E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
S3 Ep. 2 Weekend Sports Recap: College Football Rankings, NFL Insights, and Quarterback Highlights
Get ready for an electrifying sports weekend recap with our special guest from the Morning Smoke Podcast! You'll gain unique insights into college and NFL football highlights, starting with the Buckeyes' latest game. Our guest shares their satisfaction with the team's performance, while Jared breaks down the game's intricacies. We also explore the Colts' run defense, Alec Pierce's potential, and indulge in some lighthearted sports betting banter.
Switching gears, we dive into the latest college football rankings, with Georgia holding the top spot. We discuss early-season performances, the impact of the strength of schedule on rankings, and the implications for Big Ten and SEC teams. Our conversation covers Oregon's unexpected struggles, USC's promising start, and the potential playoff positions influenced by conference championships. Prepare for some laughs as we navigate technical difficulties and share our excitement for the unfolding season.
In our NFL segment, we critically examine the Bengals' performance, addressing drafting issues and preseason preparation. We also delve into the Ravens' offensive strategy and the Colts' divisional challenges. With a focus on the development of young quarterbacks like Joe Burrow and Justin Fields, we emphasize the importance of patience and preseason readiness. Finally, we analyze a recent football game, highlighting quarterback performance and divisional competition, before discussing Tyreek Hill's police encounter and the broader issues of respect and compliance during traffic stops. Join us for this action-packed episode!
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Speaker 3:Um, I had the wrong screen up um week. Two, man, we in the house again Me, jared and we got a special guest today Joining us from the Morning Smoke Podcast. Is that still a thing, man?
Speaker 4:Man, that's a whole other conversation, for a whole other day.
Speaker 3:I will give y'all a shout out.
Speaker 4:We still out there, though it's still stuff out there.
Speaker 3:I got John man, who joined us for the first time. Man, we appreciate you coming through.
Speaker 4:Yes sir, yes sir, Appreciate the opportunity All right.
Speaker 3:So usually how we start off, man, we just ask how your sports weekend was, man. So since you you know you are guests, we're going to start with you.
Speaker 4:It was good. You know I'm, as you can see, big Buckeye fan, you know joining the show, so that's, that's always good and I'm pretty sure we'll get into it later on the show. But we I'm happy with our performance this week, Not not as much last week. This week I was. I was definitely happy with the performance, but other than that it's been. It was some good football this weekend from college to NFL, so it was a really really good weekend for sports, for football more specifically. So yeah, it was good, it was good.
Speaker 3:All right? Oh man, I'm scared to ask this, jared, we're just kind of hitting at it.
Speaker 5:Big Buckeye fan here too. So I mean I'm rocking with that win. Of course I mean we didn't beat nobody. But I look into the details of the game. Games aren't just wins and losses. With me, Like you know, 52 to nothing can go a couple different ways. Is it all defense? Was none of the offensive players working? Were we having to go 10,-13 play drives against a nobody? Were they quick hitters? Did the backups get a lot of reps? So all of that stuff is what goes into whether or not I say this is a good game, regardless of the wins, losses and the scores. Of the wins, losses and the scores. All of that happened. I mean we got to see three quarterbacks, three or four running backs, so we were able to get some backups in. We took care of business early. We didn't go through those little spells where we are struggling. So all systems go with that.
Speaker 5:Okay, no, I'm done, and then Sunday came.
Speaker 3:I got to respect that man. My sports recently was decent man Again. Like you know, my coach didn't play the way I thought.
Speaker 3:I mean I ain't gonna take that. I take that back. They did not play bad, we just gotta work on our run defense. Just gotta work on our run defense. There's a lot of potential. Ali Pierce showed me something, Even though this is only one week. Play bad, we just got to work on our run defense. That's all I'm going to say. Just got to work on the run defense. There's a lot of potential. Alec Pierce showed me something, even though this is only one week. I was kind of writing him off, especially with Mitchell coming in. I was kind of like, eh, we can kind of bump him down to four, whatever, whatever. But hey, he really showed up playing the number two and being a deep threat. I think he can be that if he just stays consistent, Like he'll probably disappear next game Hopefully not, but yeah. But my weekend was good. Man. Had some highs and lows, man, but you know it's sports for you.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't sweat the coast and won zero bets.
Speaker 3:I placed a couple bets. I won zero.
Speaker 5:So, jerry, you ain't in the zero bet thing by yourself, man, I've never, never, won anything. Only time I've won a bet is when I bet it on both, both, both entities I remember once I think it was the chiefs and the 49ers. Uh, I bet on both teams, so of course you'll hit somewhere yeah, that's as far as it it goes with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely. So let's get into this. Let's get into the start. We're going to start with college football man, and kind of recap this week that just passed. So first off, let's talk about it. Let's just talk about the rankings, the current rankings and where they are right now. So right now we have, of course, georgia first, which they've just been dominating. Being Georgia, texas jumps up to number two from number four. No, they weren't number four, yeah, they was. So they're number two. Now, just on the strength, ohio State drops down to three, which I think that's just basically because they haven't played anybody. You got alabama at four, old miss at five, missouri at six all these teams are 2-0, by the way. Tennessee at seven, uh penn state at eight. You got oregon at nine, miami at 10, usc at 11 and uh utah at 12. That rounds up the playoffs. All those teams are 2-0. After that, at 13, you got Oklahoma State, kent State and Oklahoma all 2-0, and that's 13.
Speaker 2:Everybody else at least has one loss, until you get down to 19, 20, 21. That's Louisville, arizona. Iowa State what they win is Nebraska is 2-0. Also at 23, iowa State what they win is Nebraska's 2-0, also a 23. Boston College what they win over Florida State, that gets them a 24th position at 2-0.
Speaker 3:So a lot of 2-0 teams, a couple of 1-1 teams, which your LSU is, your Michigans and Notre Dames but I think that's just all name, because all those have bad losses.
Speaker 2:So who knows if they can squeak into the playoffs with what happens in the top 12.
Speaker 3:Any outliers, y'all see Anybody who strength of schedule may affect their ranking. Right now y'all thinking or does this top, let's say 15, look solid.
Speaker 5:I wouldn't go as far as to say that yet, but I definitely thought Oregon would look a lot better than they've been looking. They struggled against Boise State and then last week they played Idaho. Was it Idaho?
Speaker 3:No, I forgot who it was. I can tell you right now.
Speaker 5:It was one of them white and brown teams. It was either Idaho or white and brown.
Speaker 4:That's a great way to.
Speaker 3:Wonderful depiction. No, it was Boise. It was Boise State.
Speaker 5:They played Boise State Well yeah, that was this past weekend, but the weekend before they played.
Speaker 4:Oh, week one they played.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they did play. Idaho or Wyoming, one of them.
Speaker 4:They played Idaho, idaho.
Speaker 3:Idaho.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it was Idaho, and it was 24-14 against Idaho yeah and I watched they struggled a great deal there as well, so I wasn't really expecting that, so we'll see. As that goes on, I thought USC looked pretty good.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 5:So you know I was mildly impressed with what USC has done so far. Yeah, man, it's an exciting season so far.
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely, I thought it was. I ain't gonna say I thought, but I think we all thought that we were going to get this type of brand of football, especially with them kind of merging, you know the pack 10 kind of being no more um, and you know these teams jump in between the I guess you could really say the big three, even though there's five. Uh, I still think that we're going to get. We got a lot of good football ahead of us and a lot of this is going to change because a lot of these teams play each other. You're going to have championships game to dictate people's positioning in the playoff and it may be some some, some ACC teams sneaking in there competing especially for those bottom two slots, I think at 11 and 12, and then they're competing especially for those bottom two slots, I think at 11 and 12. But I think majority up top is probably going to be Big Ten and SEC, just because strength of schedule and the way they play each other.
Speaker 5:The thing is crazy, I believe an ACC champion automatically gets a top five spot. Oh wow, they're doing a playoff.
Speaker 4:That sounds about right.
Speaker 5:So, whoever wins that conference is going to be, you know, top four, top five. One of those Top five, I believe.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, shoot Dang. Hey, that's love, mm-hmm.
Speaker 5:I mean.
Speaker 3:We got Jeff standing here with us too. Sorry if nobody's seen it. He kind of snuck in quietly. Hey yo, and his screen is forward. We can't hear you right now.
Speaker 6:I'm leaving. I didn't know he was on here, you didn't know he was on here.
Speaker 3:We still can't hear you. We can't hear you.
Speaker 4:See, that's what you get Coming in hot. See, it'll get you every time.
Speaker 3:Come in with that gangster mentality, see. You'll pull up the cord on yourself.
Speaker 4:Just like a big brother, ain't he? Just come in talking crazy, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Going for pure embarrassment. Oh, we got technical difficulty, all right.
Speaker 4:As far as with the top 25, I'm happy with it. The only one that I was like I could see them. They should go down and that's Penn State. They struggled in that game. There's no way Bowling Green should have 27 points on the board. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5:You were winning a lot of that game as well.
Speaker 4:So I was like you know, penn State had a lot of big talks, I mean, coming into this season, as they do every year, but this year they were like, yeah, we can see them making it into the playoffs, yada, yada, yada. Me personally, I'm like no, but I'm just saying for a game of Bowling Green, like we're talking.
Speaker 4:Bowling Green nothing against the program, but it's Bowling Green. There's no way they should have hung 27 points on them. And I said the team that should have probably moved up a little bit more is Miami. Miami they played. Their first two games have been dominant games. I think they should have moved up a little bit higher on the 25. Other than that, I'm happy with the 25. I definitely agree with Oregon. They're shocking me too. It's actually making me feel good leading up to when we play them. I've definitely shocked about Oregon. We play them. I've definitely started to doubt about Oregon right now too. I think they got it right for week two so far, okay.
Speaker 3:Justin, we were just talking about the college football rankings. You got any comments on that, any discrepancies you see in that right now, even though it's only week two aka week three, I ain't even seen the new rankings.
Speaker 6:All right now, even though it's only week two, aka week three, I ain't even seen the new rankings all right.
Speaker 3:So you got georgia one, texas two, um ohio state three, alabama four, omiss five. You got missouri at six, tennessee at seven, penn state at eight, usc at 11, utah at 12, oklahoma State at 13, and Kent State at 14, ou at 15. Are you saying Kent State?
Speaker 5:I mean Kansas State oh okay, yeah, yeah yeah, kansas State.
Speaker 3:The writing is very small, but nonetheless, I mean that's top 15.
Speaker 6:I mean it's early, but I have to agree with what Fitz has said. I think, from what I've seen from Miami, miami looked like they actually might be decent this year. Oregon as well, but I'll admit this I never really paid much attention to Texas until I saw them dominate Michigan this weekend and as a matter of fact, I think I even texted Fitz during that game. I said I haven't seen. I mean, Texas is good man.
Speaker 6:At all levels they good. I just I don't know. Texas is going to be good. I think that sleeper team is going to be Tennessee.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they good too. Tennessee's good too.
Speaker 6:They got a freshman quarterback Nico Nico nice, nico nice, nico nice.
Speaker 5:I mean they beat the sleeves off of North Carolina State.
Speaker 4:Not for real, not for real.
Speaker 5:They got them out of here.
Speaker 6:Hey, y'all remember on Rocky when the trainer he tried to throw in the towel. He was like stop, stop, that's how it felt.
Speaker 4:It's like dang y'all beating the mess out of these boys. It sure is boy.
Speaker 3:So, yeah. So with that, yeah, no man, I agree. Like Miami's looking good, oregon's been struggling. I think they're going to definitely get their offense and I mean their defense together before they start going against some of these big 10 teams because that ain't going to fly, yeah for sure. Again, big 10 teams, because that ain't going to fly Again. Tennessee's looking good. The bottom I'm really looking at the bottom half and who may creep up? Nebraska.
Speaker 4:I was about to say they might creep.
Speaker 5:I just said it. I just said it.
Speaker 4:I just thought about it. I was like they might creep up.
Speaker 3:Nebraska, Arizona. Both look tough, Very, very tough, and when we're going to talk I might as well get into this Notre Dame loss. But that loss and their strength of schedule coming up, I don't know if they make it.
Speaker 4:It's tough sledding. I tell you that If they can't get these early ones out the way, it's tough sledding.
Speaker 6:I just really don't see them making it. Is NIU going to be?
Speaker 4:ranked after beating notre dame, or am I? Am I missing?
Speaker 2:something they are, they're 25, okay, okay, okay, I just that's a huge win.
Speaker 6:Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. You gotta have some kind of respect. And then can one of y'all tell me because I, I don't know and I'm not trying to be uh when I say it I did watch Oklahoma State play Arkansas. That was a good game.
Speaker 6:But, they always play each other tough. Yeah, and I was shocked. That was one of them games where Arkansas's running back got hurt, I think Jackson, he didn't play towards the end, so I know that hurt him. But is USC that good? And then, because I haven't seen them play, so I don't know if any of y'all have actually watched USC play Like, is USC really that good? And then the other question is is LSU going to be good this year?
Speaker 4:I have more faith in USC than I do LSU.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5:I like some of the things that I saw USC do. Rather that game on last John. What was that Monday? Yeah, that was Sunday night.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Sunday night.
Speaker 5:That was one of the best games. It was a great game. It was. It was Great game, great game.
Speaker 4:I'm just not a believer. I mean I'm not a believer of Brian Kelly where he is now. Now, if he was still at Notre Dame I think I have more faith in him because he had success there, like he did great every year. I mean they have like one of the winningest programs in like college football, but he just hasn't produced like that at LSU since he's been there. Like, even though he's getting the more talent and things of that nature, I haven't really seen him like I haven't seen him carry that same success that he came with from Notre Dame. And maybe it's just too early to say.
Speaker 3:but I don't think so, because when you're coming from a pristine program like a Notre Dame and you're going to one that's damn near just as pristine in an LSU, it's not like you're trying to bring up a lesser program or a program that has I mean, it's not going to get the prospects or the recruits and stuff like that. You have all the resources. If not, maybe more at LSU.
Speaker 4:Which is why I questioned Brian Kelly, which is why I questioned it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah so, but do you give USC more credit for the win or do you take something away from LSU? You know what I mean? I don't know. We didn't really tell that we didn't have to see them against LSU. That's what I'm saying. That was a tough game for both of them. It wasn't dominating. The game could have went either way, but I don't know. I mean, I think lsu, like you said, they have 16 and I think they're their own names, like michigan and notre dame sitting there at 16, 17, 18, and I think that's pure name, because anybody else, with the losses that they have to the teams they lost to, wouldn't be there. They would be out of the top 25. So I think they think they may bounce back based on name.
Speaker 4:So well, I mean they're, they're SEC team. We all know America loves the SEC.
Speaker 3:So, but also too, like I mean you got, we have to look at strength of schedules at LSU, you know what I mean Michigan and Notre Dame coming up, which Notre Dame has the softest one. If anything, I probably would have put Notre Dame down a little lower, maybe 22, 23, and bumped up like a Nebraska or even a Clemson a little bit Nebraska.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know about Clemson, but Nebraska maybe.
Speaker 3:I mean right now, when you look at them play, does Notre Dame look better than Clemson? No, I mean not the last time. You can't sit here and say Notre Dame look better than Clemson.
Speaker 4:Nah, I mean not the last game. You can't sit here and say that they're better than Clemson.
Speaker 3:I mean, there's only two games, but I don't sit here and say dang Clemson's nowhere close to Notre Dame. I would have them 21-22.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I guess I just expect more out of Clemson. I think that's what it is really.
Speaker 5:Clemson need to get with the times and get in the transfer portal. You know they're one of the only teams that didn't get any transfers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's true, that is true.
Speaker 5:Navy and the Army. Obviously you can't transfer from.
Speaker 4:South.
Speaker 5:Dakota State to the Navy you know, what I'm saying. They're the only team, basically, basically that's involved in transfers, that haven't gotten that's not involved in transfers, pretty much I mean can you even transfer to Navy.
Speaker 4:I mean, I feel like you gotta go through. I feel like you gotta go be recruited like you're going to the forces.
Speaker 3:I mean like that's a whole thing.
Speaker 5:I don't know if you could just get transferred there like I think you guys that's why they were saying that they're one of, like the only three teams that didn't get any transfers, because you can't transfer to Army. You can't transfer to the Navy the Air Force. You can't just transfer there. You gotta sign like a what four year commitment out of high school yeah, it's like you school, it's like you're going to the military so do they
Speaker 5:the army and Clemson are the only teams that didn't get any transfers so is that because they just choose not to, or that?
Speaker 3:was their choice, definitely their choice why be stubborn like literally it takes one or two players to turn a program around. That was their choice. Yeah, definitely their choice. Like, why be stubborn? Like, literally, it takes one or two players to turn a program around. Yeah, for sure. Well, think about it. That's how great these players are now.
Speaker 4:It really took Marcus Friedman got to Notre Dame before they actually started really doing something to their program like that. They didn't really transfer or do stuff like that. That's true too.
Speaker 3:That's true too, but I transfer and do stuff like that. That's true too, but Notre Dame it wasn't like again in Clemson. I guess you could say the same thing. They were always competing but I guess academically to go to Notre Dame, I heard it's tough.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I can see that we're not getting the prospects the other teams get, necessarily, because a lot of them don't qualify to be here academically. A few schools like that.
Speaker 5:Stanford is like that as well. Of course, the Ivy Leagues. You can't just walk into a school. That definitely puts you at a disadvantage, but I feel like the prestige and academics offset any athletic success.
Speaker 4:It makes sense.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, let's jump over to the NFL and recap week one. In the NFL, man, there's a lot going on. Man, a whole lot going on. So we're going to get this out the way early. Jarrett, go ahead and start with your bingos. Man, what's going?
Speaker 5:on man. It's been the same stuff that I've been telling you all through the years.
Speaker 2:Get this out the way, because I already know what you're doing the roster just isn't good.
Speaker 5:I mean I feel like we definitely have a bottom five to seven roster in the league. I mean we can name out the teams that have worse rosters, but top to bottom. We can name out the teams that you know what I'm saying have worse rosters but top to bottom. And then, especially when you got Joe Burrow playing like Derek Carr the first few games of every season, like that's not going to help you, it's like he doesn't even wait until week three or week four and this has been a recurring theme, you know the last two or three seasons.
Speaker 5:We don't draft well, no-transcript, nobody on the line, no dynamic linebackers. We keep drafting defensive linemen they all suck. We keep drafting DBs they all suck. We keep drafting offensive people. We never even give them a try. Man, same old, same old man. I've been living this for 35 years like same old, same old.
Speaker 5:So people are saying, oh, that's the biggest upset, I guess according to the spread it was. But like, was anybody really surprised that the Bengals went out there on opening day and laid an egg? I'm not. I'm certainly not surprised, and I've watched, you know, every down for the past few years. So I mean, it is what it is Same same, cheap stuff. You know we're never going to get the best player available at whatever position we're trying to fill. We, you know, we're never going to draft the best person available in any position. It's like we almost draft hoping that the player doesn't turn out to anything. So we don't have to pay anybody good, which I mean if you draft somebody good, you can't pay them when it's time to pay them, trade them, but that's rocket science to the Bengals. So I mean it is what it is, hopefully.
Speaker 2:Burrow wakes up in Kansas City and gives him a game this week, but I ain't holding my breath on it at all.
Speaker 4:That's what it is. Do you have any positives about the?
Speaker 5:Bengals, when you score 10 points at home, like come on man.
Speaker 4:I get it, I definitely get it.
Speaker 5:There was zero positives. Another thing is like you can tell that guys aren't playing preseason. Our starting defense played three plays. We got a three and out and I think, the second game of the preseason. That's all. Our number ones played, that's it. And our offense played one possession. One possession. They did get a touchdown and this was game to a preseason, that's it you know, and then you come out and clearly guys aren't ready.
Speaker 5:Like the plays are stupid. Uh, it's just crazy. Like I'm reading all these stats and facts about the game. It's crazy. Burrow was like only pressured, I think six times. You know the entire game. It's just like how can you not get the ball? What is happening? Is it your ability? Is it your confidence? Is it the plays? Are the receivers not getting? You know the entire game. It's just like how can you not get the ball? What is happening? Is it your ability? Is it your confidence? Is it the plays? Are the receivers not getting open? How can you not push the ball down the field and you're not even getting sacked?
Speaker 3:You. Just I don't know.
Speaker 5:There was zero positives, like zero positives. We fumbled on. We fumbled a punt, so special teams suck. We fumbled on, we fumbled a punt, so special teams suck. The defense can't tackle, they just can't tackle. I don't know how many times I countered us in the backfield, or actually where the tackle is supposed to be made, you know. And then we let them go.
Speaker 5:So negative two plays that should have been, you know, negative, two-yard losses were, you know positive. One or two yards when it should have been no gain, they were three to five yards. When it should have been a three yard gain, it turned into an eight yard gain, so forth and so on. You can't win like that. You can't win like that. And it's like, even when it comes to a position where a team is, you know that they're going to run the ball, they're trying to run out the clock, we're trying to tackle the Daxton Hill just hanging off the ball and Ramon J Stevenson still just toting it down the field, it's like, bro, this is for the game. Like, tackle the guy. Yeah, that's Bengals, that's Bengals Weekly.
Speaker 4:City of Cincinnati. This poor man is pouring his heart out. Y'all need to get it together.
Speaker 3:Get it together, Figure it out. All right, man, let's move on to a little more positive note. Ravens man, how y'all looking? Justin man, what do you think? Tough challenge in week one it is the Chiefs, but I mean Not really by all means digress. Here we go, here we go. I'm letting everybody get theirs out. I got mine too.
Speaker 6:No, I mean, I ain't got nothing to say I mean I'm not surprised, I picked Kansas City to beat them. I mean y'all know that, like I didn't expect Baltimore to win I hate to say it, but it was the same thing I already knew was going to happen you sign Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry gets 13 carries Blows my mind 13 carries. But, Lamar drives back 41 times.
Speaker 5:And he runs the ball. Didn't he run the ball a couple of times?
Speaker 6:Yeah. Mm-hmm so yeah, I think it was something like that, so it's like I don't know.
Speaker 5:He ran his ass off. I'll give him that.
Speaker 6:He did. But see, part of the problem was he had to. They had a couple of design runs but, like you guys want to drop back but you don't have elite receivers to drop back, for him to drop back 41 times and throw the ball. I mean, isaiah Likely was your best pass catcher. I ain't saying Isaiah Likely ain't good, but you don't have you know that guy. You don't have a Justin Jefferson or a Tyree Kill out there to be like yeah, I'm going to drop back and throw this. No, zay Flowers, he's cool.
Speaker 3:He ain't that yeah, 41 times. He was 26 for 41. 41. 273 in a touchdown. He was only back once.
Speaker 5:I like Zay Flowers, but he's one of those supplementary. He's good he's, but he need a one yeah you need a one, yeah, he had six catches for 37.
Speaker 3:His longest was 19, though.
Speaker 4:Oh Jesus he had 10 targets. I mean.
Speaker 6:I remember.
Speaker 3:I mean Rashad Bateman Aguilar had one catch he was only targeted once.
Speaker 4:I better say I remember Fox saying that he had 13 carries when we talked the other day, but I didn't know. It was only for 46 yards.
Speaker 6:Oh my God had 13 carries when we talked the other day, but I didn't know it was only for 46 yards.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, I'm like I'm like for what?
Speaker 6:like they scored on the first drive, I was like, all right, maybe monken's gonna be smart this game and learn from his terrible play calling in the playoffs psych. I'm gonna do exactly what I'm gonna do, which is I'm gonna drop lamar back and I'm not gonna run derrick henry and again I'm not going to run Derrick Henry and again. I'm not even saying Derrick Henry needed 30 carries. But see to me smart coaches make smart decisions.
Speaker 4:He need more than 13.
Speaker 6:You know what I'm saying? Joe Mixon got 30 carries for a reason you know what I mean you know what I'm saying. The running backs get the carries when it makes sense. You know, what I'm saying, and not even trying to be funny, though. You know what I'm saying. But like, come on man, derrick Henry couldn't get 20 carries starting off the season. Yeah, like, come on man, like, let's make it make sense and don't say the round one work. I hate when people say that when you become one-dimensional, you become very easy to guard.
Speaker 3:So I still gotta run the ball, exactly, you still gotta keep. Yeah, I don't. I mean. And you look at patrick mahomes, he only, he only threw a 28 sign, but he was 20 for 28 for 291. Correct efficiency is efficient and I, as I said, pacheco only ran it 15 times for 45 yards, like they wasn't doing a bunch of running, but like it was efficient. You know what I mean. We were moving down the line and then look at him, look who? Look, you have rash Rice. Seven catches for 103. Xavier Worvey had two for 47. Noah Gray had three for 37. Travis Kelsey three for 34. Isaiah Pacheco had two. Like he was spread around, he threw it to a whole bunch of people. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Including himself, because he got two yards when you look at the Ravens, it's just likely Bateman, justice Hill. You know what I mean. And Justice Hill, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6:Correct me if I'm wrong on that. He had like 5 catches, didn't he? He had 6 for 52. Yeah, 6, okay, yeah. So if you take, if you take his 6 and likely had what 9?
Speaker 5:9 a lot of teams don't get no play in Baltimore. That's 15 out of 26.
Speaker 6:That's 15 out of your scammers. Don't get no play in Baltimore, man. That's 15 out of 26 completions. That's 15 out of your 26 completions, right there. Come on, man. They don't get open. That's the problem. Like, yeah, zay got 6 catches Because they throw screens to him. If it wasn't for those screens Very short crosses he wouldn't have 6, 7 catches. No, but what they do is His catches look great in terms of how many he's catching because they throw screens like crazy to him. Baltimore has got to figure out who they are and, I'll be honest, the offensive line wasn't great either, which I wasn't expecting and I don't know how y'all feel, but like this new formation rule or whatever, they make yeah for the kickoff.
Speaker 6:That was wild. Ronnie Stanley got rule. Or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for the kickoff ronnie stanley got called for, so many misaligned in the formation.
Speaker 6:At one point I was like maybe I need to re-explain the rules because, um, obviously teams ain't quite understanding where those guys need to be lined up for this whole formation thing, because I think they said it was like 30 or 30 something of those in week one you know, within all the games and I'm like, come on, man, that that's a lot.
Speaker 3:But you know what, like the NFL, every year they have a rule of focus that they want to focus on. And now this year, this is that rule. You know, last year was the pass interference and you know what I mean. Stuff like that. Like every year, they take a focus on a rule and say, okay, like this has been a problem.
Speaker 5:We need to focus on this, yeah.
Speaker 3:So and it's just that, and it's like I think that's dumb, I think it's crazy. I understand you don't want to give nobody an unfair advantage. You know what I mean. You don't want to put the D-ins at a disadvantage and you don't want to give the offensive tackles an advantage either. You got to line up.
Speaker 2:You got to you Like you can't be. From my understanding of the rule, you can't be your helmet has to yeah, your helmet has to be your waistline.
Speaker 3:Yeah, your waistline has to be. Come on man, come on With the guard, that's it.
Speaker 6:Like come on. And I don't know how y'all feel. But the other thing that kind of irked me, I can't remember which, the knees, but like I see guys jumping, you know trying to deflect the ball, and their hand comes down and it taps them on the back of the helmet. I'm like bro, come on. Man, like come on.
Speaker 4:Y'all got to chill with that. Well, that rule is bad all around football, not only there, but college too. So I think the targeting is a little crazy too.
Speaker 6:Oh the targeting is OC. It's bad. It's bad all the way around. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. But hey, Vernon, on the upside we played the Raiders this week, I think.
Speaker 3:So, let's get on track. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:We got Kansas City, so we ain't getting back on track, hey, but y'all have been probably one of the best teams against Kansas City.
Speaker 6:Y'all played been probably like one of the best teams against Kansas City. Y'all played them well. Y'all played them well.
Speaker 5:It's always later in the season when Burrow wakes up and he's not David Carr. That's true, yeah. That's what I'm saying because, like I, mean we ain't never lost to the Chiefs.
Speaker 3:We'll lose to everybody else.
Speaker 5:But if Burrow's not playing at the end of the season, he's cooking, but at the start.
Speaker 6:That's funny, but that's also, jer, why I think that it makes it hard for Cincinnati to win the division nowadays. Their starts are so slow and Baltimore typically starts so fast. You just can't make up all the. You know that difference.
Speaker 3:Towards the end of the season. It's tough to make up that ground in that division. You got.
Speaker 5:Pittsburgh that just some way finds Ws Yep. Six field goals, hey, six man. They're going to win. Though, regardless of who's playing quarterback, who's out, who's injured, whatever the situation is, yep, you're going to find a way to get wins. Yep, and when you've got one of them in your division already having a tough, you're right. We always put ourselves at a disadvantage. Like I said towards the end of the season, if everybody's healthy. I mean, it's a ball game with whoever I feel like.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying that they're going to win, but the Bengals no, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is true, we, you know we start so slow and it's like I blame that on coaching.
Speaker 5:Like how does your team start so slow every single year? I think Burroughs won five on opening day. That's crazy, yeah, it's crazy yeah.
Speaker 3:Hey, shoot the Colts. Ain't won one in 11 years, Dang. We ain't won a week one game in 11 years, since Andrew was.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 6:Man, yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know it had been that long.
Speaker 5:I had to rewind that when I heard that on the TV.
Speaker 3:This past week make year 11. We've lost our opening game.
Speaker 6:Jeez, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4:Yep, that's tough.
Speaker 3:I mean speaking of tough, we played them tough, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5:I mean speaking of tough, we played them tough, oh yeah for sure, we played them tough, but I mean Definitely hats off to that performance for sure.
Speaker 3:Joe Mixon 30 carries for 159.
Speaker 6:Joe looked good in that system. I ain't going to lie to you.
Speaker 3:He was moving, he was smooth in that system, you know, and all I could think about and all I could think about was Garrett yeah, and how he just he beat y'. All I could think about and all I could think about was Garrett yeah, he beat Dog and Mixon. I was like bro.
Speaker 5:He said I mean you got to be honest.
Speaker 3:I've never dog Mixon I was like all right man, I've never dog Mixon.
Speaker 5:Do I think that we could have if we were to get another.
Speaker 3:You say he wasn't worth paying and you can find somebody else to do what he does.
Speaker 5:Even then, saquon Barkley got three years $37 million. Why not bring in him? What I'm saying a lot of the times is we can do better.
Speaker 3:I mean Mixon got close.
Speaker 5:Losing him is not the say-all be-all.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I'm not saying that, but I'm just speaking about from like Improvements could be made.
Speaker 5:Am I saying that Mixon's the say-all? He's not. No, is he win. Get better, like, figure it out what it is that you want, what it is that you need, and try to improve. We should have been a team going after Saquon. We should have been a team going after even Derrick Henry, because if you know how to pick somebody, if you were to give give Chase an opportunity to see what he can do, there's your big guy and your fast.
Speaker 5:You know guy that can get out in flats and run your wheel routes and things like that. So that's all I'm saying. I don't have anything against Joe Mixon Would I rather have him over Zach Moss? Absolutely but I would also rather work in the guys that we draft and see what they can do, because the key to success is drafting. You've got to put guys around. The guys that are making money All right, burrow's got his contract. Now you have to draft. We're not going to have Chase and Higgins. You've got to draft guys and, like we had the conversation last episode, there are guys that are coming out of college ready to pull up Pro Bowl numbers, it's happening every year.
Speaker 5:It's happening every year, these guys. It's becoming more and more popular that wide receivers are coming right out of college and catching 1,400 yards and nine touchdowns, like it's happening. So you've got to draft well and you've got to put guys around your court like ie. What San Francisco has done it's not that complicated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because Zach Moss had nine carries from 44 yards in the touchdown.
Speaker 5:And that's another thing. That's not even a terrible average, no.
Speaker 6:You just didn't get enough touches, that's almost four yards.
Speaker 3:They're a little over four yards, average 4.7. Jamar Chase has six catches for 62. I mean he caught everybody.
Speaker 5:He looks so disinterested, though.
Speaker 4:Well, I was shocked, he even played. I was shocked, he even played.
Speaker 3:He was just out there, literally yeah, but the rest of these guys only I mean Mike Jacecki, had three touchdowns.
Speaker 5:And that's another thing. That's another thing. So, like last year in the first round, michael Mayer, the tight end out of Notre Dame was a good one. We passed on him and drafted Miles fucking Murphy a nobody that hasn't drafted him. We drafted him and then this year we signed Jasicki and then we re-signed Tanner Hudson. You could have just literally kept all that money drafted a tight end, and you would have been cool.
Speaker 3:But like, why pay two of those Between them two? They bought their five catches for 36 yards.
Speaker 5:Terrible, bro, and that's going to be probably their best outing of the season. Tanner literally dropped the. He fumbled the ball at the goal line. He was literally falling in the end zone and as he was just trying to reach what he didn't even need to do, somebody knocked the ball out. That was the next play after jacicke dropped the touchdown in the back of the end zone and then got up doing this stupid ass gritty knowing he didn't catch the ball. I'm just watching all this like bro. This can't be life. This can't be life like. I'm just like man. They just make it so complicated, man. It then it's like you watch other games. You watch even teams that lose. You're watching them and it's just like damn. They just make football look like football. We make football look like it's rocket science or something. I don't understand it. Yeah, that is what it is.
Speaker 3:I mean shoot Stevenson. He ran for 120, 25 carries. I wonder how much of that was yak though.
Speaker 6:Because we were there a lot of the times we just all run after the yeah yards. I mean after the first time, yeah yeah, yeah, I really wish I could.
Speaker 5:I knew how much of that it was, because we were, we were there a lot of the times, just yeah they didn't really throw it at all.
Speaker 3:I mean, the throwing game was Right.
Speaker 5:Another thing I'm going to say real quick and then we can move on. I don't want to turn this into a Bengals podcast. But another thing we were doing we was getting pressure from outside, but then when Brissette would step up, there was just nobody there. The defensive line couldn't get their arms extended so they can get off the blocks, they just were just getting blocked. And we draft defensive line every year. And still we need defensive line. We draft DBs every year. Within the last four years we've drafted, last three years we've drafted Cam Taylor, britt Daxon Hill, we've drafted DJ Turner I think it's one or two more guys Jordan Battle Jordan Battle doesn't even start. I think he was the second or third rounder out of Alabama. He doesn't even start. And then we're getting Geno Stone. I already knew I was like I bet he trash, bet he trash.
Speaker 2:Homeboy can't tackle a trash can.
Speaker 5:He couldn't tackle a trash can, so I'm just trash can, so I'm just like all right, man, I see what's going on here. We only pick up guys that other teams say you know, nah, I'm cool, you can go, you, you good. We're never in a competition to get a guy that a team actually wants. You know what I'm saying? It's never a situation where, yeah, it's reported that the bingles are trying to get so-and-so and so-and-so's not available, but they're still trying, or the top free agent that's available, or the Bengals are trying to get. There is never that. We're always going to sit back and wait and get the guys that nobody else want and then we sign them and then that's just our team and we lose. All right, I was waiting on this.
Speaker 4:John, all right, yeah, yeah, I was waiting on this, john. Who's your team man? I don't have a team I follow. I just follow players and, um, pretty much like that. I don't really have like an nfl team that I just follow. I mean, I like I like the bingos only because of burl, uh, I you know, but he hasn't really been doing his thing here as late, uh. But I do like Burroughs. I do like Burroughs. I've always liked Burroughs. I like Justin Fields, so I watch the Steelers. I was actually happy to see them actually let him play, because I thought they was giving that job to Russ, but I think he did well with the Steelers.
Speaker 3:Russ has been kind of banged up too, so they've been kind of like not in a rush to bring him back.
Speaker 4:I'm good with him not even running offense. Obviously I think Fields is in a good situation. I think he should go ahead and that's been proven. He did well this past Sunday. So I really hope that they really give him a chance to, kind of because so many people talk so bad about Justin Fields and I'm just like y'all just don't. I've seen the man, I've seen what the man can do. Obviously he came from Ohio State and the dude was a he's a baller.
Speaker 4:Like a ball-time baller, inaccurate, off the run. But when you're in a bad situation like Chicago, I mean, what do you expect, you know, so I'll tell you what he did a lot better than Caleb Williams did 100% With those receivers Without half the talent. The only reason why they even won that game was because of the defense. It wasn't because of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3:Caleb didn't even throw for 100 yards, did he no?
Speaker 6:No, he had like 95. I mean, it was his first game, man, I don't think too much about it. I mean, even with that, he still played better than Will Levis.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't even sold on him in college, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6:So I mean I get it. I get it Like. I don't know, like I said, any of them rookies, I'm not one of them. Throw them away quick, kind of guys when it comes to them.
Speaker 5:Me neither. I don't like to see this. I don't like to see this. He's throwing Bryce Young away.
Speaker 6:Now I will say Bryce, but that could be, situation Bryce.
Speaker 4:Is it a?
Speaker 5:bad situation too, Like the situation.
Speaker 6:I mean you got to think he ain't got nothing to throw to bro no he ain't got nothing to throw to.
Speaker 3:He don't even got nobody to. You're talking about the Bengals, not? It could be worse.
Speaker 6:It could be worse.
Speaker 5:You need to watch Carolina games and be like it could certainly be worse, but I still even tell you this With them losing 37-10 and us losing 16-10, pound for pound, I want to say we had the worst performance. I think that was expected. That's all expectations. I believe, yeah, that was expected. You know, nobody expects much out of the Panthers. I mean, we were expecting the goddamn Patriots at home. Yeah, that was so Pound for pound. I still think our situation's worse. But no, I mean we have a better roster than them.
Speaker 4:But I'm sorry I'm going back to Caleb Williams. So you sold on Caleb Fox. You like him? No, I'm just saying I ain't throwing him away.
Speaker 6:Like I like, I like, I like his, I like his potential. But again, I think we can't overlook he's a rookie. You know what I mean. As good or as talented as the kid is the part of your problem, I think, now is the kid is the part of your problem. I think now is the preseason. You don't go against those one defenses. You don't see all the different schemes and things they're going to throw at you. So he's getting his first taste of that. That's all that is. I mean, I think if he's looking like this six weeks, seven weeks, eight weeks in, then I think you start getting some concern. But I mean his first outing. And if we're going to be honest, tennessee defense ain't bad, yeah, ain't bad at all.
Speaker 6:The secondary is decent and they got a good, they got a good defensive line. So you know he it wasn't, it wasn't an easy outing for them either way.
Speaker 3:So but also too like if we get halfway through the season and they still have any struggles, are we gonna look at justin fields differently and be like hum, was, it, wasn't him or I never blamed justin field.
Speaker 6:I never said is it the bears? Yep, no, no facts. What you're saying is it is facts, because now you got that quote-unquote quarterback y'all was talking about y'all still sucking. So yeah, yeah, yeah, and you got the talent.
Speaker 3:Now you can't blame this on players. You can't blame them. Nothing else y'all have literally everything. Y'all need to be successful. No, that's facts. At least it's successful enough in the nfc north. Yeah, to be competing. I ain't saying you gotta win the north, but you should be competing against green bay and detroit, like minnesota. But you should be y'all should. You should be competing for number two in the north between whoever the lions and, uh, green bay. You know whoever takes a seat back like you should be competing for number two in the north between whoever the Lions and Green Bay. You know whoever takes a seat back Like you should be competing. I ain't saying you should be better than either one of those teams, but with that talent you have the potential to be better. With decent to good quarterback play you should be able to compete.
Speaker 6:Yeah, and their offensive line couldn't open up the hole. So like Chicago was never able to get the run game going either. That was part of their problem. Like they couldn't get the run game going. Caleb looked nervous. He could say what he want, but he looked nervous Like. He looked like he was a little lost and confused.
Speaker 4:And that's my problem with Caleb Williams Like, just be genuine and honest Like you got, and honest you got to do all this extra stuff like you did.
Speaker 6:I ain't going to ask him to be something he ain't because I know what he's being it is what it is.
Speaker 4:He's always been like that, though he was even like that in college.
Speaker 3:They said it definitely was a diva at USC.
Speaker 4:That's my issue. That's literally my issue.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, I'm going to attempt to talk about this Coast Texan game. I'm going to attempt to talk about this Coast Texan game Now. I'm going to speak on the Coast. The Texans are the Texans. I didn't expect us to dominate. I think we played better against a very, very overpowered Texas team, but for some reason, we cannot stop Nico Collins. Like if there was one player that I could just delete out the league right now, it would be Nico Collins, because we cannot stop this dude. He broke the record for the most receiving yards in Houston's history.
Speaker 4:CJ was dotting him, though I'm going to give him that. How you give up like?
Speaker 3:234 last year against this dude and then turn around and let him go for 117 again.
Speaker 4:That's an accurate, light-skinned brother boy, I tell you.
Speaker 3:Like it's crazy, bro. And then I mean stopping the run. This is reminding me back in Peyton years. You can't stop the run. You got Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner Like you can't stop the run.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I wish I could name drop off our defense.
Speaker 3:DeForest Buckner, raekwon, you can't stop the run. Yeah, that was surprising.
Speaker 5:I wish I could name drop off our defense.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying, like these are.
Speaker 6:That was surprising, Byron. I'll be honest, Like you said with that front, I was not expecting them to get ran on.
Speaker 5:These are run stoppers, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like, come on, yeah, Like to me that was crazy. And then I didn't even hear them mention Franklin's name at all. How you done their lead to league in tackles the past two years.
Speaker 5:I didn't hear you call it at all. It was either him or 44, but they was smacking mixing up bro 44 is Franklin.
Speaker 3:I did not hear, I saw a couple hits where he was smacking.
Speaker 2:Buddy up.
Speaker 5:I'm like God damn.
Speaker 3:They saying he had four solo tackles. Maybe it was when your strong safety is leading your team in tackles, that's a problem. That means that people are getting to the third level.
Speaker 6:Yeah, like no, hey, and I ain't gonna even lie. Julian Plankton was number two with 13.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, like no, there's some place in the box, hey.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 3:I ain't going to even lie.
Speaker 5:Julian Parker was number two with 13. Dang yeah, come on yeah.
Speaker 3:Like three out of your four top tacklers or DBs. Jalen Jones was second with nine, I mean third with, I mean fourth with nine. Ej Speed had 10. Damn, come on like no bro.
Speaker 4:No, that's definitely a problem.
Speaker 3:That's a problem Come on, bro, like they shouldn't even be between Buckner, grover Stewart and Zaire Franklin. Bro, they should not be. Db should not be making tackles on running back unless they support him. Like no, bro, that's crazy. And then we got this.
Speaker 4:we got the straddle that just didn't faze him like this man throwing off, this man throwing off his knees.
Speaker 3:I told you that that dude, that dude is accurate it just seemed like everything that could go wrong went wrong. Yeah for us, and it was just like like again mixing 30 for 159 and a tut, and then you get Stephon Diggs on the last play of the game. You get this lineup. Why are we playing Bro? Why are you, on the like, within the five-yard line? Why are you playing five yards into the end zone on?
Speaker 5:Stephon Diggs Sounds like us in the Super Bowl against Cup with Eli Apple man bro.
Speaker 4:Nah, for real, I love you, bro.
Speaker 3:I love you For real. It did have six catches, but it was only for 33 yards. But the problem is it was two touchdowns.
Speaker 5:Oh, bro, for the Super Bowl, cooper Cup, man to man Eli.
Speaker 4:Apple Get on with Eli Apple.
Speaker 5:Nigga, I'm screaming at the TV like.
Speaker 6:Here's your problem, verne. I think with that, though, where I think houston poses that problem for everybody, you got to pick and choose your poison because of tank dale and nico.
Speaker 6:So I like it's hard to and you can't zone them, I'll be honest, I I think she's gonna tear your zone apart. So like it's hard sometimes throw them zones at him because he's so daggone accurate, I just think. I think the Colts are trying to play that poison because, you know, all the offseason stuff was all Steph, you know, stephon Diggs lost a step. Da-da-da-da-da, it ain't that he lost a step. I'll be honest, I think he just lost his motivation in Buffalo.
Speaker 3:That's what that was Like when he first showed up in Buffalo. He was the shit, yep. And then now it's the same thing again. He's showing up in Texas. Now, oh man, I'm happy, look at me. Whatever Cool.
Speaker 3:But my thing is this First off, you don't put a first-year starter in Nick Cross on Diggs for the last play of the game and then you don't have him playing zone. Playing zone unless you're running cover two in the end zone, like you don't need to be running zone down there. You're not running a cover three, a cover four, like you're not running that. There's not enough room. You need to be running man or cover two where you're dropping down and competing for that hard flat.
Speaker 3:Like, if you're not doing that, bro, what are we doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, especially on somebody, a route runner like Stefan Diggs, like that was easy money, it was basically a screen, yeah. And for somebody, like I said, nick Cross. Like bro, this is first year starting. Like no, bro, I can see if it was a veteran out there, I can see if it's Kenny Moore or somebody over there. Like bro, no, not Nick Cross. Like no, he's just getting his feet wet. I'm not saying he bad, but he's just getting his feet wet. You don't do that, not for the game. Not for the game.
Speaker 4:Well, in positive news, ar, I think, played really good.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes. I wouldn't say that 9-19 for 2-12, two touchdowns.
Speaker 4:For a person that's coming back from injury.
Speaker 6:Right For a person that's coming back from injury Right For a person that's coming back from injury. I'm going to take that he under 50%. 120 of those yards came off of two plays.
Speaker 4:He's one pass under 50.
Speaker 3:I mean okay, and he ran six runs for 56 yards on touchdown. So he accounted for three touchdowns out of four. That's what I'm saying. He played solid.
Speaker 6:The running was fine because he was pretty smart with his running. That's what I would say. I wouldn't say he played great. Why didn't?
Speaker 4:you say great, I just said, he was solid.
Speaker 3:And he won me my fantasy game too.
Speaker 6:That's fair. That's fair. I just said he was solid.
Speaker 4:I thought he was solid. I thought he was solid.
Speaker 6:He was okay. Your problem is if you take those two big plays out, which thankfully Vern, I know you're happy to see Alec Pierce learn how to catch again.
Speaker 3:That's what I was saying. That's the positive. He was supposed to be that deep threat, yeah he was been supposed to be that who's fast Like you can't I mean you can't teach height and speed.
Speaker 6:Like that's just but the problem was, I'll be honest, I think AR, he's going to just have to make sure he hones in and becomes more consistent, because he missed quite a few throws that he should not miss at this stage. But granted, this is only his fifth game too. You know what I'm saying so it's hard. Like I said, I'm not going crazy overboard about him missing a couple throws, because I expect him to get there because the dude is crazy talented.
Speaker 6:Extremely athletic too I'll say this If he hit a couple of those, honestly that game is different. That game is different because he missed. I think two of them should have been touchdowns because I know he overthrew Adonai Mitchell on one where he was wide open. They overthrew him by like five yards. So yeah, he's just got to get a little bit more consistent with some of those and he'll be fine.
Speaker 3:And that's why I really wasn't talking about the Colts offense. I feel like the offense will be okay with time.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they'll be fine. I mean most offenses, they just take time. You got to take that 27 points.
Speaker 3:And that's what I'm saying, and to be, and, like I said, with the Texans as stacked as they are offensively and defensively, to still be in the game, only to lose by two points and, like you said, one or two plays defensively or offensively, we could have won that game. So I'm not like I said, I'm not the offense, I know they'll get it together, but one thing we can't do is be paying Grover Stewart a ton of money, paying Buckner a ton of money and just paid Franklin some money and we can't stop the run.
Speaker 6:Yeah, because I was going to say especially in that division, because your problem in that division. Tennessee they got guys like Tony Pollard, Pollard and Steve they both ran the ball very well.
Speaker 3:And then when you get ETN, who tends to just dominate us like no, other.
Speaker 6:He loves playing. The Colts boy Love it.
Speaker 3:All of Jacksonville loves playing the Colts man I bet you.
Speaker 5:He watched that game.
Speaker 3:He's like ooh I can't wait to get there.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:If Mixon going to get 160, shit, I could probably get two yeah.
Speaker 2:For real, though you know what I mean For real.
Speaker 3:We're 4'5 catches for probably 50 yards, Like I mean we're 4'5 catches for probably 50 yards. Like man, he goes crazy on us. So we got to shore that up, yeah, but I'm not, like I said, I'm not messed up about it, you know, I think that was a good test, especially, you know, against a team who you're going to be competing against for the division.
Speaker 3:I think that's a great test to be like okay, cool, we can beat them, we can compete with them, because I think folks are the coach. You got to focus on your division, fuck everything else, fuck playoffs, fuck championships. Forget all that, let's focus on our division. Let's focus on these three other teams in our division. Let's try to make sure that we got what we need to compete against them and beat them on a consistent basis, and then and we can start focusing on the rest of the AFC.
Speaker 4:So that's just how I look at it anyway but yeah, man, hey, that's all I got man.
Speaker 3:Oh no, no, that is not all I got. Tyreek Hill situation. I want to talk about that real quick. Did y'all see the body cam footage? Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they had him hemmed up on the ground, boy. I still think like, just uh, I don't want to sound like a, like a coon or anything but like the energy, although he wasn't hitting the cops, was he like spitting on the cops or anything? No, but the energy that you give off situations I agree with you a hundred percent.
Speaker 5:You just put the window down. They would have never. And I'm not saying what they did is right, I'm not even trying to justify it, but do I think that some of his actions could have been different in that situation? Would have been nothing? Yes, these guys, they did not come to work today. I was like I'm about to get me NFL player and pull him out of his car and pin him on the ground, no, but I think.
Speaker 3:with that, though too, I think first off you ran his plates.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but you ran his plates.
Speaker 3:You knew who it was.
Speaker 5:I get that. It is my job at this point. It is my job to enforce the rules. Put your window down, like everybody else would, and let's have a conversation. I give you a ticket. You get on your way. Not everybody is getting yanked out of a car for speeding or whatever it is. That's just not something that's happening.
Speaker 4:It just dilutes. For me, because I agree with Jared, I don't condone the actions. I mean because I agree with Jared, like I don't condone the actions of the cops, but I will say that what Tyreek did, it dilutes the situation, the full situation. So like if he would have complied and was calm and he was doing what he needed to do and the cops still act like that, then you have more of a compelling case of this is misconduct. But if you're acting up as well as they're trying to get you to comply, yeah, what they did may have been wrong, but you're looking at your situation different now. They're saying, well, he did get a little loud, he did get a little a little. That's how they do us of color, they don't care about the other stuff. They're only going to look at what Tyreek did. They're going to just look at it and say, well, he got loud, regardless of whatever else happened outside of that. They're just going to be looking at he got loud.
Speaker 5:And I don't even think it's the loud even by itself. It's the loud factoring in with Well the other stuff too.
Speaker 4:But I'm saying and then now, putting the window down like when I get pulled over.
Speaker 5:Am I nice with cops? No, but do I show that same level of respect that I expect them to show me? Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. Yes, Yep, they might get one, one word answers, but I've never had a problem because whatever that they've asked within reason.
Speaker 4:I'm going.
Speaker 6:So I just watched it. That's what I did real quick because I didn't see it, the little 90 second clip they released.
Speaker 6:He better count his blessings, because most of us if we rolled our window back up, it's over with. That might have been the last time that we did something like that, so he might want to. Yeah, lessons on that. Now, I ain't saying he was wrong, I get what he was saying. Um, and I'll say this could he have handled it differently? Yeah, just like, like you said, just kind of with his, his whole demeanor energy he was giving but at the same time, I will say this that's.
Speaker 6:That's the issue a lot of times with cops. Is that authority. You didn't have to snatch him out of the car like that Y'all didn't have to do some of what y'all were doing. Y'all were doing a little extra with that Especially over at Seatbelt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like None of that's necessary for Even if I don't roll my window down. First off, I don't have to roll my window down.
Speaker 6:That's also the thing too.
Speaker 3:Technically speaking, I mean technically I can crack my window and as long as we can hear, each other. That's really it. I don't have to let down my window. Let you see what's in my car.
Speaker 5:I don't have to do any of that. I don't know the rules and the laws, but I mean, if there's nothing to hide, just put the window down, like yeah, but also too like making situations worse when because I think, I think in a like.
Speaker 5:That's like if our kids are at school and they're just like you know, the teacher's like well, sit down. Well, I don't have to sit down. I mean, there's no law that says you have to sit down, but in order for shit to just move slowly, I need you to take a seat and be quiet you're, you're.
Speaker 4:Do you have to be quiet?
Speaker 5:no, technically speaking, it's a free world. You can say whatever you want. When, in order to conduct my business and for you to reap the benefits of the business that I'm conducting, I'm asking you to do this if there's no issue with it.
Speaker 4:You're not hiding anything, just put the window down and you the window down and you're just escalating the situation when it doesn't have to be escalated. Now, if they take it there, that's on them. At that point you know what I'm saying, but you're giving the cops a reason to act a fool.
Speaker 5:I think people lose track of cops being people too. That's just like the same thing in your kids Not saying that we're the kids of police officers, but they're. They're in authority.
Speaker 5:They've taken an oath to protect and serve, so like they're in authority if they're asking you to do something within reason to help them do their business, which in that case just put the window down. You don't know what, and then a tent is illegal anyway. You're not supposed to even have that kind of dark tent. And I'm guilty of it too. I have dark tent on my car. So I'm not even saying what Tyreek Hill is doing is wrong. What I'm saying is he's trying to protect himself. He don't know what you got in that car.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 5:Put the window down, so put him at ease.
Speaker 6:That's what my step always taught me put the cop at ease to let him do his business. You're gonna get your ticket and you're gonna go. Yeah, now I will. I will say this, though, real quick no, I now I ain't saying it's everybody, but I know a lot of us have been affected over the years. I just think we carry a certain kind of energy towards cops too now that's true.
Speaker 6:You know what I'm saying, because with the media and news outlets, all the stuff they push in front of us. You kind of feel a certain kind of way, regardless when it comes to cop. Honestly, that don't even matter the color of the cop.
Speaker 4:There's a cop as a whole.
Speaker 5:I one-up that I feel more resentment when it is a black cop that pulls me over as opposed to a white cop. I expect that out of you. You know what I'm saying, but I'm like, then you come on, bro Dang, Like what's up, Like you know I get that?
Speaker 6:Yeah, true, I think that could be some of it too, but I mean, yeah, that's one of them. Whatever they said, it was to kind of really get a gist of where it ended up going. But I mean, he probably could have handled that differently and went on about his way. But now I'll say this though Anybody that got pulled over, I will say this it is very annoying waiting on cops to come back.
Speaker 1:You give me an idea. You got to wait a half an hour.
Speaker 6:Bro, give me this little funky ticket for this seatbelt so I can go about my business.
Speaker 4:We all want to know what you're doing. You're talking about a seatbelt First off.
Speaker 3:There's no way you could have seen a seatbelt with my 10 car. Let's start there, you're already coming at me on some BS. You say I was speeding, but you don't have a radar gun. This is just to your naked eye. You didn't come to me and say I clocked you back there doing 15 above the speed limit, so everything.
Speaker 1:so when you pull me over in my head.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking the stuff that you come. I'm already like bro. There's no reason why you're pulling me over right now. I think that was he was already in that demeanor like all right, I got a game to get to. You already know who I am because before you got your car you were on my plates.
Speaker 6:Facts facts yeah, you know who I am.
Speaker 3:What are you pulling me over for? Now, if you come to me and say I pulled you over for speeding, you're thinking like in your head. You're thinking, man, I wasn't even speeding. And then you got two of your teammates who also witnessed this. Who ends up one's getting a citation. The other one, campbell, got detained too.
Speaker 6:Yep, he got put in handcuffs. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:They put.
Speaker 6:Campbell in handcuffs too Sure did. He talked about that.
Speaker 3:So it's like, bro, I kind of feel the situation like maybe these police officers didn't come, didn't approach Tyreek Hill in the manner you can say it's energy, but we don't know the energy before that, because we just see yeah that's a period of the body cam we don't see. Maybe he came to the window and tapped on his glass super hard, or you know what I mean. Like who knows that you know?
Speaker 5:what sparked it to that?
Speaker 5:goes back to my point of of of of cops being human too. How many times have we been in traffic and we see somebody come up on our bumper real fast and then whipping all around and like that does aggravate a person. And if it's my job to enforce people driving like they got some sense on the road. If you're wiling, yeah, I'm going to be a little bit annoyed, yeah, I'm probably going to knock on your window a little bit harder, because at this point your driving is affecting people's safety. So I'm pissed off Like that's a normal. That's a normal like function. Now do you got to control that? Absolutely. But a normal person is going to be slightly agitated with this recklessness happening on the road. There's a lot of people out there. Not only was he trying to get to the game, other people were trying to get to the game. There's cars with kids and I'm sure he was probably speeding. I mean, he was in what a Ferrari or something.
Speaker 4:He definitely was rolling, I think a.
Speaker 5:McLaren or something. The road definitely wasn't following the rules of the road, just like none of us do on a regular basis.
Speaker 3:But could that also went? Like you come up to the window like hey, hey, tyreek man, you know, hey, I just seen you driving a little erratic. Like hey, man, can we I know you're trying to get to the game like, can you just woo, woo and left it alone.
Speaker 5:If you got, if you got limousine tint and you crack your window.
Speaker 3:When I'm trying to talk to you like that, I'm just saying, but I'm just, I'm talking, but I'm talking about your energy, because Tyreek Hill didn't approach the cop, so there's no way the cop could have got any energy from Tyreek Hill. First the cop had to initiate the energy.
Speaker 5:If you don't put your window down so I can at least see your whole face when I'm trying to talk to you, that's already energy in itself, without saying anything. If I see you out and I walk up to your car and you got limo tint, can't see through it and you just crack your shit like an inch, I'm going to look at you like nigga, you cool, like what's up, yeah, but we're not cool, we're not friends.
Speaker 3:There's nothing that I'm not obligated to let my window down to you. So if you do walk up to my car and I crack my window, like that's safety also, because I don't know what you're walking up to my window for.
Speaker 5:And Ayana is not obligated to to like to to, uh, to be quiet during class. Like she can talk, but there's rules. Like there's conduct that she must follow. The same thing there. Like there's conduct when you, when you're behind the wheel of a motor vehicle, there's certain conduct that you have to adhere to. Just like, bro, if a cop stops you and you stop for the cop, all right, cool, just put the window down, bro, 10 minutes, you're gone, he's probably. Yeah, if you just comply, he's probably actually gonna be like bro, get to the game.
Speaker 4:Like I think I see it. I see it as like somebody that just randomly wants to come up and talk. Are we having a serious conversation, like I'm talking to y'all, for example, and I'm having a serious conversation If Jared is like twiddling on his phone, like on a serious conversation, like a serious tip? We having a serious, like heart-to-heart together? If Jared is like on his phone, twiddling his thumbs, looking around like this uninterested, I'm to feel a certain way I'm going to be like man bro, I'm really trying to be on some real tip and you're not even paying me no attention. I think for me it's common courtesy. It's just being saying hey, I understand, there's a police right here. I was speeding. I mean, come on now, he was speeding.
Speaker 3:Chances are.
Speaker 4:He was speeding Ainances are he was speeding? Ain't no way you going.
Speaker 6:He was speeding. But the problem is don't nobody know, because they didn't, but the thing is, when you ain't got that radar, gun you can think I'm going fast, but you ain't got nothing to prove I was going as fast as you talking, and there's no way, like Vernon said, you couldn't tell.
Speaker 4:I can barely see him in the video. I can't see him. I can't see him. I can't see him. I can't see him, I can't see him. No, I get, I get with the seatbelt for sure, I definitely get what somebody zooms up on you in traffic. But I'm sorry, I, I can't, I can't get with him, I'm sorry but do you like when people are speeding Right?
Speaker 6:No, I'm not saying that you can't, but I'm saying the way that you approach when you try to say how did he approach him with the speeding? And then don't bring up the seatbelt.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's crazy. I totally agree with that.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to hear that. Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 4:I'm not talking about no seatbelt.
Speaker 6:Yeah, but like I'll say this, call it what it is. If Tyreek really wanted to get to that game, though, regardless of how he's feeling when that cop came up, he should have just had his ID out and window down here. Man, I don't even know what this is for. Here's this. I got a game to get to, though, so can we, you know?
Speaker 3:here you go, run what you need to. This is what I do to keep myself safe Anytime I get pulled over, turn the car off, take my keys, my registration, my ID, and I put it all on the top of the car and I put my hands out the window and I my hands there and I say everything you need, sir, is on top of the roof.
Speaker 5:See that you got to watch that too, cause getting the dig in that that'll that'll usually do is I don't care. Hey, there's no. There's no reason for us to talk Now.
Speaker 3:you got everything you need. We ain't got to ask no questions. Do you know why I pulled you over, sir? No-transcript car either, even with that, huh.
Speaker 5:What I do is I put all my windows down so you can see in the car. Bro, I know my tense is legal. I've never had it.
Speaker 5:I think somebody said something to me one time like years and years ago yep, and I tell them this is how I bought the car so you can see, see in the car, and you know, I have, you know, I, you know, just have my hands on the steering wheel. You know I'm saying like, and that's just it. This is registration. I'm about to get that for you. Nope, I don't even want to have to make a movement.
Speaker 3:By the time they get to my car.
Speaker 6:I don't want to make a movement. I already got everything out for you. Yep, I don't want to have to make a movement. I don't want to race for nothing.
Speaker 5:With the windows down. They're already like all right, you know what I'm saying. Their radar is already down. I mean it's. I see it both sides.
Speaker 3:It's hard on both sides. That's for us, but you gotta think for a celebrity, somebody like Tyreek Hill, which is probably one of the biggest faces in Miami right now. Like bro, like you looking at it like this is bullshit, like y'all shouldn't even be pulling me out Once you realize who I am.
Speaker 6:this, as most celebrities I'm sure, do they just let them go, but that's part of the problem, though, I think, with the cop you ain't above the law either like for real, for real, like you ain't above the law.
Speaker 3:So I think that's part of it yeah no, and then that's what I'm saying, like when you're used to getting that treatment and say he probably got that treatment before oh you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah so in essence, he's like alright cool, he gonna run my place. You know what I mean. He gonna come up, you know, and talk to me or whatever, and we be done. And I think, when the situation didn't unfold the way he thought it should or was, I think that's when it was like alright, well, shoot, I ain't gotta let my window down, I'm not complying like bro, just let me. I think it was kind of like over, like let, let's, let me go. You know what I mean. Like you're not going to, let me go, then whatever.
Speaker 6:That's why they fired that cop.
Speaker 4:That's what I was just going to say. I was like that's the only bright side of the whole situation for me.
Speaker 2:They caught the fart.
Speaker 6:No, they like, they got immediately suspended him and then I think I saw something earlier today he said they planned to fire him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they took action right away he was on the force for 27 years he's a vet.
Speaker 6:That's the thing, though To fire somebody who's been in law enforcement for that long, lets me know. There had to be more to it, or maybe he has a history of doing something like that. That's such a quick turnaround, bro.
Speaker 4:It's the fastest.
Speaker 3:I've ever seen in a situation like that, and that's why I think that cop had to initiate some type of aggression to make Tyreek Hill not want to cooperate. You know what I mean. Like it had to, because like to, just out of no reason, just a regular traffic stop with nothing, with no provulsion. You just think this dude just like, all right, I'm just going to sit here in my car and I'm not going to comply at all, knowing that this cop isn't going to let me. There's no way I can get out of this situation without at least engaging with this cop. He just sat here with his arm crossed with his window up, like nope, I ain't listening. You know what I mean. It's hard for me to believe that situation.
Speaker 5:It's hard for me to believe that dude wanted to have somebody on the ground and that hot-ass son.
Speaker 3:Obviously so, because you did it and you handcuffed two other players, so like either you mad at the Dolphins, they all lost you some money in a bet or something. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 5:Somebody showed his Facebook page and he had a Bills Mafia-like banner on his Facebook page. I thought that was crazy.
Speaker 4:I was laughing at that, that's funny. That is funny Makes sense.
Speaker 5:So yeah, allegedly he's a Bills fan.
Speaker 3:I thought that was crazy. There it is. Now we okay, we got to the mean potatoes of it. He's a Bills fan, I thought that was nuts. I haven't confirmed anything. You want to lock Tyreek up? Get a Dolphins to help the Bills stay on top of the division. I get it.
Speaker 4:That's funny.
Speaker 3:Because if Miami wouldn't have won, the Bills would have been the only team in that division who won. I get it.
Speaker 4:That's funny.
Speaker 3:That's the play, got it.
Speaker 4:That's the story you're sticking with, hey.
Speaker 3:Who am I to argue the facts? You got to leave with that, jerry. Forget all that legal stuff. Leave with that man. He's a Bills fan.
Speaker 4:It probably wasn't even a Bills thing, it was probably an American flag.
Speaker 3:Right, because, trust me, if I was a cop and I'd call Nico Collins going to the game.
Speaker 6:Oh my goodness, you and Nico. Leave Nico alone, bro, he'd have been in a sale.
Speaker 3:Hey, bro, you're going to miss this one. We need to do an investigation.
Speaker 4:We need to take your car.
Speaker 3:There's something going on, something about you illegal.
Speaker 4:You've been fired. You've been fired in an hour.
Speaker 2:We're going to get this done. We're going to get this done.
Speaker 4:You've been been fired in an hour, boy.
Speaker 3:Man, I know right, or maybe I should have let him go, Maybe he should have showed some mercy.
Speaker 4:Nah, not at all, Not at all.
Speaker 3:I think we talked about the Steelers and Wilson. Oh, what about Watson?
Speaker 2:man.
Speaker 3:Another charge, a 2020 charge.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I seen it.
Speaker 6:When I put that, I said dude, I'm so sick of hearing that line.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right then what about what's going on with Adrian Peterson, why he spend all his money?
Speaker 2:You know they talking about taking all his assets right now.
Speaker 4:That's Fox's guy. That's Fox's guy.
Speaker 6:AP. That's your guy, that's your people. No, I liked him when he was at Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's crazy man.
Speaker 3:Former MVP bro, you ain't got nothing.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I actually said it was sad, though, because a couple years ago, vern, I think it was something that came out and it was, like you know, when he was still trying to play I think he was at Detroit and all that there was rumors coming out like he kept trying to get jobs, and that's why I don't think, even still now, he hadn't officially retired. They're like he's broke. He's broke and he's trying to get a paycheck because he broke.
Speaker 6:That's tough that sucks, man, because I mean you, may you, I don't care who you are as a professional athlete and again I'm not judging, but y'all made good enough money that y'all made more than you know 90% of the people in this world, even if you, you can be a bum and make you know 20 million dollars throughout your your time that's.
Speaker 4:That's more than you know majority.
Speaker 6:You can live a decent life and and and not go broke, but your problem is you can't. You can't live like patrick mahomes or somebody like that, who? Can't like that, so you know, what I mean, so so, but bad, but bad financial habits.
Speaker 3:That doesn't change with more money oh man, if I just had more money, like my financial situation. I'll be, I'll be great, no, nope that's true because your mentality is to spend the same way.
Speaker 6:You just have more of it to spend yep, so yep I mean I go back and I say yeah, it will, and because one thing I say is I say if I give you a dollar and you don't do right with it, how can I trust to give you $10?
Speaker 4:That's true, that's true.
Speaker 6:You show me what you're going to do with that dollar. So you know, like you said, that's just bad habits, man. But unfortunately, especially in our community I hate to bring it up in that manner financial literacy and education, man, is it misses and lacks so badly throughout our communities? You know, because you really should be getting that at a young age, you know, versus teaching kids latin or something stupid like that. Where it don't it ain't you know, it ain't gonna serve them no purpose in this world, man okay, yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3:so one more question before we get out of here the Ricky Pearson shoot.
Speaker 6:Pearson yeah.
Speaker 3:They're talking. They was talking about charging the kid with attempted murder but now, after the video evidence, they saying he should be just it was just a attempted robbery, because I guess they was a fight, it was a struggle and Ricky got the L-sign. Yeah, yeah. So it was a fight between them and I guess Ricky got the ups on him and then the kid just decided to shoot him.
Speaker 6:How was the kid, did he say 17.?
Speaker 4:I'm about to see it. I'm looking at it right now. You're an idiot boy.
Speaker 6:These people just be throwing their daggone life away for nothing. I mean what you going to get from. I don't know Ricky Pierce or like that, but what the heck you think you're going to get. You think he's walking around with a million dollars in his pocket.
Speaker 3:No, he was at a luxury store in Union Square and he was wearing a Rolex watch and some other jewelry and the dude robbed him at gunpoint. And then they fired it and then the dude shot him.
Speaker 6:Okay, so you're going to take his jewelry and pawn it. What to get a band. Because you ain't going to get real Rolex money because they know you're going to go to this pawn shop in the hood where they got a couple bands on them. We're going to give you a band for it. What kind of stupidity is it? What are we doing? Come on man, we better than that. Are we doing? Come on man, we better than that.
Speaker 3:He was initially charged with attempted murder, assault with a semi automatic weapon and attempted second degree robbery. They said they added some more gun related charges. I don't know that's tough. He shot me in my chest. That's attempted murder. I don't like to. That's tough, I would think like he shot me in my chest.
Speaker 4:That's attempted murder. I don't like to think that's attempted murder.
Speaker 3:But I mean I understand the fighting part of it, like are you going to be like eh?
Speaker 6:Why didn't Gary sit there and let you just shoot me? Yeah, like if you're not going to rob me, I'm going to fight you If you got me at gunpoint.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I could give you everything and you can still shoot me right, or we can fight. I can try to keep my things or nonetheless and or disarm you and when the risks are still getting shot, like the risk of getting shot is gonna always be there.
Speaker 4:So, like you said, I'm I'm gonna fight crazy thing is they're deciding if they're gonna actually try him as an adult or not yeah, he's, yeah, he's 17, so yeah, he's gonna try it as an adult or not.
Speaker 6:Yeah, he's 17. He's going to try it as an adult, because this happened in Cali, didn't?
Speaker 4:it.
Speaker 6:Yeah, they're going to try that boy as an adult.
Speaker 3:Or a lot of times. What they do is hold him in jail until they turn 18.
Speaker 6:Until they turn 18. And that's sad man because you threw your life away for a couple thousand dollars.
Speaker 3:If you would have asked for an autograph or something, he probably would've looked out. He probably would've. You know what?
Speaker 4:I mean, I don't, he probably would've gave you more than that.
Speaker 6:Yeah, like you know what I mean, I mean, but I'm just saying like not even being funny, I know, over some jewelry. Bro know Ricky Pearsall, but unless he came for money or something, he ain't got no money like that, bro, a couple hundred thousand on the time these kids is different.
Speaker 5:now, bro, he didn't got a couple checks from the 49ers already, so he got it.
Speaker 4:But you got to look at it 30 million guaranteed. But you got to look at it. So I guaranteed, but you got to look at it.
Speaker 5:I'm sure he got a signing bonus of at least 5 million.
Speaker 4:I better say you got to look at it from a kid, though A kid ain't going to really know all of that. They don't know, they're not thinking like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, he got money.
Speaker 3:With money, or at least enough money, to buy some nice jewelry, because I've seen it, you know, I can see this jewelry and, hey, I'm about to go. You know what I mean? This is a walking lick right here. Let me get this real quick and get on my way, yeah.
Speaker 4:Like you know Probably the kid. I bet you the kid probably didn't even know who he was, Probably not.
Speaker 2:Definitely not yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, okay, that's actually all I got, jared man. What are we defunding this week Outside of the Bengals? You cannot defund the Bengals.
Speaker 5:I was going to say something to get us canceled. Let's just say oh what. Let's just say it was going to be in regards to Mr Deshaun Watson, so I'm going to keep that to myself. Yikes. We would have probably got canceled if I had said what I wanted to say Well, you teeter-tottering on it now.
Speaker 3:We're curious. Now I'm just going to shut up, all right. Final thoughts, justin.
Speaker 6:Nah, man, I ain't got nothing. Really, man, good to be back. Man see y'all fellas bro that's it man uh, appreciate it. Good, good to be back man. So now, like we'll see week two coming up for the nfl and then I think it's a couple good college games coming up this weekend too. So looking forward to when some of these schools actually start playing real schools in college football versus jump off is October. Yeah, so.
Speaker 5:October 12th, Vernon.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm just saying October in a nutshell.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 3:I mean, there's other games in October too. No, I was just saying Come back, old camera getting gangster man. Why your face?
Speaker 6:in the camera like that. Hey, he just should have.
Speaker 5:I just got a text message about some plans that you got for your birthday on October 2nd. That's why I put the emphasis on October 2nd.
Speaker 3:Okay, we can do the weekend before we fund your birthday. That's what we do, bro, but listen, no, okay, that's why you, my guy, you're fun to me, that's funny, that's funny. I messed up on that because she asked me do you want to do the weekend before or do the weekend after? I was thinking let me give people more time to kind of figure out plans. That's the reason why I said the weekend after. Now that you said that we definitely can do the weekend before.
Speaker 4:October 12th is.
Speaker 6:We can definitely do the weekend before that why is it the biggest day in college football?
Speaker 5:It's like some good games, it's like a whole bunch of good games.
Speaker 2:It's like a whole bunch of good games.
Speaker 3:It's going to change.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a Saturday.
Speaker 3:So we can definitely go live. I think my birthday is on a Tuesday, so it would be like the 5th, the 4th or the 5th.
Speaker 4:Here, fox, I can tell you real quick the 12th, the schedule for the 12th, that is, hold up it's coming up here.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, no, we can definitely do it. Ohio State, Oregon.
Speaker 4:That's on that day that day.
Speaker 5:Lsu, ole Miss, usc, penn State.
Speaker 4:Georgia Mississippi.
Speaker 5:State. It's pretty loaded.
Speaker 4:It's loaded that day yeah.
Speaker 5:Texas and Oklahoma, alabama, south Carolina.
Speaker 4:That's going to be a good game. Notre Dame got Stanford that day, that's a good game. Notre Dame got Stanford that day that's a good game too.
Speaker 3:That's all. Yeah, they always play each other.
Speaker 4:They always play each other too.
Speaker 3:October 12th is going to be lit.
Speaker 5:Yeah it's going to be lit.
Speaker 4:I mean depending on who all say they coming. That Purdue-Illinois game is going to be good because Illinois is actually decent this year. True that? So true that. Uh, I mean, I think we just waiting to hear from y'all y'all. Two wives, oh man, my wife with me, not you not, you not, you're not, not not I'm talking about, I'm up on john uh.
Speaker 3:She in recovery yeah, yeah, justin, and uh, jared it's, it's waiting to hear from y'all. I mean, if y'all am, I mean we and the weekend before it works, then shoot, we can do the weekend before I didn't even know what you were talking about.
Speaker 6:So when Jared said it it just reminded me my wife got the text.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because Siobhan sent it out.
Speaker 6:Well, she said no. Siobhan sent me a text. I was like ah, I said Siobhan ain't got my number, number I was like just send it to Charlotte. I read the text, as a matter of fact, as soon as I get done, when I go upstairs. That's what she's going to tell me.
Speaker 4:If y'all can do the weekend before.
Speaker 3:We'll do the weekend before. It ain't no big deal to me.
Speaker 4:Y'all just pray for my wife. Maybe I'll have Fox lay his hands on her or something. Get in that word before that time. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Need that healing power. Oh man, yeah, yeah, nah, man, she'll be alright. I mean, you can watch it. She in the recovery room.
Speaker 4:They usually have TVs and stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, she'll be at home. We won't travel anywhere.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 4:She can't travel no man, you can't. Wow, you trying to get me in trouble. Why are you always trying to get me in trouble? Why?
Speaker 2:are you always? He do this.
Speaker 4:Don't listen to him, because he do this all the time where he trying to get me in trouble. You know what?
Speaker 3:Honestly, that's Ike to me. What that man any chance he?
Speaker 4:He be trying to get me in trouble.
Speaker 3:bro, he got to throw me under, don't be under the bus and get me in trouble. Man, he is that devil on my shoulder all the time.
Speaker 6:I'm confused, I don't know what you're talking about. I take offense to what you're saying. All I said is your wife got a dog, wow. So she ain't going to be by herself, that's gangster?
Speaker 4:Why not? Why not? No, that's cool. I'm going to tell her what you said. Was she choking?
Speaker 6:Don't do that. She already said she's going to hurt you.
Speaker 3:Felicia threatened me day one I was with Siobhan day one.
Speaker 4:That's a violent word yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, at church I was like oh okay, yeah, she serious, all right, we cool but man, I mean, I got nothing. Man. I appreciate y'all joining us again, man, uh and no, I don't have nothing, man.
Speaker 4:I appreciate the invite. I definitely will be back. It's been a long time coming so I appreciate the invite.
Speaker 3:so, yeah, man, no, man, we appreciate you uh, joining us. Man. Uh, I got a lot of things going on, man, in Ohio with his family, so while he figuring that out, man, we'd love to have you on here. Keep this thing rolling, man, for sure. Alright, man, this has been the Epic Podcast. We see y'all next week, man.
Speaker 4:Peace.