E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
Game-Changing Trades, College Rankings Drama, and Sports Highlights
Ever wondered how mid-season trades can redefine an NFL team’s future or how college football's top 25 rankings shape the playoff landscape? Tune in to find out as we break down the latest strategic moves in the NFL and dissect the season's biggest college football matchups. This episode is packed with lively discussions on the highs and lows of recent sports events, including a spotlight on the WNBA where Brianna Stewart leads the Liberty to thrilling victories, and the concerning news of Kawhi Leonard's injury, raising questions about his NBA future.
Our deep dive into college football rankings offers insight into the potential outcomes and playoff scenarios facing powerhouse programs like Georgia, Penn State, and Oregon. We explore the impact of head-to-head matchups and contemplate the significance of conference battles that could shake up the standings. From standout players like Shadurah Sanders and Jeremiah Smith to the competitive dynamics within the Big Ten, we examine how key games could influence the race to the playoffs.
In our NFL segment, we explore the ripple effects of recent trades and the strategies behind these calculated moves. With big names like Mike Williams joining the Steelers and Devontae Adams shaking things up, we analyze how these changes could enhance team performance and playoff aspirations. Our conversation includes game predictions and weekly picks, infused with humor and candid opinions, offering a vibrant snapshot of the current sports landscape. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a casual observer, this episode promises to keep you informed and entertained.
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Speaker 2:Yo yo yo. Welcome back to another episode of the Epic Podcast. We are back for another week of sports talk, man. We're in the house today with Jared and John man. How's your sports weekend, john man?
Speaker 3:Ha, ha, ha ha ha. I mean it was fine until about 7, 38, 9 o'clock at night, saturday. But yeah it was all right. I guess it was a good game, though man, I mean good is relative.
Speaker 4:That's one of our standards. Man, I'm about to. Good is relative.
Speaker 3:That's one of our standards man I'm about to say good is relative.
Speaker 2:I mean, this is what we wanted. We want these teams, these top teams, baby, that's not what we wanted at all.
Speaker 4:That's not what we wanted in college football.
Speaker 3:That's 100% not what we wanted, not at all.
Speaker 2:Maybe not for Ohio State fans, but you know.
Speaker 3:Uh-uh.
Speaker 2:Oregon's sitting pretty right now.
Speaker 4:Not even for Big Ten fans, really. Nah exactly, I don't think a normal Big Ten fan wants to see this.
Speaker 3:Nah, not at all.
Speaker 2:It's competition, babe, that's true. What about you, Jared man? How was your sports weekend?
Speaker 4:Shit about the same as John's bro. I mean it was cool, though, like I said, ultimately I do like seeing good games, just not good games involving my team. I want to see all the blowouts, but I mean it was straight. Same old, same old man just getting ready for NBA. This is our last weekend without NBA season going on, so I just pretty sick chilling out. Yeah man, it's been cool.
Speaker 2:How about you. We're going to talk a little. Mine was cool. Coast pulled out a win, alabama pulled out a win.
Speaker 4:Eagles did win Sunday night, but that game was terrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm not really.
Speaker 4:We're really bad at football right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not mad at my weekend, man, it was okay, I can't complain. But let's jump into it right now. Man, get on, let's see Talk a little, kick it off off, of course, with the WNBA man Right now, man Links and Liberty man Still going at it. Man, right now Liberty up, two games to one Game time was at 77 man, I forgot her now I cannot say her name, I'm glad.
Speaker 1:I didn't put it on here.
Speaker 2:Yes, Hit his three pointer step back. That was crazy. I forgot her. Now I cannot say her name. I'm glad I didn't put it on here. Yes, hit his three-pointer step back. That was crazy. Put him up three. With one second remaining, minnesota lose second straight game. So, yeah, man, liberty up right now. Man, this could be a chance they can win their first chip, man, which is crazy. And they have been there five times, I think, since the WNBA began.
Speaker 1:Damn has it been this will be their first one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, since what it started in what? 98?, 99, 98, yeah.
Speaker 2:And they've been to the finals five times and they've never won. So if the Lynx come back, it'll be their fifth and they'll be the first team to win five. I think we pointed that out last week and they'll be the first team to win five. I think we pointed that out last week. But yeah, man, she ended the game With 13.6 assists, five rebounds. Brianna Stewart, of course, led the team 30 points and 11 rebounds, which she became the first WNBA player To have back to back 30.10 rebound games. So Brianna Stewart, out there Showing her back side Wow.
Speaker 2:She been out there hooping. You can't really knock her right. She been hooping, putting the team on her back, so moving right along, we're going to jump in to move on to the NBA. I don't know if anybody heard, but Kawhi Leonard is already hurt. She's ridiculous.
Speaker 3:Why are we surprising that?
Speaker 2:honestly, I'm not surprised. I said already hurt, because I'm saying it in a manner of which chances are he won't play this season. They say yeah, definitely. This is sources.
Speaker 3:Sources say that he's gone. He's not coming back. Let's just keep it real Look.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know what it is. He's gone bro.
Speaker 4:I think he should retire. He should definitely retire.
Speaker 3:I 100% believe he should retire.
Speaker 2:yes, I think at this point you know what I mean. In his mid-30s, like you know, one in three chips you cheat fans.
Speaker 4:You cheat the fans, you cheat the organization and it's crazy. I thought it was wild that they chose him over Paul George, I'd have much rather had Paul George. I mean, he injury prone too. But if I got to choose between Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, bro, I'm going yeah.
Speaker 2:But when y'all get to the playoffs, Paul George has been there for you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like I mean he, paul George, has been there for you. Yeah, like I mean Paul George is. I mean I feel like there's a little bit more legitimacy to Paul George's injury, like he's a lot more open with what's going on. Like how do you?
Speaker 3:hurt yourself in this season. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Quietly. It ain't every straight injury Like oh he got an elbow injury. It's like Kawhi sitting now Due to like yeah, when did you hurt your knee, bro? It'd be something so random. Like you said, there's never no backstory To oh he injured. In practice, you know there's never no detail. Oh, he went for surgery or MRI. They don't put that out there.
Speaker 3:I feel like he was already injured and they just didn't say anything. He ain't got better yet.
Speaker 2:It could be the same injury that's been plaguing him for the past. What?
Speaker 3:five years Same stuff.
Speaker 4:There's my connection.
Speaker 3:It's crazy.
Speaker 2:No, I don't get it. But yeah man, lonzo Ball comes back in his debut, scores 10 points in his return. I'd like to see that Somebody else who's just been riddled with injuries that battled back. Good to see him come back. Who knows what he's going to be. I don't think he has any needs left. Who is this Lonzo Ball? My bad, yeah, you jumped out. Hanzo Ball comes back and scores. He scored 10 in his return. That's cool Preseason game. I think it'd be cool for the Bulls just to see where he is, just to make a return. If he could be half the player he is, I think he'd be productive. That's not a bad thing. But the main topic about NBA man season-defining names I've seen this on the Internet and they were just talking about players that are going to impact this season in a big way or just people that's going to impact it Wimby, mb, redick. I want to start with MB. What do you all think his impact is going to be on this season?
Speaker 4:I mean if he can stay healthy, the sky's the limit.
Speaker 4:But I mean he already came out saying that he doubts he'll ever play back-to-backs again, which I think is super ridiculous. But I mean, that's just the nature of I ain't even going to say the nature of the game, I'm not even going to disrespect the game like that but that's just the nature of Joel Embiid and his injuries. Man, he, just he can't stay healthy. So I mean he could be MVP. I don't think he's ever going to even play enough games to qualify for MVP award, which is sad Again. Well, he got one MVP.
Speaker 2:Joel Embiid. He won not last year, but the year before last, really.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:When they first came up with the qualifications? No, I think the year before. They came up with the qualifications In 2023, yeah, he won in 2023. I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't think he's going to get another one.
Speaker 2:No, no, and even that one. If you really look at the numbers, it probably should have been Joker again, but to give him three in a row.
Speaker 2:I think they had to break that up. But yeah, he dropped 25 pounds this season. I mean, of course, hopefully that will help getting a little play in the Olympics. I mean he looked good, but again, like maybe now with Paul George you know what I mean and Tyrese Mack, maybe they could just take some of the load off, maybe him not paying back-to-backs will help Kind of go the Kawhi route. I mean they do have the Toronto's coach who kind of started the whole. What are they?
Speaker 4:Load management.
Speaker 2:Load management with Kawhi and he came back in the playoffs and went crazy. So maybe they kind of run that same plan with Embiid and hopefully he's there for the playoffs and hopefully they can make a long run, because the East is tough this year yeah it is. Very tough.
Speaker 4:And you know what's crazy? The West is too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't go say I didn't want to exclude the West, but I'm saying the East is tough because I think we all know.
Speaker 4:The worst team in the West is what the Spurs. They got a little smart the way they was playing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to say the way they was playing. Shoot, they may be a play-in, at least, yeah, somebody I can see that.
Speaker 4:And then you got to remember the Memphis Grizzlies is going to be back. Yeah, they was one of the teams that was outside looking in last year. They're going to be a lot better.
Speaker 2:John Morant stay healthy, stay out of trouble. Yep, Uh-huh.
Speaker 4:They got all the makeup NBA going to be pretty tight this year.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to it, Me too. Some other notable names I mean, of course Carl Anthony Towns, with the Knicks See how they come together. Wimby, with those new vets around him I think that's going to help him out. Especially Chris Paul somebody who can facilitate, get him open looks Definitely throwing oops. That's going to be ridiculous. This man can jump two feet off the ground and just catch oops over people. That's going to be ugly. Jj Redick, how are eyes are going to be on? Him and how this Laker team performs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the first preseason game. They look different. I could tell that he had his imprint on them, but ever since then they've looked like the same Lakers, just no, plays, no fluidity Now. Like there's just no, no, no plays, no, no, you know, fluidity. Now maybe he's just saving everything. But like the first, the first game, they were moving around, they were picking, they were diving, they were just doing everything and I'm like I can tell this looks different, but ever since then it's just been the same old, same old. So yeah.
Speaker 4:Hopefully he actually makes a difference. But yeah, based on these last few preseason games, I'm one of them people I'm big on. I want to see teams win in preseason, like I'm just big on that. Like I feel like it establishes a culture, it establishes a mentality. You want to try to win those games and the Lakers are the same, old, you know same, just losing. I mean, they got one win. They had to come back against the Bucs, but we'll see. Like I said, the first game I saw JJ Reddick's imprint. I saw it. But ever since then it looks the same.
Speaker 2:Hopefully he can keep them motivated on the defensive end, because I mean that's of course where they've been lacking at the most. They can keep them motivated on the defensive end.
Speaker 2:I they keep them motivated on the defensive end, I mean, offense comes I mean you got LeBron, ad, the other guy, like that's going to come, but you got to keep them motivated on the defensive end. And I think AD is probably the most important piece on the defensive end. Like if you just keep him going, like I think the other team, the rest of the team, not the other team rallies around him on the defensive end, so LeBron's going to give you hustle plays, fast break, chase downs. He's going to give you that. The rest of those guys got to put their weight on the defensive end of the court. D'angelo, russell, all those guys, they got to put their weight on the defensive end. You can't just depend on a 40-year-old LeBron and AD to make all the defensive plays because they're not going to be able to. Yeah, so I'm with that. What about John Morant man? What do you think his impact is going to be on Memphis? We mentioned him a little bit earlier. What do you think, john?
Speaker 3:Well, if he can stay out of the news with, you know, showing that he a bad boy from the, from the, you know, from the crib somewhere, I don't know if he can, you know, if he can actually focus on basketball, I think he's going to be all right. I mean, I think he's going to be a little bit. I feel like he's going to be. As far as in talent, I think he's going to be fine, but as far as with, like anything else, he's a step back. I think he was kind of going to be the main guy for that.
Speaker 3:I think they were pushing for him to kind of be the main guy to NBA. Like the face he was on that, he was on that trajectory and you know, with all of the silliness that he has done, that's kind of pushed him a little bit back. So I don't think he's going to lack in talent. I think he's going to be just as effective as he was before. And you know, they've gotten some really good pieces too. I actually got to see a preseason game with the Grizzlies just the other day and Edie is nice, edie's nice. Nah, for real, like he's nice and he's lost some weight, he's slimmed down and just his poise of kind of working with some NBA players. I think he's going to have a good core of people around him. Jai is, but he's just got to stay with basketball. Stay with basketball and get rid of those other crazy people in his circle and just focus on basketball. But if he does that, I think he does well. I think he does well.
Speaker 4:I agree with that.
Speaker 2:I agree too, especially Desmond Bain, jared Jackson Defense Player of the Year and Zach Edith in there now. I think that little core of guys can definitely make some moves in a Western Conference, especially on the defensive end. If they leave one of those old-school Grizzlies where defense worked a post you know what I mean like John Morant, I think they'll be all right. But like you said again with John Morant you've got to stay out of trouble, which I think he was on that pace last year to kind of prove that you know he could stay out of trouble before he got hurt.
Speaker 2:And I think this year, like well, what went on the year before last with him getting in trouble and then last year him not really being able to redeem himself with getting hurt, like this year, it's like nobody's really been talking about him as a face. Everybody's talking about Anthony Edwards, luka, all these other guys, you know what I mean Tatum Brown, the other guys in the league and, like John Morant name ain't really been mentioned. So I think if he could put that chip on his shoulder and kind of go out there and show them like nah, hey, look, I'm still here. Yeah, I done had some bumps in the road, but you know.
Speaker 4:I still want to up there with those names, with those guys. I deserve to be up there. Yeah, I feel like Anthony Edwards just got the shine.
Speaker 3:That was for Ja Morant.
Speaker 4:Morant kind of did it for himself. No absolutely.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's up to Ja where he's at how he come back.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that same aura that Anthony Edwards, and they're kind of similar.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm about to say. They're doing the same thing outside of, probably, the defensive prowess.
Speaker 4:You know, correct, guy. I mean, you know Anthony Edwards is the dude from the hood.
Speaker 2:Still you know, yeah, he raw too, yep.
Speaker 4:Him being this poster boy for you know. But it's just, you know, he just kind of came in there and took that shine. But I'm optimistic that Ja Morant can come take some of that back. So we'll see.
Speaker 3:Me too, Me too Definitely definitely, we will definitely see, we will definitely see.
Speaker 2:I mean nothing better than a good comeback story. You know what? I mean yeah, especially for somebody like him and what he went through, that was crazy.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like Ja, so I really want him to succeed. I just need him to get his mind right. Get your mind right.
Speaker 2:He had a stint where it was crazy. We're going to jump over to some college football real quick. First I want to get into talking about seeing something on here that was ranking the top 25, top 25 players I mean college football players mid-season and.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to get some of y'all like some of y'all get y'all outlook on this. I got to find it, though here we go. So some of these people I don't even know, starting at 25, nick Nash, rod receiver from San Jose State. Noah oh well, noah Williams from Cal, db 24. Harold Fan Jr from Bowling Green, tight end. Abdul Carter from Penn State, dn. Dion Walker, kentucky from DTAPO. Jalen Monroe, course number 20. That's crazy, maybe just because of that loss that they had.
Speaker 1:Caleb.
Speaker 2:Johnson, running back from Iowa number 19. 18 is Donovan. I'm going to butcher his name from D, number 19,. 18 is Donovan. I'm going to butcher his name From DM from Boston College. Will Johnson, db from Michigan. Shadurah Sanders, colorado. Of course he's number 16. Curtis Rook, qb from Indiana. Of course he's been playing real good. Kyle Kennard, edge from South Carolina Number 14,. Mason Graham, d-lineman from Michigan. Number 13,. Tyler Booker, o-lineman from Alabama. Jeremiah Smith, ohio State, wide receiver, freshman, number 11. 32 receptions, 553 yards and 7 TDs. Damn, I'm about to see who they got in front of me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 2:Everybody else is juniors and seniors. Derek Hammond, d-lineman from Oregon, number 10, junior Ryan Williams, okay, freshman from Alabama. He right there, winning with 23 catches, 576 and 6 TDs, and he younger that's what I'm saying a freshman from Alabama.
Speaker 3:He right there, winning with 23 catches 576 and 6 TDs.
Speaker 2:And he younger, that's what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's crazy, I can't say his name. Nick Scrouton, d lineman from Texas, a&m. Trey Harris, wide receiver from Ole Miss 59 catches. He plays 59 catches for 987 and 6 TDs. So Will Campbell, offensive tackle, lsu catches for 987 and 6 TDs. Will Campbell, offensive tackle LSU. Junior. Dylan Gabriel, number five, oregon, senior 1,700 yards well, almost 1,800 yards 13 TDs. Kevin Banks Jr from Texas O-lineman. Travis Hunter, wide receiver from Colorado 49 catches, 587, 60 TDs. And I only think he's that high because playing defensive end, also Because his numbers ain't better than the other two receivers behind him. But, like I said, I think playing on defense gets him up to three.
Speaker 4:I also think it's kind of subjective too, because you know, like me, I'm a circumstance person Not saying that this is true for him. But you got to look at it, Guys, getting doubled or you know, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but if he passes the eye test for sure, if you throw anything around his catching radius he's going to catch it. Even if he's got to go through somebody, pass interference, whatever, he's going to catch it. So I think people give he gets the benefit of the doubt for that.
Speaker 2:Okay, I agree with that. Cam Ward, number two, and then A'shaun Gentley, which he should be Turning, running back from Boise State. His numbers is Outrageous.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's like a Video game player For real.
Speaker 2:Man, he's gonna Pace the right. Barry Sanders record.
Speaker 3:It's insane. He's gonna Pace a lot A thousand or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah he can Almost run for Three thousand If he stay on this and you gotta think he's haven't even been. Boise State has been winning and blowing teams out for the most part, but he hasn't really been playing a lot of second halves.
Speaker 4:Nope, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:So just imagine if he had played four games, like the carries between him and Barry where they was at this point in the season is almost like 100 less, almost Like it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4:First down every time he runs the ball. Not even touches runs the ball.
Speaker 3:It's wild, it's wild yeah.
Speaker 2:Wild, so right now posted three games with more than 200 yards rushing. His lowest rushing total game was 127. Like that's crazy 17 touchdowns.
Speaker 2:Yeah he's nuts. Yeah, he's averaging 9.9 yards a carry. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Um, so, yeah, man, that's the top 25, um, I don't know. I mean, I guess, d-line man, I guess you got to get on some shine and o-line man, you got to get on some shine too. But I mean a lot of these like, uh, jeremiah smith, I think he, I think he could have been top 10, um, but it's hard to put numbers on deal, I mean on old linemen and stuff like that. Uh, even with ryan williams being nine, I think, even if you put, uh, if you put smith at at 10 instead of 11, just to crack again, crack the top 10, I think that's's better than giving it to Oregon. But I guess, with Oregon them just losing to Oregon, I guess that plays a little part on there too. That's my only thing. I mean Jalen Monroe, of course I wish he was at least top 15. But again, he's been struggling and they got Tennessee coming up, so who knows what's about to happen, it's going to be some good ones this Saturday, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, definitely. We're about to talk about that right now. Looking at this gift, this is about to be a gauntlet.
Speaker 4:Damn John, is that your dog, bro?
Speaker 3:Yes. Going crazy Going nuts out there.
Speaker 2:I mean you get Oregon and Purdue man they play Friday. And then you got Oklahoma State and BYU, which Oklahoma State Big 12 matchup. So that's, you got Oklahoma State and BYU, which Oklahoma State Big 12 matchup. So that's going to be tough for BYU, even though BYU has been going crazy right now. They undefeated. But then Saturday you get at 3.30 you get Tennessee, alabama. At noon you get Miami, louisville even though Louisville ain't ranked, I mean they're 4-2 and 2-1 in the ACC. So that's going to be a good game. Virginia, clemson ACC again Virginia 4-2, clemson 5-1. That's going to be a good game.
Speaker 2:You get Nebraska, indiana. So Indiana get their real first test, with Nebraska being 5-1, 2-1 in the Big Ten and, of course, indiana being undefeated. But this will be their first real test. Auburn, missouri, sec again, even though Auburn is on 2-4, again, missouri being 5-1. Just again, sec is SEC. Army plays East Carolina.
Speaker 2:These are all the ranked teams, top 25 ranked team games. But I mean that should be a pushover for them. But then you get Notre Dame, georgia Tech, georgia Tech 5-2, notre Dame 5-1. Notre Dame has to win if they want to even think about making the playoff. Illinois, michigan 4-2, 5-1. You know, 22 ranked, 24 ranked. You know, if Michigan want to, you want to climb back into that bottom 20, they need to win this game. Charlotte Navy man. But then you get Texas A&M, mississippi State man. But LSU and Arkansas another going to be another tough game. Is LSU for real? This would be a team that you know. You can really see that they don't play it a lot Arkansas 4-2. So that's not like they've been getting whooped on. So Georgia and Texas this is probably the biggest one, yes, sir. Okay then I got a question. Then, if Georgia wins, where do you put them in the rankings? Let's say Alabama wins and Georgia wins, georgia's ranked five right now. Texas is one, alabama is seven. How do you? And Ohio State?
Speaker 4:Ohio State's off this week, so they're going to hop off if they beat.
Speaker 2:And you got Oregon at two. You got Oregon at two.
Speaker 3:Well, I can't speak to what the ratings would be. I can't speak to that Georgia and Alabama hit the hit. Obviously, georgia or you know. Between those two, whoever has, you know, the better of those two is going to, you know, win, they're the ones that's going to be in front of each other, or whatever. So I mean, I don't see.
Speaker 2:Because I look at it, I think, if you look at it like this if Texas let's say Texas loses to Georgia, so they're both six and one Oregon goes up to number one. Of course Penn State will move to number two, and then you got Ohio State, georgia, alabama. Let's say Miami destroys Louis, alabama, let's say Miami destroys Louisville, let's say they win by 20. So you got an undefeated Miami, undefeated Oregon, undefeated Penn State. Is that one, two, three? And then you go what? Georgia, ohio State, alabama? In what order?
Speaker 3:Alabama's going to be in front of Georgia because, like I said, they beat them. But see Ohio State, alabama. In what order Alabama's going to be in front of Georgia because, like I, said they beat them.
Speaker 2:But see, they didn't beat Alabama.
Speaker 3:I know they lost to Vandy. I know they lost to Vandy. That hurts.
Speaker 2:We were talking about this last week, jared, but Bama beat Georgia, but Bama didn't jump Georgia in the rankings even after they won.
Speaker 4:That's how they're going to look at it. They're going to look at it. They're going to look at, obviously, the undefeateds. They're going to be ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're going to be ahead the top five undefeateds.
Speaker 2:That's what I said assume will be ahead.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying. So they'll probably look at the one-loss teams and then they'll start ranking the losses. Unfortunately for Alabama, georgia's loss to them is better than uh, alabama's loss. Alabama's loss to Vanderbilt, right, right. So I think they're going to take. So so Georgia and and uh, ohio state, well, obviously they they have the best losses. So I feel like they would be either four and five or whatever.
Speaker 2:Well, no, you got to put Texas in there, because we're saying Texas lose too, so Texas will be one loss also.
Speaker 4:Georgia man. I think Georgia has a chance. I think I could honestly see Georgia hop in an undefeated Penn State and an undefeated Miami if they beat Texas.
Speaker 2:At Texas you go Oregon one, then you go Georgia two because they beat.
Speaker 4:Texas. Now, this is all subjective, this is just me.
Speaker 2:No, this is all situational.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if Georgia goes to Texas and beats Texas, I'm okay with Georgia being number one team in the nation.
Speaker 3:Ooh.
Speaker 4:Okay, I don't, but do you get? Wait a minute? Wait a minute. I can't look at a team and say, yeah, miami's a better team than Georgia. No way.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. I wouldn't put Miami at one, I wouldn't put South State at one.
Speaker 3:I was literally just speaking to the Alabama and Georgia head-to-head Like that's the only one I would be like, yeah, I can see Bama being over Georgia because they beat them, you know. So I mean, but as far as with the rest of the field, I'm definitely not putting Miami higher than Georgia. That's not happening.
Speaker 4:I almost think that Alabama-Georgia game does more to help Georgia than it does for Alabama, as bad as it is to Vanderbilt, I think that game Even if Alabama whoops on Tennessee.
Speaker 2:Tennessee looked kind of weak though.
Speaker 4:Okay, I'm just saying with Tennessee being 5-on-1. Tennessee looked bad against Florida.
Speaker 2:Yes, they did.
Speaker 4:They looked bad against was that Arkansas the week before Tennessee. I think it's proven that they're not really who we thought they were. Okay, I think, yeah, I think Tennessee's proven that they're not really who we thought they were. So I think, yeah, I think, out of. I think tennessee might be the lowest out of the five and ones. Yeah, absolutely, maybe alabama. Then I think they'll get more in play. But if they lose to alabama two losses, I think they'll be. Yeah, they're. They're not out of the playoff picture because there's still a lot of football left, but they'll be, you know, yeah, no, absolutely, top five threat. They'll be kind of out of that picture.
Speaker 2:But I think with Oregon beating Ohio State, I don't think you put a Georgia above them period.
Speaker 4:That's true, that was a very good win for them. But, like again, subjective, yeah, no, they still really don't look good because we didn't look good. You know what I'm saying. So I feel like they played a better game than we played. We didn't play anywhere near our potential, but I think they were pretty close, because I watched Oregon against Idaho, I watched Oregon against Boise State. I've watched Oregon against these lesser teams and they really didn't look good. I think they probably scored the same amount of points against us as they did against those teams. So I feel like we had a really bad game and I feel like Oregon had an up-to-standard game and they beat us by one, where, in actuality, if you run that same scenario of that game back, I would say 90 times out of 100, we win that game. If we don't get that penalty on that pass interference, we kick a field goal, we win the game. So it's just like just watching Oregon. I'm not really so.
Speaker 2:Still, I agree with that. I'm just saying, but to put a Georgia.
Speaker 4:Especially if Georgia goes to Austin and smacks Texas, georgia's a better team than Oregon, in my opinion. Can I like, substantially like back that up with?
Speaker 2:oh, this record is this no, I think you would put I would see Georgia at two. I would say Oregon. I would probably I would put them above an undefeated Penn State. I would say Oregon, georgia, penn State, texas, ohio State and then Alabama and then Miami.
Speaker 4:Also another thing for Oregon they have to put the pause on Purdue tomorrow. I feel like if they get like a little 31-14, 31-21, yeah, nah, you got to win by 20. You got to beat them by 40, really, because Notre Dame beat them by 60-something to seven or something crazy like that. You got to win.
Speaker 2:No, you're right.
Speaker 4:They're bad at football right now. They have to go to West Lafayette and pound them. If they do that, I think they come out of the weekend number one. If Georgia loses to Texas, I mean they have to put a shellacking on them.
Speaker 2:But if Georgia Even if they beat. I think if Oregon dominates Purdue, that doesn't move them above Texas.
Speaker 4:If Texas beats Georgia, they probably will, just to be politically correct, but I think if you ask the experts who you think is the better team between a one-loss Georgia team and undefeated Oregon team at this point, the better team between a one-loss Georgia team and undefeated Oregon team at this point?
Speaker 2:I don't think anybody would say Oregon's better than Georgia. I'm sure I surely wouldn't. I don't think, I just think. Like I said, I just think the Ohio State way, even though what you're saying is right, what emphasis they're going to put on that. You know what I mean. If Oregon stay undefeated that's what I'm saying. If they go and they put the paws on Purdue, if Oregon stay undefeated that's what I'm saying Like if they go and they put the paws on Purdue, they will stay undefeated. And then, even if Texas beats Georgia, then I think Texas stay number one. I don't think they. There's no chance. Yeah, they're not going to. Oregon doesn't jump Texas at all.
Speaker 3:Not at all. Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 2:There's no chance. That's why I can't, that's why I can't. Just even at Georgia. I can put Georgia above Texas. Like I said, I can put Georgia at two max, and that's if, like you said, if they go in there and they put the paws on them. But if they win by a field goal or lose by a field goal like a two, even a two loss Georgia team, where does that drop them to?
Speaker 4:if you lose Alabama and Texas. That's how I feel about them. I agree they kind of lose to Tennessee. That's how I feel about the Saban Alabama team. We're still trying to figure out who this DeBoer Alabama team is, but the Nick Saban man, they can lose three times and I still don't want to play this.
Speaker 2:It's a different Alabama team. Yeah, I think that top five If it plays out to where Oregon and Penn State or Miami stay undefeated, I think Miami can stay at six. I don't see them being better than any of those other teams and, like I said, I think you put Oregon at one and you put Georgia at two. If they beat Texas, you put Texas at three, and then you go Ohio State, Alabama and then Miami I mean Penn State undefeated Penn State. You put them above Ohio State just for now to that game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean the team will beat the.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying. That's why I said Penn.
Speaker 2:State at three. Yeah, man, you put Penn State at three. Yeah, man, you put Penn State at three, and then you go Texas.
Speaker 4:But if you're really trying to?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you have to. You're trying to get right. No, I mean you got Penn State at three right now, with one lost Georgia team.
Speaker 4:Right, yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 2:I mean you got Ohio State at four.
Speaker 4:The fact that Penn State is 3-0, I mean, I can't honestly say that. I think that they would just beat the sleeves off IU. I feel like at this point they're kind of similar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they. I mean I agree they have to prove it, but I think Indiana, coming from under-ranked, nobody even thought that I get that, so they got to work their way up.
Speaker 4:I get that the whole entire picture, because I'm really, really, really watching these games and like I don't see it. I don't see it from Penn State, I don't see it from Oregon, I don't see it from us. I mean, I've been vocal about that, I don't see it from us either. But Texas looks, yeah, texas looks real deal. But Texas looks yeah, texas looks real deal. I'm not giving up on Alabama.
Speaker 2:Georgia looks real deal. So we'll see. And as I'm looking at the rest of the top ten, who really looks legit? Byu, maybe, Maybe, but they got to play somebody. They got to play somebody. I'm just looking at the top 25. I mean Boise State. Their only loss is to Oregon.
Speaker 2:Get them out of here, man. I mean everybody else is, I don't. I mean outside of that top five or six. I don't see it Like you said, man, it's just until you get into the heart of these schedules you know what I mean where the top is playing, the top which I think we're getting there now, but November, december, once these records start really separating themselves, yeah, michigan at 24, holding on at 4-2. You got Ole Miss at 18 at 5-2. Like all these teams really have a shot, like with this 12-team playoff, like everybody has a shot. So it's kind of hard to be like all right, like they ain't it. They ain't it Because, shoot, you got Indiana at 16, and if their only loss is the Ohio State, do you keep them out? Let's say it's a close game.
Speaker 4:They're going to kick them out, which is unfortunate, but yeah, they're not going to make it. They would have to win the Big Ten to win it. I don't even think with one loss IU makes it in. And I'm not even saying they wouldn't be worthy of it. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying just based off how I feel the voters will. You know, the committee will decide. I don't think they would let them win.
Speaker 3:The only way I see them really getting in is if they go somehow some strange way, get to the Big Ten championship and win literally or lose a close game.
Speaker 4:A close game.
Speaker 2:Let's say Ohio State, let's just hype them up.
Speaker 4:I could see them pop, but man, that's a stretch.
Speaker 3:But even then that's a stretch. That's what I'm saying. I think the guarantee way for IU is they got to win out, they got to win out and win the Big Ten.
Speaker 2:Because if you look, let's see they got Nebraska coming up, then they get Washington. They don't have anybody.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they just don't have anybody strong enough on the schedule.
Speaker 2:Ohio State is the strongest one. So let's say they one loss to y'all, only lost to Ohio State. And let's say you make it to the Big Ten Championship and you're playing Oregon and it's a close game, or you happen to beat Oregon. If you beat Oregon, then you're in. Oh yeah, I think, even if you lose Ohio State and you make it to the Big Ten Championship and you beat Oregon then you win.
Speaker 4:You win the Big Ten. You're in it regardless, but yeah.
Speaker 2:Right so, but I don't see, like you said, I can see them as a one-loss team. Like I said, the Ohio State, I see them. They can beat everybody else on this schedule with how they've been playing. So I'm being. I don't see nobody in any way.
Speaker 4:Bloomington man. Love to see it Like, about to see it Like shit Talking about a Penn State.
Speaker 2:Though you look at them, they get Ohio State in two weeks, like if that's their only loss. Penn State, who do you put in? Who do you put in over? A Penn State or an Indiana, and both?
Speaker 4:won losses. It's going to be Penn State because of the other shit. Like it's going to be Penn State, just off the, because Penn State been competing year over year. Yeah, and I can't really be mad at it, but that's not really the way that it's supposed to go. But it's going to be Penn State, bro, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 4:No doubt about it.
Speaker 2:I just had to look at the remaining schedules on that just to be like.
Speaker 4:Those are some interesting scenarios, though, like I said, I'm definitely looking forward to it Every week.
Speaker 2:we can just keep putting scenarios out, because every week is these games, like I said, with the Pac-10 coming over to the Big Ten majority. Now you're getting these ranked games every week.
Speaker 4:You're getting 125 ranked games every week. And now it's crazy because, like with with the big 10 expanded in Ohio state, just for example, their schedule being a lot loader, I think it's gonna a lot. You know, more loaded is more loaded. Yeah, I think that it's almost fit them to actually play a real non-conference game, because you're going to need it, You're going to need it, going into a conference where you're going to need it, you're going to need it. Going into a conference where you're going to have to play Penn State, you're going to have to play, uh, USC, you're going to have to play Oregon, you're going to have I mean, you can play cupcakes if you want, but I, I don't know eventually you're going to have to.
Speaker 4:You have to go through the gauntlet you're going to want to get so you can see where you are before conference play, because conference play is more, more.
Speaker 4:It's tough now you can't just schedule three teams and think you're getting ready to just skate through regular season like it's too many. Even I don't know if I mentioned michigan, like michigan penn state. Uh, you know iowa has some sneaky years. Um, you know it's, it's a lot oregon, it's a lot of teams that you're gonna have to play, play Like. So Kent State playing the UFCs and stuff. Yeah, that's Western Michigan, that shit ain't going to fly, no more.
Speaker 2:You see it, ucla like even them, like they're having a horrible year this year, but they haven't always been horrible.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like nah, you right, but even this year with them, you got to play Penn State, you got to play Indiana and Michigan. Granted, they can come out with one loss and dominate and kind of put Penn State in their place. You know what I mean. Bring Indiana down to reality and completely kick Michigan out of the top 25, if Michigan can last that long.
Speaker 4:I hope people ain't sleeping on Michigan. If we played them tomorrow, could they beat us? Yes, yep, ohio State is still not enforcing their play on other people. Michigan will still be able to dictate that game, dictate the tempo, dictate everything, just like Oregon did. We played Oregon football last Saturday. It's just like that's just been the narrative with Ohio State, like we're not going to come in and enforce our will on another team and like you can be beaten. Like I'm still not 100% certain that Ohio State will beat Michigan and this will be four in a row, which would be unprecedented.
Speaker 2:Like I'm still not 100% certain that Ohio State will beat Michigan Like and this will be four in a row, which would be unprecedented. But I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:And if you look at Michigan's schedule, like okay, they lost to Texas, but then they beat USC you know what I mean. Like they get Illinois, which is ranked number 22 next, you know they get them this week. And then they get Oregon and Indiana and Ohio State. If they steal, Michigan plays Oregon this year too. They play them November 2nd. I'm looking at their schedule right now. Let's say they're going to beat three losses. But if they beat the Indiana, if they happen to have a close Ohio State game, if they beat Indiana, if they happen to have a close Ohio State game, if they beat Illinois, like you said, Michigan can be right there at 13-14.
Speaker 4:Well, and another thing is, since they only have one, I don't know how they do the rankings for the Big Ten championship, but they only got one Big Ten loss. So, technically speaking, if they go just based on Big Ten wins and losses, they could still win out and make the Big Ten championship and blow some shit up.
Speaker 2:If they win out, that means they're going to give Oregon a loss, they're going to give Indiana a loss Shit if they win out, they're in the top five. Yeah no, absolutely Oregon and Ohio State shit with they went out. They're in the top five.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no absolutely, or if they're out of state like shit with two losses. You never got to consider ranking them in their top, at least top seven, because their losses are early. Yeah, that would be. Their losses are early and if they went out, they had good losses, like they didn't lose Absolutely Well that Washington loss was bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that Washington loss was kind of fluky, but that was kind of bad.
Speaker 2:I mean they got spanked by Texas. But even if they're close wins, even if the Illinois game is a close win, the Michigan State game is a close win, you squeak out a win at Oregon that's going to put you at least 12th Right. You can jump from 24 to 12 with a win at Oregon. And then you turn around the next week and beat Indiana. Let's say Indiana is still undefeated at that time. You turn around and beat them, you hand them their first loss. Don't matter what happened at Ohio State. If you beat Oregon, it doesn't matter what happens at Ohio State. You can still be in the playoff and possibly compete for the Big Ten championship, I think anyway.
Speaker 2:So I mean there's a lot of scenarios out here, a lot of scenarios, a lot of scenarios, man. But I can say it has brought a lot more excitement back to college football, to where you can kind of look at these schedules and you'd be like all right, man, they ain't really playing nobody until the end of the year, like now you're sprinkling, like you said. You'd be like all right, man, they ain't really playing nobody until the end of the year, like now you sprinkling, like you said, you sprinkling in a little bit more competition here and there, especially in the Big Ten and the SEC, to where now you're getting these crazy matchups early on. So I love it.
Speaker 4:I do too. I ain't mad at it. Ohio State does play Texas non-conference next year, though, so that'll be John, we might have to pull up.
Speaker 3:Nah for real, nah for real.
Speaker 2:Where is it at? Where is it at? Is it going to be in Ohio Next year?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, it'll be here, might have to pull up that. And then we play Alabama. Like I want to say 27 and 28, home and home. So that's going to be Definitely going to that, oh for sure. I can't remember which year is which, but I'll actually tell you in a second, because I actually looked at that not too long ago. So, yeah, texas is in Columbus next year, and then let's see, so that's 25-26. Man, what the All right, I wasn't looking at the right thing. So let's see 26. I know you could care less who Ohio State plays, but I'm about to tell you anyway To Austin. And then I think 27 is home against Alabama On the road to Alabama. Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2:Hey, man, like I said, just one of those matchups that you don't really get to see often it's going to have playoff implications.
Speaker 4:But I mean, I think we're going to get like the first. What is it? The first round or the first two rounds of the playoffs are actually at the college campuses, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 4:That's going to be wild, bro. You get a random ass, Ole Miss at Ohio State or something like that's going to be. Yeah and they're going to travel and these fan bases are going to travel. But hey, they're going to come up and freeze their ass off. I know that that's true too. That's true Alabama fans are not going to like playing in goddamn Happy Valley, pennsylvania, in December. They're not going to like that at all.
Speaker 2:No, no, you're right about that. See, All right, man, let's jump over to the Grown Men's League man. A couple things to talk about Trade deadline grades. So of course we all know about the Hooper trade and Devontae Adams trade. First off, I'm going to start with you, John. Who do you think won these trades?
Speaker 3:For sure. The Jets definitely are in a good space by getting Devontae back. That was Aaron Rodgers' go-to guy. I think that's a good, great avenue for them to get back on the right track. Right right now they have derailed and it's funny because I was actually just talking to somebody about this the other day, because last year that was really all the talks. Their talks was, hey, it's Super Bowl or bus here. I mean they paid all this money to Rodgers, get him there. The rest of the team was stacked and then he gets hurt in what was that? The third or fourth game of the season? Something like that it was early.
Speaker 2:No, the fourth play of the season Fourth play of the season.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. Yeah, the first game.
Speaker 2:Yes, he didn't make it out the first game he didn't make it out the first series.
Speaker 3:That's kind of what the talks were this year as well, too, for the Jets that you know hey, we good, we healthy, we can make a run, and they just have not performed. So I think this is a great avenue for them. So I think the Jets won that trade for sure. So DeMonte is, arguably he's arguably I think I would argue with it because I like Justin Jefferson a little bit more but he's arguably one of the best wide receivers in the league.
Speaker 4:So arguably, no, doubt no doubt Definitely.
Speaker 2:What do you think about the Cooper trade, Jarrett?
Speaker 4:I mean, I think you know how I feel about NFL transactions. Anytime I'm giving up a pick for a proven player, that's nothing. Unless I'm giving up a pick for a proven player, that's nothing. Unless I'm giving up a high first rounder like bro, a third rounder for Devontae Adams. Bro, you can have every third round pick the rest of my life for Devontae Adams. I'm not never tripping on that. So I mean, obviously that's a win. I can't even remember what round pick the Cooper trade was. Was that a third?
Speaker 2:too. Yeah, they got a. The Browns got a 20-25 third and a 20-26 seventh, and the Bills got Cooper and they got a 20-25 sixth.
Speaker 4:That's probably going to be guys that might not even make it for a proven stud, but, like I mean, that's easy.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah but I think that gives them a weapon on the outside which they use For sure.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man, Come on man.
Speaker 2:Outside of him and his drops, because he has a lot of drops. But most of the time, he's one of the best receivers outside of numbers. Really good deep threat he can win Like he's. Yeah, he definitely can win. Yeah, he averages 14 yards error per target. Like yeah, no, he's.
Speaker 4:That's going to be clutch. I love to see teams do things to actually make their teams. That makes sense In better positions. That's why I don't understand why some of the sad teams just stay sad, because it's just like there's things you can do to make your team good, there's things you can do to put your team in a better position to compete. Some teams do it, some teams don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what about the Cam Akers trade from the Houston Texans? He goes to Minnesota.
Speaker 4:Ooh, minnesota. I think that's cool man. I think Mixon came in there and stole the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Because they still have another. Do they still have Pierce Yep? There's no need for him. So anything you get back for him is a plus. There's no need for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got a six-round pick a 25-6, but they gave up a 26-7 with Cam Akers.
Speaker 4:But I think that works out for both teams Again, I won't even make the team, so yeah, I'm doing that trade.
Speaker 2:All day. I have something else I wanted to talk about some potential trades, just teams that have needs. If I can find this, I'll be having all this stuff laid out and then I get in here and I can't find it, it's all good. Here we go. So Chiefs going after DeAndre Hopkins possibly and all these are teams that's making offers that's been out there that could happen before the trade deadline A fifth round pick for DeAndre Hopkins? Do the Chiefs?
Speaker 3:need anything else.
Speaker 2:Well, I think, with Rasheed Rice getting hurt, these other receivers just really ain't been Breaking out. Can you really just Depend on a Juju Like Nicole Hartman? He's a returner, can't really run him crazy. Rardy is a rookie. You gotta get somebody in there who can Win one on ones that's gonna draw the defense to them, like you got to get somebody in there who can, like you said, win one-on-ones that's going to draw the defense to them. And you know, take some pressure off Kelsey. Yeah. So I think a fifth for DeAndre Hopkins. I think that's a win.
Speaker 4:That's a free transaction.
Speaker 2:And he only owes 6 million over the remainder of this season. I mean he's 32, but he'll be a free agent next year anyway. So for a one-year rental, and who knows what happens if y'all win another chip. I mean he'd come back on a cheaper contract just to stay Well.
Speaker 4:Definitely he would have a chance at winning contract. Just to stay, I don't know. Definitely he would have a chance at winning, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:The Lions. What about the Lions going after Hussein Reddick the Jets? They're obviously not going to pay. The Lions just lost a pass, rusher A six-round 26-pitch. And moving to the Lions, get rid of the headache, move on. Because you don't have the money. Now that you got Devontae Adams, because you're going to give him a new contract. You got to Ain't no way, you just traded for him for one year, so you're going to give him a new contract which is going to eat up the cap that you're not going to be able to pay Redick anyway. So why?
Speaker 1:not just move him.
Speaker 2:Why not just move him? I think he's acquired about $5 million in fines too for not reporting Stupid.
Speaker 4:That's the most idiotic thing ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I think you moving Dolphins and the Panthers, why don't you move Bryce Young? Get a fourth-round pick, make it conditional Dolphins, get a QB. They can possibly possibly make him competent. I mean, who knows what's going to happen with Latua? You force him into retirement I'm sure there's an injury causing that contract to where you know what I mean if he don't play a certain amount of games or early retirement or concussion protocol or something like that to where you can probably get out of it without having to pay nothing but the guarantee. Bring in Bryce Young. Mcdaniel's been good. I mean Tua's a small quarterback too. They come from the same system, they come from saving. Do y'all think that might work? And it's a reset for Bryce Young in a competent organization for now.
Speaker 4:I think pride is going to keep him around in Carolina a little longer, Bro, if they trade him that quickly. You basically are just basically admitting that you suck at life.
Speaker 2:But we are talking about the Panthers and we've seen worse trades from them. Yeah, you look back to the DJ Moore trade. You look back to the who's, the D-lineman, brian Burns trade to New York, like they've done dumber trades.
Speaker 4:They're idiots, bro. Moron organization. Yeah, bro, hey, we'd have to see.
Speaker 2:We'd have to see, I mean, because chances are y'all going to get another first-round pick and there's more QBs coming out this year, so you're probably going to get another QB anyway. I mean Andy Dalton, you don't need to ride him so long, false, false, but and then it gives it kind of gives the Dolphins an option where you ain't got to pay that much. You know what I mean. Even if you buy out Tua's contract and force him into retirement or even cut him based on injuries, then you're still coming in with another young quarterback.
Speaker 4:Right, I don't know. I think they might get another year, I don't know. But like I said, man, I can't really blame Bryce Young. The team is terrible.
Speaker 2:No, no, not at all.
Speaker 4:I don't even know what they were even expecting. The team is terrible.
Speaker 2:I agree. Another notable one Mike Williams to the Steelers from the Jets. Now you bring in Devontae Adams. Mike Williams had been struggling anyway, but you throw him on a Steeler team where they just need some more depth at receiver and some guys that can, you know, go across the middle. They don't throw the ball across the middle for some reason. But another big target he's not owed a lot of money less than a million for this year. That gives them a receiver. They were trying to get Brandon Ayuk. Why not grab a Mike Williams, somebody cheap that can help you know immediately with your quarterback curfew. So yeah, that's really is a noticeable ones.
Speaker 2:I mean coach, get Elam from the bills for former first-round corner because our corner has been banged up and we don't have a lot of depth at that position. He's been riding the bench. He's only played 23 defensive snaps since 2024. I mean this year only 23 snaps. He's only owed a million and a half. I mean 6'1" we like tall DBs anyway and exercise his fifth-year option and give up a six-round pick from next year. Help out some depth. But yeah, I mean that's. All the other ones are pretty. I mean Mal Sanders to the Chiefs from the Panthers to help out their running back, just with all the injuries they've been having and Carson Steele not looking like he can hold on to the ball.
Speaker 4:Shout out to him, though he from here. Yeah, he just fumbles too much. And that's unfortunate, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so that's all. That's unfortunate. But yeah, so that's all I got. Man, that's all I got. I guess we can go on to final thoughts. Man, we're coming up on the hour. Oh no, pick them records. So last week I went 8-6, jerry, you went 12-2. Okay, frank went 11-. You went 12-2. Okay, drake went 11-3. Justin went 12-2. I'm the only one that didn't hit double digits in picks.
Speaker 3:You got a lot of faith in these teams, right? That's what it sounds like. I know man.
Speaker 2:It's just the way I pick is weird, but I can never pick anybody from the AFC South to win. I never pick the Patriots to win unless they're playing somebody from the AFC South Coach can be playing a. Pro Bowl team and he going to pick I pick the Colts, no matter what.
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it sets me back a few, yeah, it sets me back a few, ooh. But yeah, man, I'm going to go through Our picks this week, jerry, since it's just me. You want more right now. Pick New Orleans For the night. I did you pick Denver. I pick the Colts Over the Dolphins. I pick New England over the Tex, over the Jaguars.
Speaker 4:They're playing Look this good so I can do England over the Jaguars. They're playing. Look, this is good.
Speaker 2:So I can do this in the right order. I picked Seattle over Atlanta. You picked Atlanta. Who made you pick Atlanta Over Seattle?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm just curious.
Speaker 4:Seattle's garbage. Oh, okay, I feel like Kirk Cousins is playing better than Geno. I feel like, give me Bijon. I think Atlanta's at the crib. Yeah, atlanta's got the momentum. Like, I mean, seahawks have struggled. I think they might have lost two or three in a row. I just don't think that they're really good. I didn't think that they were really good last year, but they played above what. I'm just not. I just think Atlanta's the better team, not by a whole lot, but yeah, I'm just wondering. No politics or nothing, I just Both picked the Bills over Tennessee.
Speaker 2:I picked Cincy over Cleveland. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I did too.
Speaker 2:Yep, you did, too Picked Green Bay over Houston. That's going to be a good game, though, against the Texans. I just want Green Bay to win, I just need the Houston to lose.
Speaker 4:That's what would be messing him up Not necessarily this week, but that kind of stuff would be messing your record up, bro.
Speaker 2:I know, I just wish for thinking I would just be picking in the best interest of the Colts. We both picked the Colts over Miami, minnesota and Detroit. That's going to be another good game. You pick Detroit, I pick Detroit also. I just think it's time for Minnesota to lose Philly and New York. I pick Philly even though Philly has not looked good and New York has not looked good either Not at all.
Speaker 3:Not at all.
Speaker 2:Vegas and the Rams I pick the Rams. I think you picked the Raiders. Yeah, I just think this is one of them games the Rams Can win, like this is one of them games. Vegas who knows what's going on in Vegas right now. I think the Rams Come away with that one. Washington and Carolina of course I picked Washington, Even though they lost last week To a good team. Carolina Still, Even though they lost last week to a good team. Carolina's still horrible, even though they're playing slightly better.
Speaker 2:Kansas City and San Francisco that's going to be an awesome game. Pick Kansas City I think coming off a bye San Francisco's still with their injuries. I think you give Kansas City two weeks to prepare for a San Francisco team. I think they come out ahead weeks to prepare for a San Francisco team. I think they come out ahead, even though this kind of should be a revenge game for San Francisco in the Super Bowl. You pick San Fran, New York and Pitt I think New York wins, Hopefully. I'm hoping that the Jets offense get on track against Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh against their defense is just phenomenal, but I don't think Pittsburgh scored enough points, especially with Russell Wilson starting. We know what the offense is going to be. We get two Monday night games. You get Baltimore and Tampa Bay, which would be another good game. I picked Tampa Bay. Baltimore still hasn't proved they can stop the pass and I'm drawing a blank on his name Quarterback Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:Baker Baker Mayfield has been playing real good. Him and Mike Evans have a great connection Shout out to me man.
Speaker 4:I called the Baker resurgence.
Speaker 3:He's been balling. Though, he's been balling.
Speaker 2:I think that goes to what we be saying. Sometimes we put a lot of weight on the QBs and their win-losses and playoffs and all this other stuff. But being in the right situation, like the right organization with the right staff and then the right weapons, can make a quarterback. It can, Like you said. You look at the Geno Smiths.
Speaker 4:He said what he did have three or four turnovers Sunday, but I just wasn't sold on that. He was a bust. I had seen him too many times, like he used to murder us. Like I'm like nah, I can't even.
Speaker 2:I ain't about to see Sander Baker Mayfield, but then you look at like what he did the couple games at the Rams. You know what I mean, just walking in off the street he played well.
Speaker 2:So that kind of proved like when you can see a guy go into many systems and play well, even like you look at what's going on in Minnesota, drawing a blank on his name too Quarterback, yeah, quarterback in Minnesota, sam Darnold. Sam Darnold, you look at his journey, how he goes from Carolina to San Francisco to now Minnesota, and he's in the right place with offensive-minded coaching. You know what I mean. Sitting behind Shanahan and going through his offense and seeing how the position is supposed to be played. Guys can come back and be good NFL quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:So you get Los Angeles and Arizona. That's going to be a tough game and that's the late game too. So I doubt many people jump over to that game. But I picked the Chargers, even though Arizona has been. I don't think they're. I don't think they're coached well enough To beat the Chargers. They still haven't figured out a way To maximize Marvin Harrison Jr. I don't think they're coached well enough to beat the Chargers. They still haven't figured out a way to maximize Marvin Harrison Jr yet. I don't think he had any stats last week almost.
Speaker 2:No he didn't they figure out their offense? Yeah, I don't see Arizona being a factor right now. And then you got Chicago right now on the bye and Dallas on the bye. So that's why we get two Monday night games, so only two teams on the bye this week instead of four. So yeah, man, With that man, that's all I got man. Gotcha gotcha Any final thoughts we defunding anything tonight.
Speaker 4:Nah, I don't really have nothing tonight, man, but I'll be back.
Speaker 2:John, any final thoughts?
Speaker 3:I don't have anything.
Speaker 2:Anything we didn't touch on.
Speaker 3:I think everything was touched on. I don't have anything. I just know that my boys better come to play in the next week when they play Nebraska, because they got some work to do. I'm going to just go out here and say it, because I already talked to Jared about it. I'm done with Coach Day. He got to go.
Speaker 4:It's time for him to go. I was never going to play on this bro Time to go.
Speaker 2:Wow Okay, hey, look man, I ain't angry at him, man.
Speaker 4:I'm not proactively for that, but I'm not against it either. So I'm not like, because I'm not just saying that he's weak, but if that was the move, I'm rolling with it. So that's why I'm kind of like I mean shit, if we're going to fire him, cool.
Speaker 3:I saw a stat. He's an amazing coach when it comes to regular games.
Speaker 4:He rarely loses to people that he shouldn't lose to.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, but I think I saw a stat where he's like two of six in the big games.
Speaker 4:Two and seven, two.
Speaker 3:and seven I'm sorry, two and seven in the big games. So that matters. I'm sorry that matters. He's had so much talent that's rolled through Ohio State in these past few years. I mean arguably just in the wide receivers alone. I think he's probably produced what the top four, five, six wide receivers in these past couple of seasons.
Speaker 4:I mean, we've had some guys.
Speaker 3:We've had some guys and he's just not getting it done. I'm sorry, it might be time. It might be time.
Speaker 4:Hey.
Speaker 2:I'm right, hey, no comment from me, man.
Speaker 4:No comment I don't know who we would get, but I'm cool with that Get him out of here when I say get him out of here.
Speaker 3:Get him out of here. We got to, we got to it. It might be time to part ways. I'm just saying Only thing that saves him for me this year and really even then I'm still thinking about it is a championship.
Speaker 2:Anything less than the championship. So what? A Big Ten, no, a Natty hey hey, hey, I'm just clarifying so people may be listening.
Speaker 3:A Natty, a Natty.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, hey Can't argue with that man With that being said we got the best team money can buy.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying Make it happen.
Speaker 2:I did hear y'all got a $20 million roster over there.
Speaker 4:It's something crazy. It's crazy for sure.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of NIL man.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you Booming. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, this has been the Epic Podcast man. We will see y'all next week. Peace, Peace out.