Darnold if they don't want or even have him on the roster at all, because they got JJ McCarthy. So as long as they're a believer in him. If, like, say, say, say, the Vikings go through to even the NFC championship, let alone the Super Bowl, then you got a complicated situation. You got JJ McCarthy, which you drafted high. You don't really know what he can do, but then you got a guy who took you almost to the promised land like that. That makes for a tough decision. Now I think their decision. And it's pretty cool if they just said you know what, we're just gonna try Jj. Nobody's gonna be like hey, you're, you're an idiot, because sam donald turned into sam donald later on, wrong time, yeah, so I agree with that.
Speaker 1:But I think I mean, yeah, with the vikings, with the way he played the past three games, I think that kind of may have put him on the. We can let him go test the market because somewhere like the giants or somebody will grab him, you know, I mean, if the price is right, especially with these last three games, the price he just lost some money, um, with winning 14 games, and you know what I mean like kind of pooping it up like yeah, in the playoff.
Speaker 1:So like that may have lost him some money, but I think he can go somewhere and start based on his performance. And I think you do just go with jj. You don't draft some, you don't draft a quarterback that high.
Speaker 2:No no, they're not drafting another quarterback.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying you don't draft one that high not oh, I see you know, and they're not. They're not planning, I'll get you. So I think he probably would have been the starter. I think they had Sam Darnold for exactly the situation that happened. He got hurt. You got somebody come in who's comparable.
Speaker 2:Veteran yeah veteran.
Speaker 1:So I don't think. I think it kind of can be up in the air Like if they want to give him a little more money just for insurance with JJ McCarthy. But I think somewhere we're offering more money to start even somewhere the Saints or the Raiders or somewhere like that somewhere to bring in a new coach and may want a new quarterback there too.
Speaker 2:Commanders and.
Speaker 1:Buccaneers man tight game. That was a good one. Yeah, 20-23, very good game. What are you banged up? Lions defense Jaden Daniels. We know what he can do.
Speaker 2:What do you think about that matchup next?
Speaker 2:week man, because the Lions got a ton of injuries and they just got a couple more. But the guys that they have still out there are flying around Like they're making it happen. So I don't know, like I don't know, they got a powerful offense. I don't know. I feel like it's an evenly matched. You know it's an evenly matched team. I mean evenly matched game between two evenly matched teams is what I should have said. I'm not sure I might bet Lions just for the hell of it, but I'm not really. I can't say that I'm confident in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think the Lions offense, even if their defense is kind of banged up, I think their offense is too overwhelming for the Commander's defense. If I had to say there's going to be a difference. Offensively, I mean the the commanders are very good, offensively, um, but I think if the lions kind of lock in and stop the run, uh, putting the ball up outside of terry mccurran like that dude's ridiculous yeah, he made like three crazy catches.
Speaker 1:Uh, the other day I was like what the uh? But then again they couldn't stop. Mike evans, on the other hand, you know, latimore just coming back from a hamstring injury. So you know they history with the saints, they uh, they be going at it man at each other's necks for the from the past five years.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think it may be a a shootout because I think both defenses could not show up possibly. But I think the Lions they offense just too much. With William St Brown Running backs I think Montgomery's supposed to be back off his knee injury, so they're going to have both backs with him and Gibbs Laporte I just think it's just going to be too much for their defense. But then again, if the Lions don't come out in the right mind frame on defense, hey, jaden Daniels can go crazy. We know what he can do. That's a fact. So, first playoff game I think Washington won in 13 years as a rookie.
Speaker 2:He looked good man. You know, I know all the well how good he is. He carved us up. We couldn't even force him to punt once the entire game. So yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:He didn't punt another game where he didn't punt this. They didn't punt this game either. Wow. I didn't even notice that. Yep, they didn't punt this game either, so I seen that stat pop up too while I was watching it. So yeah, man, they're gonna be. They're gonna be tough to follow um eagles, 22 packers 10. Um disappointing season for jordan love, or do you think he was fully healthy?
Speaker 2:I don't really know. And then down the stretch of that game, man, they, they're number one two and three receivers were hurt. It's kind of hard to you know, I don't know, man, they were injured. Christian Watson didn't play at all.
Speaker 1:Romeo Dobbs got hurt.
Speaker 2:J Henry went out, Dobbs went out. I mean, who's going to win without their number one, two or three?
Speaker 1:So I don't know. And they couldn't stop the run either. Yeah, I mean, but the thing is another thing about them.
Speaker 2:They. They actually didn't. I mean the eagles didn't really destroy them like that. I mean it was close for the most part.
Speaker 2:I mean the packers fumbled to open the kickoff, you know, and then the two picks yeah, the eagles go down and score a touchdown, so you're already behind the egg, you know. So you're already behind, you're already in the hole. Seven points just right out the kickoff. Not many teams can withstand that on the road in the playoffs. You know what I'm saying. So it's almost like that game was pretty much over before it really really legitimately got going. So I mean I'll cut them some slack for that.
Speaker 1:There has to be a loser.
Speaker 2:There has to be a winner. You know what I'm saying. There's one winner and one loser. They just happened to get the L. I still think they'll be back, they'll draft, they'll get some reinforcements. Get some guys back, healthy They'll be fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I agree with that too. Another question about the game.
Speaker 2:Do you think Jalen Hurts is 100%?
Speaker 1:good. That's just my personal. I just don't think he's great. Well, I don't think he's great, I think he's good.
Speaker 2:I don't think his performance was like oh well, he would have done way better than that If he was 100% healthy. I can't go there with it, I'm just not. I don't think Jalen Hurts is that good.
Speaker 1:I just noticed they weren't really pushing the ball down the field.
Speaker 2:I think what we got was a 100% healthy Jalen. I mean I didn't expect anything more from him. I mean, granted, I also didn't expect anything worse from him either, but I mean that's right on par for what I think Jalen Hurts is good for. Yeah, he can get the ball downfield, but if you take that away, he's just not that great of a quarterback to me. And I mean that goes back to the conversation that we had all of the base we had when he got paid. I was just kind of like all right, I mean good for them, but I just don't see that in him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think another thing too is like what have you done for me lately? Like he got him to the superbowl at the right time, yeah, you know. I mean it's like okay, like we can't ignore that fact that, hey look, he did get us to a superbowl, even though we don't, we don't, we don't let that play well, yeah no, I'm just saying when you time, when it's time to pay yeah, he has an excellent team.
Speaker 2:So it's just like it's not like the team was on his back, like that's not, that's not, that's not how it was and that's how I actually diagnosed talent. Like, if you're a quarterback, is the team on your back? Did you carry them niggas to the Super Bowl? No, he had excellent players all around him. The defense was excellent. He had excellent receivers. You know he was getting production from the running backs by grant. He didn't have a saquon barkley, but I mean he was. He had what deandre swift and mal sanders at the time like he had production, like he had dallas goddard. Like I said, the defense was amazing pass rush, uh, dbs like he, he, he had it. So I don't feel like when I look at that super bowl run, I also felt like they had it extremely easy too. That's another thing that I had said to you guys a lot.
Speaker 2:If you look at your path to that Super Bowl there's, there's a lot of guys that could have did it One, two, they, they, they got, they got the, they got the. You know the cars, they played, the cars that they were dealt. But after that I just didn't say, oh yeah, he's a generational. Oh yeah, he has to be the highest paid player ever. Hell, no, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I think I mean like teams especially fall victim to, especially when you're when you've had success, like Philly has been a very successful organization. Let's just say the past 10 years. You know even Andy Reed too. You know what I mean. You could really probably go back 20 almost just of consistency.
Speaker 1:So I think again, with them not really having a bunch of down years and him coming in and his second year and kind of flourishing under that offense and you know that coaching staff, and then to get you know, a play, not only a playoff appearance, but then Superbowl, like again like you got to pay them and like you're saying in the most money, you know what I mean, like highest pay, whatever, whatever. I mean that's just going to be what it's going to be. But a lot of teams just don't make it to the Super Bowl. So to have that on your resume, even if you don't have MVPs and stuff like that, only two quarterbacks get to the Super Bowl every year To be able to say, hey, I was one of them early in my career, my third year or whatnot, I got us to a Super Bowl. That's something to brag about in itself.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's the way you. I don't necessarily agree with you.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying, you can just feel, that's how he got paid.
Speaker 2:I feel like there's quarterbacks that weren't shit. That's been in the Super Bowl, yeah. Yeah, I don't think, just because you make it to a Super Bowl, that you're that guy, even at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1:But if he was just a game manager, like if he didn't, If he wasn't a very good quarterback, I don't think he would have got paid that, Like you said, if the offense wasn't going through him. What you know.
Speaker 2:They pay not good quarterbacks all the time. Daniel Jones got $40 million a season, right. I think we all agreed that that was not. Maybe you didn't. Maybe you were on board with that, I wasn't, and they were in the playoff game. That's what I'm saying. Not really, and they were in the playoff game.
Speaker 1:But that's what I'm saying. But like right. But to go to like like again, I think he just won at the right time and showed that hey, if we get this version of daniel jones and let's just say he gets, you know, improves the next year like he just didn't, um, and then you lose saquon, and you know, I mean like things in that, or I think that was more of an organizational thing and I say, and that if he goes somewhere else he's going to be good or he deserved the money. But I just think at that time it was like look, here's a glimmer of hope Now. Should they have paid Saquon? Absolutely, but now Do you at a point where you can let him go and you realize it. You know what I mean. So I don't think I mean for Jalen Hurts to be back in this position again. You know what I mean, with the possibility to make another Super Bowl run.
Speaker 2:He's not though. What you mean, I'll just speak for myself. I know that they're not going to the Super.
Speaker 1:Bowl? They're not, but even an NFC Championship game is not a bad season for him, and that's realistic.
Speaker 2:I can see them in the Lions. I can see them in the Lions. There's some truth there.
Speaker 1:So yeah, next game we got Bills and Broncos.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I thought you meant going forward. But yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that's what I'm just, yeah, going forward, but Bills and the Broncos Is this the best Josh Allen we've seen forward? But uh, bills in the broncos.
Speaker 2:Is this the best josh allen we've seen. Like is um josh josh allen has been fairly consistent.
Speaker 2:So to say this is the best? No, I guess the best version. I guess, no, I think this is right on right, on right on par with what really he's been the entire time. Um, it's just gonna be. Can he to be? Can he beat Mahomes? Can he beat Lamar, first, actually, and then it's going to be can he beat Mahomes, and then I guess we'll know more going forward. But no, this is right on par with what I expect from Josh Allen, what he's capable of. He's right there Now. I know for a fact Justin wouldn't't agree with me there, but I'm actually I'm, I'm rolling, with josh allen being a good quarterback, like, yeah, I'm, I'm rolling with that.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. Um, he's just really good. And again, like both of those guys, like you said, lamar and josh both have to prove that they can beat the man. Neither one of them has beaten Patrick in the playoffs. I don't think so. This is really their year to prove it, because chances are it's going to go through KC. One of them are going to meet KC in the AFC championship and I think it would be disappointing if one of them don't beat him. Lamar, you almost beat beating first game of the season. Josh, every time they come to and most of the time they come to buffalo, they, they wear you out at home that's crazy, because lamar and them got to go to buffalo, right?
Speaker 2:uh, yep, yeah yeah, stuff, but baltimore dropped some games that they shouldn't have and that would have changed that whole scenario that whole move, yeah.
Speaker 1:So again, like are we gonna get the, the buffalo team, to play down to their competition? You know what I mean, or?
Speaker 2:you know.
Speaker 1:But you can say the same thing about the ravens too. Like sometimes they just play down or, you know, I mean they get in their own way, like last year. I just feel like they got in their own way against k City, like they had tons of opportunities. It just got in their own way. But again, I think you know, with Josh Allen having the distractions out of the locker room and everybody's just on the even playing field, there's, you know, again, you always got a receiver. That's a diva. You end up growing into one, I guess you should say. But with all that out of there, you could just spread the ball around, run when you want, you know. I mean you can kind of have some flexibility and not feel bad about the offense that you're running or forcing the ball to somebody because they feel like they're not getting enough targets, like I'm with that Raven Steelers. So there's been a lot of talk about the Steelers and what's next for?
Speaker 2:them, but the only thing they can stand on is that they beat us Like they've been trashed. I mean, I haven't yeah.
Speaker 1:The end of the season was not their best, nah. So like I think they may have peaked kind of early. They may have peaked right, right in the middle of the season, like that um weeks eight through like 12, you know. I mean like that four game run like they peaked kind of early and then on the back end they just didn't look the same, especially offensively. Um. So yeah, I think the stealer I don't know man, do you get my rid of tomlin? Everybody's been talking about that. Do you trade tomlin? Do you make a change? This is about the time I'll take them pause.
Speaker 1:This is about the time that the stealers, as far as years, usually make a coaching change. You usually get about 15 years out of a stealer coach or more, um, three coaches in the total. You know I mean total, but like you have to hit on this one two, like you've been lucky for three coaches in a row, like to hit on this fourth one, like who's really out there? Did you just say right? I feel like this person could carry us for the next 10 to 15 years as an organization.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to be careful with that, but I mean, one thing I can say positively about the Steelers is that they do have a solid foundation and culture around there. So I feel like a lot of the stuff is really hard to say. I feel like that's one of the things that's keeping the Bengals from being great is that the culture is not right.
Speaker 1:Same thing with Andy. The culture is not right.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. I feel like Rooney is the owner of the Steelers, right? Yes, yeah, I feel like they've built something that can't be shaken. I feel like if they had to bring in another coach, that coach will fall in line. If they had to bring in a quarterback, clearly the quarterback's going to fall in line. I just don't feel like they're one of the organizations that you really have to worry about. A shift in culture, regardless of who you bring in, and once you have that culture established, you can replace you. Can, you know, take away guys, add guys, add guys, take away guys, and that culture and that foundation is still solid.
Speaker 2:And I think a lot of times they, they promote from within too, so it may be a guy who's already been in there. I don't know if they have there currently, that would be able to.
Speaker 1:I don't know either.
Speaker 2:I don't even know who their coordinators are. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I don't even want to lie live.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, but again like I, yeah, I don't know, I don't know who they got, but again like I mean usually, when they're ready to make that switch, they usually have a guy in mind and normally they're already been in the building, so they're accustomed to that. I don't think they've ever brought out an outside guy to run an organization.
Speaker 2:Damn. So Tomlin was there before.
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Wasn't he the DC you asking?
Speaker 2:the wrong person.
Speaker 1:We're going to have to talk to Brandon on that and find out. Is he in the comments? Let's see, we just got a comment. Let's see Isaac Josh Allen actually played well against the Chiefs in the playoffs. His decent lost that game. Yeah, we don't have Brandon with us. Today is his anniversary, so he would not be in the comments.
Speaker 2:But Brandon's. Oh yeah, that's right, I was just thinking about that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, his. I think again they'll find somebody and even if they strike out, you can't be mad if they make a quick change after one or two years, just to you know, find some more stability. But I think the Steelers, like you said, culture thing, miami heat like, like they're one of those type of the baltimore ravens, like teams, don't they really, no matter what, never fall too far off of that consistency. As far as culture and, like you said, we since I feel the same thing in indy, like that's all the reports have been coming out is like everything in the locker room, just culture wise behind closed doors, is what's been affecting the play on the field. So I would take him to a, even as a coordinator. I don't care, we just need somebody in there that's going to challenge the norm For sure. And the second thing is does the Ravens win the Super Bowl, man, do you?
Speaker 2:these guys are playing ridiculous dude, like I'm trying to think who I even have my favorite for. I hope so. I mean out of the teams remain. I just hope the Chiefs don't win, like by all means whoever has to do.
Speaker 1:Whatever Chiefs, please, like you know but then they get a three-peat bro that'll be, that'll be.
Speaker 2:I'm just, I just I'm not a fan of that. Just like, just like, uh, like I wasn't a fan of of the warriors doing what they did, I'm just not a fan of like dynasties, for some reason. I just don't. I can do without it. Like I like parody, I like to see you know different teams. Oh, that's a solid win for the hawks. That's real solid. That's real solid. I like to see you know different teams get it done. I don't want to see the same team do it over and over and over again. And that actually brought up something, another point that I wanted to make, but I'll let you finish up and then we can jump to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree with that too. I want parity in a sense, because that means the league is balanced Right, but also like if Patrick Mahomes was to win another one I wouldn't be upset, but it's kind of like how.
Speaker 2:That's the thing.
Speaker 1:They're not even playing that well?
Speaker 2:They're not. I mean they're not playing well at all. They're not. I mean they're not playing well at all. That well is one thing, but they're not playing. They haven't played well all season, but they're managing to win. I hate stuff like that.
Speaker 1:They don't shoot themselves in the foot. They've been. They get breaks. They've gotten a couple breaks. And they've made a couple plays like on special teams, and then you know A couple plays like on special teams. And then you know the defense Like they've made the play when they had to, whether it was offensive on first down the ice a game and getting the field goal range, or, like you said, you know, you could have called a miss field goal or a block or it's just been something, and that kind of makes me feel like man.
Speaker 1:Destiny may just be on the A side man, but you can't have, I think, against the Bills or even the Ravens you can't have. I don't think you get that type of luck, maybe against the Bills, just because the Bills tend to get up against the Chiefs and shoot themselves in the foot, at least defensively, as Ike pointed out. I guess the Ravens, the way they playing right now, they played good the first game. Again you play them again, even though you'll be at home this time. Still, I think if the Ravens come out there and execute like how they've been playing, that's going to be tough for the Kansas City. But again, kansas City defense has shown us before against high-powered offenses that they come through. So I think it's going to be real good, hopefully to get down to these three teams. We got a Texan team that's going to be playing the Chiefs and with that being said, I've got to talk about your boy, justin Herbert, again, man.
Speaker 1:Again he looked like Andy. Dalton, Like that was crazy I was like bruh, like every year, one of the one of the teams we always talk about is the chargers and we talk about justin herbert and are we on this train? And, like I said, I'm glad I got off last year.
Speaker 2:I'm glad I got off last year, man I just bought an autographed Justin Herbert jersey, literally the weekend before the playoffs started, so like so it'll be up on the wall here soon. But yeah, buddy got zipped. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:So he's only played two playoff games.
Speaker 2:And got a class.
Speaker 1:And then this he threw three interceptions All season. He threw a 27-0 lead. And then this he threw three interceptions all season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he threw four last weekend.
Speaker 1:He threw four. He got two, Stingley got two. That last one, yeah, he threw four. So that's crazy. In one game you beat your season total and then you go 14 for 32, bro, Like three sacks, Like one of the worst QBRs in playoff history.
Speaker 2:I bet it wasn't worse than that. Uh, that texans um uh andy dalton game. We got to look that up. You fact? Check me on that and it's crazy.
Speaker 2:That game was at houston too, and buddy was booty like he was booty. I remember watching that game like man, if this nigga could do anything we would be all right, and he couldn't do anything. And I think we were playing davis mills too, like yeah, I will never forget that game. I wonder, I wonder, how the qbr is aligned because that that game by andy dawson was crazy. That's what made me think about it. I'm just like I don't even think andy dawson has thrown thrown a touchdown in the playoffs. He might have won in like four games or something like that.
Speaker 1:AFC wildcard games. He is, I can show you in 2012.
Speaker 1:Y'all played that's the Houston game. He was 27 for 42. We played it twice though. Oh, okay, the second one Okay, I see which one you're talking about. Well, shoot, the both of them was bad. The first one in 2012, 27. He was 27 for 42. He was 257, but he threw three picks. His rating was a 51. Then, the next time y'all made it to the playoffs, y'all played him again. That was in 13. 14 to 30, he threw a pick rating of 44.7. He only threw for 127 yards. Yeah, all his games.
Speaker 2:He has one touchdown and six picks in four postseason games yeah. I don't think it's worse.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's worse, but hell, he's on pace. Yeah, it's up there. You know what I'm just saying? In two more playoff games, dude, he might be right there. It's up there. So again, I'm just like I'm glad I'm off of this Justin Herbert's train. I got off of it at the right time.
Speaker 2:I still. I don't know what it is about him, bro. I don't know either, bro, I can't.
Speaker 1:He's a good quarterback in the regular season and he's always putting his team in position to win. The defense didn't give it up. It was him this game. I watched the whole game. I wanted to make sure, so when we talked about them, I wasn't just talking out my ass. I watched the whole game and I'm like dude, this is Herbert.
Speaker 2:I did too.
Speaker 1:He was terrible he was terrible bad. It was just bad. Decision making all the way across the board, like and you hardly ever see a jim hardball quarterback play like that. Like even even if san francisco, like they weren't playing like that, like uh, kaepernick was not playing like that, he was not the reasons why they lost games, like, but another difference, though, is that, uh like he was not the reason why they lost games.
Speaker 2:Another difference, though, is that he was running the ball. I thought the Chargers was going to run the ball a lot more than they did. I didn't see a whole lot of screens. There was no running the ball really. But the Texans, the Texans' defense, they play well, for sure. They definitely play well.
Speaker 1:I think that may have been an out-coaching moment. It could be. It could be. I think maybe they weren't prepared for the Texans' defense the way they thought they was.
Speaker 2:You got an offensive head coach against a defensive head coach, and defensive head coach got it done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, most definitely. So, yeah, man, yeah, I think that's it. I think that's it. So I mean, we're going to this week's playoff games. I mean you got, like I said, Chiefs-Texans Bills-Ravens on the AFC side, and then you get Lions-Commanders and Eagles-Rams, so I guess we can do some picks right now. Man, I guess, chiefs-texans man, who are you taking Chiefs? Chiefs-texans man who you taking Chiefs Chiefs?
Speaker 2:I believe so too. There's going to be too much for them Although I don't even think Chiefs are that good, but too much for them, and they came back on them before.
Speaker 1:So I mean, yeah, it's going to be at the crib too. It's going to be with Chiefs Ravens.
Speaker 2:I'm going for the Ravens.
Speaker 1:Me too. I'm going for the Ravens. I want to see a rematch between the Chiefs and the Ravens. I do. But, josh Allen, this will change the narrative, I believe.
Speaker 2:I think the Bills and the Ravens have very good shots at beating the Chiefs. It's just they can't. It's just like every single game. The Chiefs just get a break. That just allows them to win. It happens every game, pretty much every game. This season. They could have lost based on just one thing If we didn't get that pass interference on 4th and 16, we'd beat them. 4th and 16, we beat them.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Fourth and 16. All we had to do was just not let them get 16 yards and we we win that game, the Denver game. They missed what 30 yard field goal to win the game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the.
Speaker 2:Ravens game. The Ravens game Inch On the line.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you know the Ravens game. He, I'm on the line, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So this is like they've gotten a lot of breaks and it's just like the football guys must be very favorable, they must be in high favor of the football guys, because they continue to get break after break. So we'll see.
Speaker 1:No, I agree with that and again, like I said, I believe I'm with you. I think whoever wins that Bills-Ravens game, like, has a strong chance to beat the Chiefs Again. Like rested Chiefs probably got a couple guys back healthy, like you know, they're going to be prepared Like I haven't seen too many people out coach, andy Reid and that staff yet. So, yeah, I think it starts off. Whoever they play, it starts off slow but then they end up picking up. But yeah, man, that that bills raven game is gonna be a great game and if josh allen wants to be mentioned, like in that next tier, you know what I mean like this is one of the games he has to win.
Speaker 1:he's been falling short like he has to win this game in order to take that next step. I think in quarterback tier. Um, he's very, very good, but you got to be one of the greats in order to to put your name up there with them. And he, they just haven't year in, year out. So, um, lions commanders on the other side and eagles rams I'm gonna go uh.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go Lions and uh Eagles, but I don't. I ain't really confident in it at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Lions. But that Eagle Rams game scares me because again you got. You got a Rams team who's also them being and won a Super Bowl. Uh, had a down year, still playing hard. This Super Bowl had a down year, still playing hard. This was supposed to be a down year. Now, you know, not only to battle back and win the division, but to also go on the road. Technically, I mean, go and win a playoff game, not on the road Well, I guess technically everybody was on the road because it was in Arizona but to beat on a Vikings team, a very good defensive Vikings team, to put a 27 on them.
Speaker 1:And now they're going to go play the Eagles. Plus, they're playing for more like veteran quarterback who hasn't been there, done it. You know, great receiving quarterback healthy, this young defense is playing out of their mind. What do they have to lose? Right, you know, especially if they have to lose Right, especially if they get to Jalen Hurst, who may not be playing at 100%, and you've got a disgruntled receiver, if they can stop the run, then I think they've got a very good chance of beating them. So I'm going to pick the Rams, but it could go Eagles if they can get on the same page and if AJ Brown isn't going to be a distraction, because sitting on the sideline reading a book, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a different type of cat man. I don't think these guys can control themselves at this point, so we'll see.
Speaker 1:Ike is crazy. He said shout out to Herbert just to take a step back. He did enough to help me hit my parlay in that game, hey what kind of parlay did you have?
Speaker 2:nigga man, who knows that shitter ass game, helped you hit a hard parlay Like I would love to see what to what whoa that's?
Speaker 1:crazy. Then he said I think the ravens beat the chiefs this year behind henry and lamar not hesitating to actually run the ball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why are the ravens gonna stop killing themselves?
Speaker 1:yeah, but it's retarded but again now it's like now they got, I think that's they're playing the way they should have been playing last year. But again now you got Derrick Henry. So like, even if you don't really want to have to run the ball with Lamar, because I can understand that, but like now you got Henry back there. Dude, that could just tire out an offense, I mean a defense. But then you got the Chiefs who, just like you said, they get the breaks, they make the plays, like here lately it's been their defense coming up with the stops, like I don't know. I think, like we were saying, I think the Ravens Bills, either one of those teams could beat the Chiefs this year. But it's like again. It's like the Chiefs, like we've seen them in this predicament before and they just always tend to come through. So it's hard to pick against them.
Speaker 1:it's just so hard, um, but with that man that's all I got man um, sorry for the technical difficulties, not really our fault, uh, but you know it's new year, man, you know technology, it does, it does. So final man before we get out of here.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to see what the Bengals do in the offseason. I promise you I'm not going to hold you, I'm just going to get this out real quick. We're in an interesting situation, obviously, you know. The word on the street is that we can't keep Chase and Higgins, which I don't understand how we can't and every other team can keep all their players. You got the 49ers with Debo, iuke, trent Williams, mccaffrey, fred Warner, all those guys, george Kittles how they can have all those guys. And we can't have four guys. We literally have four guys that are worth big contracts Burrow, chase, higgins and Hendrickson. How we can keep them in.
Speaker 2:All these other teams got the Eagles you got Hurts. You got Saquon. You got AJ Brown. You got Devontae Smith. You got that defense Granted. A lot of the defense is younger guys that they drafted and are outstanding, by the way. You got Darius Slay. You got CJ Gardner-Johnson. You're paying people, but we for some reason can't pay our people. I don't understand that. But I'm also on the side where T Higgins can be replaced. Wide receivers are a dime a dozen and with a quarterback playing at the level that Joe Burrow is, he can be replaced. So I'm really curious to see how we play that out. I'm sure it's going to be underwhelming. I'm sure we're going to make the wrong moves, because that's just the history of the Bengals, but I'm interested to see how it plays out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't know, that's your team, I. I don't know if I agree that. I think the reason why y'all having the trouble with paying guys is because their their contracts are due so close to each other. So, like teams get lucky and they get like, okay, I can pay my quarterback and then in the third year his contract I could pay, you know, I mean, I could pay somebody the fact of the matter is they're all being paid at the same time on the same team.
Speaker 1:How some teams can do that but see, I think money but money hits in different years at different times and stuff you could train in the training bonus. Like I said, I think what y'all was like burl, dennis chase and dennis higgins at the same time, like it was just too close together to be like top paid quarterback, top paid rod receiver and it didn't even know that's bs that's bs uh aj brown, devontae smith and saquon barkley all got contracts within a year and a half yeah, but you bring.
Speaker 1:But they were. They were all staggered out because, aj brown, he got his, his, his original one when he got traded there. They did a sign and trade with Tennessee because that's the reason why he wanted out of Tennessee, because they weren't paying. So when he got there, deontay Smith, he was on a rookie contract.
Speaker 2:I want to say Buddy's been re-upped since.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but see, when you re-up, the old money gets stretched out some more so it doesn't hit the cap the same. That's what I'm saying. Like, their contrast is staggered. How the hell can we do that? Because, again, like you didn't pay Higgins early enough, you let him and Chase get too close and now you got to try to pay two. That's what I'm saying. If they had paid Chase maybe a year ago or paid Higgins two years ago, then you could have stretched it out and then you wouldn't be having full Higgins money with signing bonus at the same time that you're trying to pay Chase in a signing bonus too.
Speaker 2:That definitely falls in line with what is expected from the Bengals. So I mean, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. Most of these teams, you got to stagger them and offer extensions.
Speaker 2:No, AJ Green just got, I mean AJ Green A and offer extensions. No, aj Green just got, I mean AJ Green. Aj Brown just got another contract in April.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so now they all got paid the same time, right. But you got to think, though, you have rookie contracts on AJ's first one and he got read up towards the end, so that money at the end of his gets stretched out over the new one. That's why davante's money, when you signed him, when his money hit, it's not two top uh receiver money hitting at the same time. That's what I'm saying because you don't want to be paying signing bonuses at you know what I mean for two players at the same time, because then you can turn stuff into signing bonus, you can own these extensions and stretch it out and I think the eagles have been very good at stretching that out and then you get, you know, the Kelsey brother who retired, so now his money drops. You know what I'm saying. So, like you're not paying too top offensive line with him and Lane Johnson. Like I said, I just think they just staggered it out.
Speaker 2:Well, and I'm actually looking at it right now. I see how they're doing it. His base salary he don't even make $2 million a season. His base salary yeah.
Speaker 1:Because they can move that money down the line so it doesn't hit the same as somebody else they need to change that.
Speaker 2:They need to change that and it's like we as fans got to suffer because our owner doesn't have any money. You know what I'm saying. But you can sign this guy to a three year ninety six million dollar contract and pay him less than two million in salary based salary every year, but then, just you know, put all these sign and prorations and options and shit on it and that's bullshit, bro. But I mean I digress, so I guess that's my answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah man, same with the coach too. Man Just looking forward to see what happened in offseason. Yeah man, same with the Colts too. Man Just looking forward to see what happens in the offseason. There's just been so much chatter in the city about what they should do about Ballard Steichen. They got rid of Gus. Right now he's the fall guy for this year, one of the worst defensive years we've ever had.
Speaker 2:Was it really that bad? Defensively.
Speaker 1:We gave up the third most yards in the league, I believe.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, what about scoring? Because y'all wasn't just getting like. Y'all definitely didn't give up more points than we gave up, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure, but I just think just overall with the defense.
Speaker 2:Our defense kind of got better towards the end of the season. I will give them credit for that. They got better. You know how I feel about our defense, but I'm always going to call a spade a spade. They definitely got better towards the end, but I mean they were just giving up free points. We've never been a team that really gave up a whole lot of points. We've always been a lose-by-one-possession team. We were just giving up crazy points earlier in the season.
Speaker 1:We were giving up 25 points a game, which to me that's crazy. Let me scroll down to the defense. Like, yeah, total yards. Let me see Offensive plays rushing. Why are they not showing me defense, not showing me anything defense? But yeah, like efficiency was low, Like we just yeah, our defense was horrible.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Because y'all actually have good pieces too, and that's the thing. I take Zaire, I take Kenny Moore, I take EJ Speed, I take DeForest Buckner in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and these are guys that's getting paid. We're paying guys at every level, like we paid Kenny Moore, we paid Zaire, ej Speed, we paid DeForest Buckner, grover Stewart, so we paid guys at every level.
Speaker 2:KD paid about to come up. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, that's what I'm saying. Kd paid about to come up for a contract extension. So like we got guys at every level. Just DBs can't stay healthy. Play calling is horrible, like everybody's knowing. We're running cover three you know what I mean or four quarters, like that's literally all we ran for 99% of the season. So you got to switch that up, like you said, especially to be paying a lot of guys on that side of the ball and I think they feel like with Stuyken offensively, eventually it'll come around. But, like I said, it depends on Richard saying how hard he want to work.
Speaker 1:Just hearing a lot about the team just not working hard, people just behind the scenes not doing what they need to do to prepare properly for games, whether it's treatment or meetings, being late to meetings, like stuff like that. Like things are. Just it's a culture thing. Like you said, you know, on the back end, from the front office down, and this is on Ballard's watch. So I think this is the last year that you know that if we don't at least make it to the playoffs and the way our city feel, we at least need to win one playoff game. Win the South and win a playoff game. That's the only thing that saves anybody jobs.
Speaker 1:I feel like next year, true, because you're not going to get a super tight draft pick. I mean, you're picking 15th. We've always been picking in the middle, you know, outside of Anthony Richardson, even the years that we didn't make the playoffs. We were just usually one or two games away. So we're always picking between 10 and 20. So away, so we're always picking between 10 and 20 um. So we'll see um offseason moves. I don't know if they're gonna spend money this year and bring in some vets. Uh, because you gotta change this locker room and what do you think y'all need most?
Speaker 2:and I'm gonna tell you what I, what I think we need most, and we can get out uh, dbs uh, we always, we always lose, uh, at least three dbs a year.
Speaker 1:The past three years we've had three dbs a year. Juju can't stay on the field. Um, that's like you know. I mean like, like literally, I think we lost three this year, um, again. So I think that's the biggest thing on defense we need offensively. We just need consistency. Uh led the league and dropped balls this year. So even though anthony richardson isn't the most accurate quarterback, when he was hitting the receivers they were dropping the ball. So we talk about his completion percentage, but if we turn those drops in the catches, I guarantee you he's closer to 50. You know 50, 55 percent, you know. I mean still terrible. By the way. I mean I'm saying like way. I don't expect him to be in the 60s, 70s or even 80s. That's just elite quarterback. Play 50%. That changes a bunch of games.
Speaker 2:Damn, what was his percentage? It was lower than 50?. I'm about to show you.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you right now God damn His 47.7. God damn.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen a field goal percentage. I don't think I've ever seen a completion percentage that low amongst a starter.
Speaker 1:It's one of the lowest all time for QBs in the season. So again, like Damn.
Speaker 2:That's bad.
Speaker 1:But again, like I said you, you look at it, we get to drops. You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean that's like the equivalent of like 20% in the NBA like field goal percentage, like that's bad. Yep 47 is terrible, but I mean you got to put in the work.
Speaker 1:I mean the job's not in jeopardy.
Speaker 2:So like shit, gotta get back in the lab, yeah.
Speaker 1:and, like I said, to have His job's not in jeopardy, so like shit got to get back in the lab, yeah. And, like I said, to have receivers just dropping balls. Man, like you're going to have to make a decision on Alec Pierce, which he had a breakout season this year. He led the league in average yards per catch. Really, yep Damn. He led our team in receiving yards.
Speaker 2:He led our team in. How many catches, yards and touchdowns did he finish with?
Speaker 1:He had 37 catches. That's it For 824. No, not the catches.
Speaker 2:The yardage.
Speaker 1:He led the team in yardage at 824, and he had seven touchdowns. He averaged 22 yards a catch. So he showed that he can at least yards a catch. So we got. So he showed that he can at least be a deep threat, which, yeah, um, pitman was hurt, you know 90 of the year, he still. He still had 69 catches for 808, but he only had three touchdowns, josh downs. He was hurt, he. He missed three games but he had 72 catches, uh, for 803. So we had three receivers with over 800 yards on the team. Yeah, um, but again, like the drops, nobody was scoring like michael pitman, three touchdowns, josh down, five touchdowns. Uh, alec pierce, seven touchdowns. So between the three, you know, I mean for the Between the three of them, you're talking about 15 touchdowns for three receivers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and fucking Chase had 17.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying by himself. That's crazy. So, like I said, I think with the drive we just need more consistency, like when Richardson does get the ball to you, make the catch and then we can see. You know what I mean. But you're about to have to pay Alec Pierce if you want to keep him and you can't argue with his numbers.
Speaker 1:I mean he produced if nobody else did. Yeah, so even if you pay him as a number two, like still 25 a year maybe, then you're going to have to get Josh Downs the year after that.
Speaker 2:No, you don't, it's them. No, no, the hell you don't. But but let him walk like.
Speaker 1:No, you don't have to pay him, but josh downs is probably one of the best. Slot is the best receiver for his hands and consistency.
Speaker 2:He's probably the most consistent on our team see, I'm about to take your word for that, because I'm not, I'm not yes, he led the team.
Speaker 1:He led the team in catches and he he was third in yards, missing three games and had five touchdowns, and second on our team in touchdowns. He most consisted out of all of them. So if I say move somebody, I would say move Pittman, because Pittman can't stay on the field. He's always hurt. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:The only way I can keep up with how well people are doing is by their car value, because you know I'm tapped into that. So it's just like I see the trends. So I only have to watch the games to really know what's what. Man, it's crazy how much anthony richardson cards have dropped and like I've seen a a rookie patch autograph going for like 50 bucks this weekend like it's crazy, it is insane.
Speaker 1:So yeah um like I said back in man, biggest thing is back end for us, uh, just too many dbs hurt man. You can't have that. So but yeah, man, that's all I got. Man glad I'm gonna tell you what we need. We can get out, but yeah, what y'all need what you need everything. Oh man, I knew it, I knew it.
Speaker 2:Uh, I fell for it literally we need everything except for quarterback. I mean we really probably, if tiggity higgins go, we probably really need another receiver, because the games have shown that when Chase is out there by himself it gets spooky. It's not hey, you got to look at the games. Chase has had his best games with T Higgins out there. If there's no T, I mean I don't know if Yoshi Voss is ready to be a number two. So like we really probably need a receiver if we we uh lose T and then the guy we got third round, uh, jermaine Burton, he's probably gonna get cut. Like. So we uh we might need, we might need literally legitimately need everything but a quarterback Running back. I like Chase Brown, but we need somebody else. You got to have somebody that can do something out of the backfield. So, yeah, we might need to look into another running back. We need D-line, we need somebody opposite Hendrickson.
Speaker 2:So he can quit getting double teamed. We need the S-cap, but we need linebackers.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm just saying coming up this year after having what you know what I mean, Leading the league in sacks, like people are going to, they're going to start, you know, shifting that way so he can't have a bigger hit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we need we need yeah, he needs to. Yeah, we need some. We need some strip fumbles we need needs to. Yeah, we need some. We need some strip fumbles, we need some, we need some, some. Some run defense out of him too. So that makes sense. But yeah, so, yeah, we, we pretty and I'm not even being funny we, we could use something at every, every single position, except for quarterback, so we'll see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, we'll see. Um, keep y'all in the loop, man by by the time we come. No, we had a national championship, that's the 20th.
Speaker 2:Yes, Monday. I'm either going to be a piece of shit on Tuesday or the happiest man alive.
Speaker 1:We'll be here to talk about it either way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll be here, for sure.
Speaker 1:Then, after that man, we'll start preparing for March Madness. We'll be doing some crossover shows with Crossroads. They can help us get prepared for this. March Madness coming up after the college football championship and Super Bowl man. So y'all having a Super Bowl party.
Speaker 2:We can, I don't know, I got to remember to take that next day off, man, because fuck that Partying and chilling and shit and then having to go to work. At least I can go in later. You know trying to be there at 8 after.
Speaker 1:But I mean we can.
Speaker 2:I have to talk to wifey about it, and we can. I mean, I'm not, you know, y'all People don't think that you People can come over my house whenever bro Like yeah. So party or not like if you want to pull up like yeah, it don't have to be like no event, Like it's the main shit, Knock on the door and I'm gonna answer and that's that. So yeah.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, that's just been the epic podcast, first one of 2025, man, we see y'all next week. Man, peace out.