E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
Season 3 Kickoff: Summer Highlights, WNBA Rookies, and NFL Insights
Picture this: you're enjoying a sunny summer break, filled with beach trips and family fun, while your favorite podcast hosts are gearing up for an epic comeback. That's right, we're back with Season 3, and we're bringing you all the highlights from our summer, including our daughters' volleyball escapades! Buckle up as we relive the thrill of the recent Olympics, where Team USA dominated in basketball and the legendary Simone Biles left us all in awe. We'll also give a shout-out to stars like Paul Skeens and Shohei Ohtani, and set the stage for a season packed with sports debates, starting with our WNBA MVP favorites like A'ja Wilson.
Ever wondered what makes a rookie stand out in the WNBA? We're turning the spotlight on Coyier from the Minnesota Lynx and Kaitlyn Clark, who's making waves in her debut season. The Fever's chemistry boost, thanks to Aaliyah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell, gets a special mention as we debate the top contenders for Rookie of the Year, with Angel Reese in the mix. Then, we switch gears to Florida State football, dissecting quarterback DJ Ugaleli’s rocky performance and proposing a game-changing strategy to play to his strengths. If you’re a fan of in-depth football analysis, you won’t want to miss our thoughts on their recent strategic blunders and game plan adjustments.
And for those NFL enthusiasts, we've got a treat! We explore Travis Hunter's potential to play both offense and defense, drawing parallels with Deion Sanders and weighing in on modern football's evolving dynamics. Get ready for a heated discussion on player holdouts, with examples like Brandon Aiyuk and Trent Williams, and the financial chess game of NFL contracts featuring stars like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. Finally, we shine a spotlight on college wide receivers transitioning to the NFL, with Marvin Harrison Jr. leading the charge. From team chemistry to rookie impacts, we cover it all. This season opener is just the beginning of our sports journey together – don't miss out!
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Speaker 2:Oh, welcome. Welcome back to season. This is our third year doing this season three.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't keep up.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I'm telling you, it's season three Episode one y'all. So same place, different faces Outside of me and Jerry. You know we keep it consistent, you know. Shout out to Ike personal reasons. Shout out to Justin, who's volleyball season, so we'll be on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, depending on. My daughter got volleyball, and then we got Boom in the house, which he was in and out last year, Supposed to be on every show Made it to two shows. We appreciate it, though.
Speaker 2:We gonna make do, absolutely. We'll have somebody else new joining us next week. We're gonna keep it. Live for you. Keep some faces in the house, keep you out with the opinions. Man, try to go a little harder this season. We did it last season, but we took a break, man. We didn't cover the Olympics and WNBA, but we're going to dive right back into it, man. It was a great Olympics man. How's y'all break man? Let's start with you.
Speaker 3:Jared, it's been cool man Just trying to keep up with all the stuff that's been going on. Yeah, the Olympics was crazy. Shout out to Team USA, specifically the men's basketball squad their business, the women handle business. You know, simone Biles is going, simone Biles. And yeah, man, the Reds suck, I mean you know, same old, same old, Same old, same old. I'm no same old, so it's been a pretty cool summer. It went fast as hell. But other than that.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, Just tapping in and out of little things as I go. Paul Skeens is cooking. I'm watching him now. I've been watching him all summer. He's on fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was going crazy for the Indians before they got called up. Damn, waste no time.
Speaker 3:They're like oh, yeah, man, yeah, yeah yeah, shohei's going for 50 home runs, a 50 stolen bases, so I'm tracking that a little bit. But yeah, man, just enjoying the summer, enjoying the family, how you been.
Speaker 2:Man, good man, just same thing. Man kicking it with the fam Volleyball. Volleyball started Again. Shout out to Jesse, our daughters do volleyball.
Speaker 3:Shoot me the schedule too, bro.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to pop out Shoot Tomorrow and Thursday. Either game Wednesday is at Raymond Park and the other one is away, I don't know which one. I'll send you a picture of the schedule.
Speaker 3:I might be able to make that one happen. I might have to bring the dinosaur, though it don't matter, I'm going to be there with the baby because I uh siobhan got to work, so I'll be there with the baby. Uh, okay, what?
Speaker 2:time, uh, how much it costs to get in there. So I'll bring, uh, it's like seven dollars damn all right, yeah, yeah are we in front row seats for that you can sit wherever you want I'll be in the front row.
Speaker 1:I'll be one of the first ones there, so I'm always sitting there yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sitting next to Denise at that point.
Speaker 2:I'll be going crazy. Y'all might not want to sit by me. Y'all might not want to act like y'all don't know me. I'm with the shits bro.
Speaker 3:What time does it start, though? At six I, low-key, might be able to do that. I'll let you know for sure.
Speaker 2:They play second anyway, so if you can't be there at six, they usually get on around seven.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I need to expose artists more and stuff. We'll talk more about that off air, but yeah, I might be able to do that.
Speaker 2:Cool, cool, cool Boom. How's your summer been, man?
Speaker 4:Man, it's been cool, man Just been maintaining, man just been maintaining, you know, keeping things together, trying to stay on top of these sports man and make sure you know, don't nobody get out of line.
Speaker 2:I think I know what you mean by that. If anybody follow Boone on social media then you know what he talking about, because he always checking the haters.
Speaker 4:That's true man. He always checking the haters. People be sidestepping you.
Speaker 2:you gotta get people in line, man man for real, nah, nah, but for sure we go, we gonna jump into it though, let's get it, let's, let's get into it, man, uh, we're gonna start off with the WNBA man. So right now, man with them starting back, getting back in the grind after the Olympic break, who's the MVP? Right now, y'all think, well, let's start with the MVP, then we'll talk about rookie of the year.
Speaker 3:I really ain't even been really tapped into the stats so I don't really know who's doing what. I know Las Vegas Aces, oh, aja Wilson, aja Wilson. I know she's cooking so I've been tapped in a little bit to her. Andres is doing her thing on the boards. She like broke the record for most rebounds in the season. That's crazy. Kaylin Clark has been holding it down. Kelsey Mitchell has been hooping lately too. So I don't even really I can't even act like I know enough to say who will be the MVP. I guess if I'd have to give it to somebody, it would be Asia Wilson. Kaylin Clark is definitely top five. She would definitely get a top five vote for MVP, let alone rookie year for sure.
Speaker 2:All right With Asia Wilson. Right now she is the front runner. She averaging 26, shooting 51% from the field. That's crazy. How many boards a game. Right now she's at 12. She's second right them. They're 12. She's second right behind Angel Reese in rebounding. She first in blocks, tied for third in steals.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's that damn. Sounds like defensive player here too.
Speaker 2:And she just recorded her eighth game of the summer with 15 points and 15 rebounds, so which is a single-segment record?
Speaker 3:Yeah 26 and 12, first in blocks, second in rebounds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, third in steals.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's MVP.
Speaker 2:and potentially defensive player of the year. Yeah, both yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:What about?
Speaker 2:you. What about you, Dom who?
Speaker 4:do you think? Definitely Aja man. I mean hell, she's an unstoppable force. You know she does her thing night in, night out. Unfortunately, Her teammates ain't helping her out enough. Right now I don't know what's going on. They got too many good players On that squad man to be Having her score 41.17 Rebounds and you know you're losing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was about to say you ain't got lost.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like that's wild, you get numbers like that you would think the team and you know you lose it. Yeah, I was about to say you ain't got a loss. Yeah, like that's wild, like you get numbers like that you would think the team probably would have won by probably 20 or something.
Speaker 2:20, yeah, you leave that 20-point win.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but nah, man, I don't know what's going on with the Aces man. They kind of been hot-dogging here for a little while. Hot dog in here for a little while. But I would definitely say honestly, if the Fever finish in the top five at the end of the year, if they have like a top five record, kayla Clark might have to be like number two MVP vote. She's going to be up there for sure, right you? Going from the worst team last year, number one pick, to becoming the top five team, this is their first time being over 500. In five years, that's right Since 2009.
Speaker 4:2019. Yeah, 2019. My bad.
Speaker 2:I think since 2009. Yeah, yeah, since what you call a retard.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like you just got to give credit where it's due, man, and it's a lot of mess going on. But you know game, recognize game.
Speaker 1:But Asia's number one.
Speaker 4:Asia, she got it you know, hands down. They might as well just go ahead and put her name on the MVP and, like Jared said you know, give her that defensive player of the year award too, because you know to have them finish second in rebounds and third in steals. I mean hell. What more can you ask for from your center?
Speaker 3:to do that. And Ogunbuale is hooping too, don't get me wrong, she's hooping too.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, but with Arike it's more because of their record. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I don't think they're winning enough for her to be able to get MVP. She's going to get some votes, though, I'm sure.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like if they was like top five they might be unanimous actually?
Speaker 3:Huh, I think Asia might be unanimous, but I mean, I guess they're unanimous.
Speaker 2:Oh no, you got Coyier from the Minnesota, lynx, who's been balling too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what's her average?
Speaker 2:She's shooting 66% from the field and 42% from the three, and they lost the game in August with two wins over the Aces, and Friday they just beat them. She scored 27 and had 18 boards and shot 73% from the field.
Speaker 3:I got to see what that whole year looking like, though you said she averaged at 25?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 25. Really 26. So it's, 25.6. Yeah.
Speaker 4:She's right, there has she been playing all season. It's 25.6.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's right there. She's been playing all season. Yeah, she's been right there, she's right there scoring.
Speaker 3:That goes to show you how the media controls narratives.
Speaker 2:for sure, because, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3:I couldn't even tell you what she look like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, that's crazy. She's been balling so I don't know If she stay on this run into the playoff playoffs, because I think Minnesota Lynx is like third in the league behind the Liberty and Connecticut, I think they're right there, I think it's the Liberty, connecticut, the Aces and then the Lynx.
Speaker 2:But shoot, we're beating the Aces twice, shoot. You might have to look back and kind of say, all right, she is playing just as good as her, if not a slight bit better. I don't know what her defensive stats is, I just had offense right here, but you know what I mean. Like she right there with Asia Wilson. You know what I mean, at least since the Olympic break. So you know what have you done for me lately? Type deal, yeah, so. And MVP I mean not MVP but rookie of the year. Yeah, the frontrunner right now, I think, is Kaitlyn Clark, just with the way she started, the way she got now. You know she got 21 games with at least 15 points and five assists on the season. That's more than any WNBA player ever. Next, she got 85 threes that's the most by any rookie. She averaging 18, uh, eight and five and almost two steals, while shooting 41 from the field. She leads the league in turnovers, but I mean she handles the ball more than anybody, uh, on any other team.
Speaker 4:So and you got to understand a lot of those turnovers came in like that first month. Yeah yeah yeah he was damn near getting like nine or ten turnovers a game like that first month. But once that to me once it was kind of really things started turning up after this Olympic break. Yeah, you start handling the ball better and things like that. And plus you got to also understand that some of the I would say maybe 40% of those turnovers came from teammates not being able to catch the ball. You know stuff like that, you know.
Speaker 2:And that comes with chemistry too. Like I think that break they took time to build some chemistry, because now they're looking for the ball. When she got the ball, you know what I mean? The behind, the back passes and the quick passes, you know what I mean? Like, like they're moving better and they're anticipating the passes coming to them, uh, at a better rate. So it's keeping her assist or her, not her assist but her turnovers down, uh, after, like you say, after the olympic break. So no, I'm with you on that see.
Speaker 3:And then also, uh, I don't think some of the ladies were prepared for how well Kaitlyn Clark could pass. Yes, I think that's what led to a lot of turnovers too, because she's like up here, you know, and they're not ready for it. But I think they're ready for it now, and I think Aaliyah Boston's came on strong lately as well because, to start the season when they were one and eight, they were able to trap Kaitlyn Clark because Aaliyah Boston couldn't do nothing with it.
Speaker 3:That first few weeks of the season she wasn't doing anything with the pass off the track. She was doing nothing with it. But now she's hit a couple jump shots. I've seen her hit a couple threes. They can't play that same kind of defense. I think that's what opened everything up for the Fever.
Speaker 2:They look good?
Speaker 3:I don't think anybody wants to see them in the first round.
Speaker 2:And who else this was? Who else the other chick on the Fever? Who? Kelsey Mitchell?
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, Kelsey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she came along too. It just seemed like now these top draft picks that the Fever invested in over the past three or four years are now now coming on. You know what I mean? Because the pressure is not on them. You know, I mean everybody's pressuring, pressuring caitlin, so now she can really distribute the ball and kind of have a more balanced.
Speaker 3:Uh yeah, offense for them, it's almost like, uh, kelsey mitchell flipped the switch. It's almost like something, just like oh, we actually could be good. Yeah, you know, but she was kind of just going through the motions. Now she knows exactly how to attack, but not take away from anybody else. Oh, she going crazy. She going crazy. Caitlin's going crazy. Alia boston's doing what she do, like everybody's peaking at the right point, like the fever, look good. And, like I said, if I'm the sun or you know, uh, the, I don't want to play the fever in the first round. That's just, that would just be me.
Speaker 3:So no, I agree with that real interesting and I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be tapped in to it for sure who do you think the uh top uh challenger is for the rookie of the year?
Speaker 3:hey, andrew reese, for sure, I sure I think it's Angel Reese. Angel Reese, I think, will get second. She'll be first team all-rookie, which isn't anything to sneeze at. She'll be up there. She'll be second, for sure, but I'm not sure. She'll probably get a few first place votes. I'm sure a few people are going to vote for her first place, but she's not going to win.
Speaker 2:Nah, I can't see that I agree with that. I agree, yeah, because right now she's about to break Tina Charles' rookie record for most double-doubles. She already set the record for the most consecutive double-doubles, with 15.
Speaker 3:She definitely got to work on her finishing a little bit. She'll miss some bunnies, but them boards I mean. You know I'm a stat guy. If you hooping, you hooping. I don't care what the narrative is, I don't care what the media got to say. If you hooping out there, you hooping.
Speaker 2:And people just got to deal with it. Yeah, she got three games, three games with 20 or more rebounds Consecutively. Nobody's even had two. She's averaging uh 13 and a half points and almost 13 rebounds 12, 9 um. And they were talking about her shooting percentage. You know it's low, it's like 38 that's crazy for a post player. Yeah, and they're saying that like that. You know people was saying that that impacted her rebounds. But I got a stat right here. It says only 53 out of her 374 rebounds are off her own missed shot.
Speaker 2:So even if they took, those away, she would still be averaging 11 boards a game.
Speaker 3:On the flip side of that. I'm not sure if that's a lot or if that's, I don't know, because you said out of 403?.
Speaker 2:Out of the total yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:so out of 374 oh so let's just say three of them is what 12.5 I don't know if that's high, I don't know if that's low. I 'd actually like anthony davis or yannis or some shit, just to put that in perspective, because I don't know how that is, because I mean that could still be very high because, like the normal, if the normal, but it only takes, it only takes her, it only takes her average down by 1.8.
Speaker 3:So no, I'm saying she's getting the boards, but but 12, 12, 12.5 percent of your rebounds coming from your that I don't know if that's high or low or normal. Oh yeah, it don't seem high but say, the league average is 1.75%, 12.5%. That's a lot but like you said, if you take all those away she's still averaging more than I think anybody else. So I mean, it's neither here nor there Like she's hooping, she's doing it and that is what it is.
Speaker 2:But that's still even her getting her own rebound. I mean, that's tough to do anyway, right, that's a rebound, nigga, yeah. So she's still hustling on the offensive board and being in a standing position to even get her own miss Facts. I don't look at that as a knock, as other people are. So they got a consensus NBA first team. So right now you got Asia Wilson Coyier. Now you got Asia Wilson Coyier, you got Brianna Stewart, thomas from the Sun, sabrina from Liberty I'm not going to say her last name because I can't and then second team, right now that Kaitlyn Clark's on the second team, jacquel Jones I'm just going to shut up. Kaitlyn McBride I know, I know, I know. And then you got Jackie Young, and I can't even say her last name, but from the.
Speaker 2:Seattle song. But so yeah, right now, but it could change of course, but yeah.
Speaker 3:I'll just stay quiet on that, but I mean she might.
Speaker 2:I mean, depending on how the fever ends the season, she might end up jumping over to the first team. Yeah, we'll see. All right, nonetheless, let's jump over to college football, the first. I guess, I mean you could really say first week, yeah, so let's start with the Georgia Tech-Florida State game. Like, did anybody see that coming? I'm going to start with you. Boom on that. We can't hear you Boom. We can't hear you Nope.
Speaker 3:Nope, god damn, nope, nope.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:Can you hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you now. Good, can you hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you now.
Speaker 4:That's why I was wondering bro, you've been talking, I've been trying to talk and y'all kept talking. I'm like I've been trying to talk and y'all kept talking.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'm going to shut up my bad Thor, my bad Thor.
Speaker 4:We didn't hear anything bro, my bad Thor.
Speaker 2:Thor, you're two cents a rookie of the year, I'm sure that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4:Nah, nah, it's cool, we passed it. It's cool, dang. As far as Georgia Tech and Florida State man, nah, hell, nah, I ain't see that coming. Nobody saw that coming.
Speaker 4:Because you got a Florida State team man, they got all these athletes, and then you add DJ Ugaleli and you know that guy right there is just, you know, he's damn near like an elder statesman in the game at this point, like you ain't got to really got to really put him on a leash or anything. Just let him go out there and borrow. He's showing what he's been all his career. He's just a very subpar quarterback. Honestly, I feel like what teams are probably doing is thinking he's more of a Gus Link or a Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert, like just because he's a big quarterback and he looks the part, they feel like that's who he should be. To me, I think if he was more of an offense where it was run heavy and he was like a game manager, he might be able to, you know, make something happen. He might be able to do better. But with a lot of these teams he's just been in a spread offense where they want him to pass the ball RPO type stuff and it's not working out for him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm going to agree with that. Dj is not good, he's just not good. I say that with all the most respect, he's just not good. I mean and I say that with all the most respect Like he's just not good. I don't know why Florida State just refuses to run the ball. That's just. I mean, maybe they figured it out that they couldn't. But I watched a lot of that game last night and it was just throw after throw after throw after throw, incompletion after incompletion after incompletion. Like I couldn't figure out, to save my life, why they wouldn't run the ball or didn't come in with a plan to run the ball. I mean, there was no screens, like everything was drop back, read the defense and make a play, and it's like no college quarterback should have to do that. Every single snap, like there should be.
Speaker 3:College football is all about like kind of I don't want to say dumbing it down but, for lack of a better word, dumbing it down and telling the quarterback where to go with the ball, like a lot of college football is predicated on. The ball goes here, like get the ball here. Like you have those few quarterback. But even if you look back at, like patrick mahomes in college, like none of these guys were what we see now. A A lot of these guys were the ball goes here, you get the ball here. Screen swing, pass, just simple stuff. They didn't do any of that. It was all like drop back and try to carve this defense up and he's not that type of player.
Speaker 3:But like there was no draws, draws, like the running play, there was no options. I mean I didn't see any design QB runs, it was just, it was nothing. Like I didn't see anything. I didn't see a whole bunch of like misdirection. Uh, whenever I watch a whole college game and I don't see like one touch pass, you know, on the jet sweep didn't see any of that. Everything was dropped back and DJ try to cook. It wasn't going to work.
Speaker 2:He only threw for 193 yards.
Speaker 3:No touchdown he threw the ball like 40-something times.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was talking about the Georgia Tech game, my bad.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay. You're talking about the Washington College game I was talking about last night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just like why is this offense?
Speaker 3:just, I mean it was running it like he was Peyton Manning or something playing quarterback. I didn't understand that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then even, like I said, against Georgia Tech man, their leader running back had 12 carries and 38 yards on touchdown. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 2:Like in college football, like what Especially?
Speaker 3:Florida State. That's a typical tough running the ball like smash mouth team. Like for them not to have any effect on the ground is it's crazy. And it's crazy that just lets you know.
Speaker 4:That just lets you know that they were depending on dj to be that pass happy quarterback. They was running that spread offense thinking, you know. Let's put the ball in his hands, you know, and have him throw 35 times a game. Instead of flipping it. Let's run the ball 35, 40 times. Let him throw the ball. Let's say maybe 20 to 25. Right.
Speaker 4:So, he can make those efficient throws where you can get those playmakers into space and let them do their thing. You know, trying to just, you know, be flashy. You know it's not always good, you know, especially him coming to the team. You know, through the transfer portal this is last year. Like he doesn't have that type of chemistry with a lot of those guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's just the way I mean. And again, like and I say this to the Florida State fans just because, like after last year and how they was talking crazy about how the playoffs went and not making it in, regardless of winning, you know, their conference championship, it's like Florida State has lost their opener like the past, like three years in a row, like they haven't won an opener in three years.
Speaker 4:Well, you forgot what happened to them in the bowl game last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got this demolished. It was like, and it wasn't even close.
Speaker 3:Yeah it wasn't even close. A lot of guys didn't play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm still. I'm just saying to go from that to be in this uproar. And now this year you come out and shit the bed against Georgia Tech and then turn around and do it again on.
Speaker 3:Monday. I think losing to Boston College is worse than Georgia Tech.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, though, I mean shit, I look at it, them are equal.
Speaker 4:Hey, boston College ran them boys in the ground? Yeah, I think they had. They had over 200 yards rushing. Yeah, for sure, because the quarterback only had, he didn't throw for a whole lot.
Speaker 3:I think he only threw like maybe 10 to 15 times yeah, I want to say he was like 10 for 16, for like 100 and it wasn't definitely right, but he had, like I want to say he had like 70 to 80 yards rushing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the running back, they top rusher had 19 carries for 81 yards and touchdown and they QB he'd shoot 10 to 16 for 106 and two touchdowns. But then, like you said, dj threw a 42 time. He has 21 to 41 for 272. A touchdown in the pit, yeah, that's. But then, like you said, dj threw a 42-time. He has 21-41 for 272. A touchdown in the pit. Boy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:That boy booty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Wait a minute. But then their top rusher only had three carries for 11 yards. Why are y'all not running the ball?
Speaker 4:Because, they wanted to.
Speaker 3:Even when the game, I could see if you was trailing 28 to nothing the whole game.
Speaker 2:No, but at halftime it was 14 to 6.
Speaker 3:They just were not running the ball at all. I'm like damn, not even a little bit. They were running the ball at all.
Speaker 4:Them coaches did not prepare them. They did not prepare them. They did not have the right game plan. That's what really happened. They didn't have the right game plan. That's what really happened. They didn't have the right game plan and they thought that just because we lost against Georgia Tech, our guys is fired up we this, and that they played off of emotions rather than hey, let's get back to square one. We need to execute, we need to come out, we need to hit them in the mouth.
Speaker 2:We need to go up 21-0 and then start running this ball, letting our athletes do our thing, but instead, and then, especially if you're seeing that your defense isn't stopping the other team, you can run the ball and tire them out. You know what I mean. Tire that defense out, especially if y'all not getting stops on the other side. Get your defense chance to rest, because y'all gave up 14 in the second half and then turned around and right at the halftime gave up 14 again, while only scoring six in the first half and scoring seven in the second half. Like that's not going to get it done, you know against anybody.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, especially you being in ACC and trying to compete like it's not going to happen, like you got to put up some points and if you can't stop the other team you need to bleed the clock and you need to give your defense a chance to recover or scheme or something, because these running like three rushes for 11 yards, like come on bro. There's no reason why you should have had to put it up 42 times and college.
Speaker 4:That's a coach. That's a coach's that had to put it up 42 times. That's a coach. They lost that game because of their coaches Hands down.
Speaker 2:I definitely agree with that. Moving on man, they're beating up Florida State enough. Colorado wins against North Dakota State 31-26. I think we've all seen the highlights that Travis Hunter catch bro. He's ridiculous bro. Wow, he's ridiculous man Bro, he's ridiculous Bro. Okay, so I got a question Do y'all think he could play both?
Speaker 3:sides in the NFL. You know what I was listening to Ocho and Shannon Sharp go back and forth about that. I mean I got to respect what they said because they're out there and they said absolutely not. So I mean they got to respect what they said because they're out there and they said absolutely not. So I mean they're out there. They know what it takes. I'll give it to them. But in my thoughts, royce is football. It's literally a game, it's a sport. You know what I'm saying and I know I can't compare that to you know when we were kids playing both ways, but it's just like I don't see how it's so unimaginable for a guy to play both ways. Deion did Right. He played all three. Deion is one of the probably top five best athletes of all time off the strength of what he's done.
Speaker 3:So you kind of got a grade on the curve there. But I don't see, I don't know, because I'm the type of player that you know when I hear NBA players talk about. Oh, we got to play a back-to-back. Like bro, what you getting paid millions, yeah, to play a game Like you've never had a real job a day in your life.
Speaker 4:And you talking about you crying about playing 36, 40 minutes back to back nights and nine times out of ten.
Speaker 3:You're not even practicing right, you're gonna shoot
Speaker 4:you're gonna shoot around and then you're gonna play like 30. You're gonna play like 30 minutes out of that day right.
Speaker 3:And again, I'm not trying to compare it to life as a kid, but raise your hand if you used to play outside basketball sun up to sun down.
Speaker 2:All day, all day, son, all day, all day.
Speaker 3:I mean, I know that there's no. Now I can't say that there's no comparison, because energy and effort is energy and effort. I don't care. But like come on now. Yeah, bruh, but you know I digress Like I'm going to leave that conversation up to you know, the guys who are actually out there and doing it, but I can't see how it's not possible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with you. I think you can Like. Like I said, Deion did it back in, back in the tough football days Right Without all the rules and stuff, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, like now, with you know the defensive rules. So even if he primarily played defense, like if he'd get in on a couple wide receiver plays you know what I mean if they run in. You know what I mean? Uh, trips, tight end or something like that, you know what I mean. He's a third receiver, he coming in in the slot or something like that. I think he could do it. You know what I mean, especially if he get in the right system. Um, I don't see why he couldn't, especially if they got a strong run game where he ain't got to be out there blocking and stuff. He can just come in when needed on. You know passing downs, you know third and distance, things like that. I don't see why he can't. And you got to respect him, um, because the hands are about to say the hands, the hands he's showing you.
Speaker 2:The hands are great. Um, the question is, is he a better receiver than db or like we're, I don't know?
Speaker 4:yeah, I would put on I would literally put he would be my number one corner. Definitely, because let's be real here, you know he's gonna play wide receiver, so you know he got good ass hands, yeah, and he go probably damn near run that route as that wide receiver, yeah, so you know.
Speaker 4:I would definitely have him as my number one corner, but on the flip side I would have him as that three or four going on the other side, like, of course I'm not going to have him, he's going to be number one, the defense just got off the field.
Speaker 4:It's a punt. And then, for the first offensive series, had him come out and no, I'm not going to do that, I'm going to allow him to get a breather. So, yeah, I would put him on offense. I'd probably get him maybe 10, 15 plays on offense a game.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Third, and distance you know what I mean Third and seven. You know third and you know what I mean, those distances where you got to spread the field out.
Speaker 3:Only thing with that is I think if you do do the 10 to 15 games, you got to make sure it's not gimmicky, because gimmicky shit don't work in the NFL. Because they're going to know, yeah, they're going to catch on real quick as long as I think if you get a man you know 15 to 25 plays a game, I think the gimmicky factor goes away. But like if he was to come out there, five to ten plays like you can kind of start figuring out what those plays are too gimmicky and those guys are way too fast, way too strong.
Speaker 3:Coaches are way too good, way too smart and I don't think if they, if he's a gimmick on offense not gonna work, if he's just a natural flow of the game, like he might be out there on first down, he might be out there third and long, third and short, like you just kind of mix him in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was about to say yeah, if you mix him in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that you'll have better luck. But if you just like the gimmick, shit is not going to work, absolutely not. So they either got to go a medium, like a moderate amount of plays, or just none at all. Right, like, if you do that five to ten shit, nah, he's going to probably get hurt because they're going to try to kill him. Oh, definitely they just use him like a regular third or fourth. You know wide receiver.
Speaker 4:Because what you got to think is that when he comes in, nine times out of ten he's going to go up against your nickel corner, or if you do a four-wide set, he might mess around and get that fourth corner. Yeah, now they got to kind of pick and choose, you know what they want to do.
Speaker 2:What Mitch matches You're going to move one of your ones and twos down to play the slot, you know what I mean. Or to play the fourth corner. It depends on who the other receivers are.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's what I'm saying. Yeah, Say you playing, nah, he wouldn't come on the Bengals. But say, like, you put him in there with, like Chase and Higgins, you ain't taking the one or the two off of either of them guys. Yeah, nah, In a situation like that it could get spooky. But like I don't know, I'm curious to see it it all depends on who he goes to, who they're playing. All that's going to factor into how. But I think it could work.
Speaker 4:It's just, you know, you can't just throw him in as the number one receiver you know, five to ten plays out of a game and think, no, that's not going to work. One team I think will be scary if he was to go to, will be the Rams.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I like the offense. I mean that would be cool. I think the Rams, I think it's a lot of teams that could get crazy with him for real, for real. Yeah, like the Rams, come him for real for real yeah, like the.
Speaker 2:Lions, the Lions.
Speaker 4:Like even the Lions. Yeah, what I mean?
Speaker 3:the Lions, because Lions Dolphins, I really think he would just have to start with, what team he wouldn't work on, like obviously him on the Patriots. Yeah, that's probably a shorter list, yeah.
Speaker 4:He wouldn't work on the Patriots because they need everything. Hey, his career going to hell he go to the Patriots. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Dolphins would just be the most insane thing ever. The Texans like come on now. He's going crazy. Shit. The Colts would probably be a good spot for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we need both. Yeah, if he's just coming in every corner and then can jump into the slot, he's going crazy in a lot of places.
Speaker 4:I think whatever team drafts him 10 times out of 10, they're going to put him as their number one corner. They're going to create packages, they're going to put him on offense for up to 15 plays. Because they don're going to put him on offense for up to, I think, up to 15 plays because they don't want to wear him down. They want to kind of prolong him.
Speaker 3:Also, you got to think about this too. I can't remember if Shannon or Ocho brought up this point, but he might want to be a receiver if the money's better. So it really is ultimately up to him. You know where he wants to, but, granted, I feel like he would have to speak on that prior to the draft. You know he would have to say, okay, I'm going into the draft as a wide receiver first, but I can cover. Or I'm going into the draft as a cover man, but I can play a little bit of wide receiver. They probably gonna have to make that known because that's gonna affect you know how much he's getting paid, where he goes to. You know who needs him.
Speaker 3:So all that but shit he might say nah, wire receiver one me please, yeah.
Speaker 2:In the Debo, in the Debo con. He might be in that Debo complex. You know what I mean, how he was with his money Like hey, look man, I got me playing receiver and running back. You know what I mean. I'm taking twice the hits Like I need to be in that line of money also.
Speaker 4:Whatever team drafts him whatever team drafts him, his first contract is going to be a headache.
Speaker 1:It's going to be dumb.
Speaker 4:That's what you got to kind of prepare for, if you draft him.
Speaker 3:You got to prepare for that A lot of questions about what are you trying to do? Are you playing corner or you playing wide receiver? You're not going to be able to play full-time both, so you got to pick and that's going to affect, you know, the, the pay scale. That's going to affect everything for him. A lot for real.
Speaker 2:But again, if you can get two, if you can get an elite corner and then a really good slot and one player, you kind of just slide that check out there and just let it be. You know what I mean, especially if he stayed durable and he's not hurt.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, like from what I heard he trains crazy, so like if you just get a good, solid player that stays on the field you know what I mean and can balance his plays, I wouldn't mind opening the checkbook to you, know what I mean? Yeah for sure, pain pay the man, as long as he earns it and he's showing on the field, can't argue with that. All right. Moving right along, um, we're just gonna run through these. Some of these top games. You had, uh, georgia versus clemson. They handled them. Uh, ge, georgia doing Georgia things 34-3.
Speaker 2:Notre Dame beat Texas A&M 23-13. That was a good win by Notre Dame. They really needed that win because the rest of their schedule was pretty soft until they get USC at the end of the season. So they needed to win that and they needed to dominate the rest of the season to kind of have that shot at the playoff. Because they strength the schedule. It's like 63rd, miami destroys Florida at Florida. So 41-17, that was crazy. I thought Florida would have competed a little better than that. But Miami's looking legit again. They looking really legit, especially on the offensive side side, and they got a qb. That kind of got that swagger. You know what I mean. They ain't had in a while.
Speaker 4:So yeah, cam cam is. What people don't realize is cam. He declared for the nfl draft and ended up coming back and going to the? U, so that was probably one of the biggest decisions for both him and Miami.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, he definitely showed up. He threw for 385. He definitely showed up, Crazy. And then you got that game. You was talking about the USC and LSU battle 27-20. Usc pulls that out, LSU on the defensive side. Well, no, I'll take that back. Usc on the defensive side is looking really, really good. I think we're kind of used to them being good offensively, but that defense is legit. Like you said, it was an entertaining game. I caught some of it. I was traveling this weekend so I caught some of it. But yeah, no, Really good game, Really good game. And then we already kind of talked about the BC game and the Florida State. Florida State just falling off the map. They're now unranked. I got that message just a minute ago. They took them out the top 25.
Speaker 4:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:You just lost the two unranked.
Speaker 2:You came in 10th. Did you bump down to 19? Did you lose again? Yeah, man, it's time to go. I'm going to sit down.
Speaker 4:That Florida State and Florida game. I want to see if they're going to put that on Snapchat.
Speaker 3:That took me a minute, but that's a good one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they need to put that on Snapchat.
Speaker 3:I was like where is he going with this? And they're like, oh damn, that was a great one. Alright man, we're my favorite. Yeah, that was a great one. Yeah, all right man.
Speaker 2:We're going to change gears a little bit, get off the college tips, let's talk about some pro ball man. I don't really have many topics, I just thought we could kind of like you know, dibble and dabble man.
Speaker 3:I want y'all to help me with something, if that's okay, yeah absolutely. I want y'all to help me with something. So I don't understand what's the point in having a player hold out and then end up paying them. And and on the two double, double-sided question, what is the point of holding out? Well, I get why. You were all right, so let's just go with that. From the from the owner's side, what? Is the point in having a guy hold out just to pay him anyway. Like what do you benefit from that?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't think the and I'm assuming we're talking about the Niners situation.
Speaker 3:The Niners? Yeah, well, yeah, both their guys. Really just anybody. I don't want to make this specific, but anybody who holds out and then gets paid right before the season starts.
Speaker 2:So I look at it like this the whole IU thing had been going on for a minute. He made it abundantly clear what he wanted. I'm just going to use that situation, since they got two dudes on the same team. I think they had to kind of wait on the Williams deal because they had to take care of the IU first to see how they could restructure Williams deal to get him what he wanted. Why?
Speaker 3:couldn't they have done that all summer?
Speaker 2:I just think, and from what I read, iuke was being difficult, like he was really like really making it hard on the Niners to you know kind of get what he won't. So that kind of holds it up for other guys because it's like all right, our, like, we, we can't forget parties right here, like, regardless of what we do, parties right here. But then when you got two of your key guys, you know wanting new contracts, like it's tough and you got a receiver, which receivers always tend to, you know, be difficult in these negotiations because you know everybody say they're divas which I get. But I think I you made it difficult on the Niners and it kind of made Williams kind of have to sit back and Twitter his thumbs because it's like if you granted Trent, williams is the probably the best tackle in the league. But when you look at a Uke and you really don't want to move him and you had all these offers, he's been asked for trade, he's been real loud. It's like we got to take care of this one way or another. We're clearly not trading him, so we got to make it work money-wise in order to get it to that.
Speaker 2:He said Trent didn't hold out until last minute? Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I mean, you don't want to lose the guys and I don't think teams really don't want to pay them. I don't think that's the thing. I just think it's working out because you got to think, as an agent, you're talking with the agent, you're trying to work it out with the agent, and then the agent is going back to the player trying to work it out with the player. You know what I mean. And, like, you got to think it's a three headed monster in this whole thing trying to figure out how to make it work.
Speaker 3:So I just feel like, well then, why wasn't there any offers before? Because the way I'm, the way I'm seeing it again outside, looking in. I don't know all the details, I don't have all the facts, I don't even know how all of this works. But, like, my thing is, why wouldn't you just at the start of this this is what I got, this is what I got. You could have set both guys down and be like hey, look, I can give you this. I can give you this If y'all want to be here, if y'all want to bargain and cut, you know I'm saying or if y'all want to fight over it. But this is what we got, this is what we're getting, this is what left tackles are getting y'all both important. We want y'all here. Y'all both claim y'all want to get here. This is what I have, and I don't know why it takes up until the first week of the season for teams to realize what they have and what they can offer to these guys now, I don't think.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's, I don't think it's that. But I think the longer the player waits and the closer you get to that first week, the more pressure it is on the team.
Speaker 3:So the players feel like they can squeeze out a little more. Why don't the teams take the pressure off themselves and just pay the people when they ask for or trade them? I'm not. If a player holds out on me and I'm an owner, it's either. I mean, it's not going to. If he's going to be here, he's not going to have to hold out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but, like I said, I said BA turned out multiple offers, even trades, that he asked for. So I think he I think he kind of like you said, when you're when someone's making it difficult on you, like you want the player. I don't think the Niners don't want IU, you know what I mean. Like if that's the case, then you would have just traded him. You know, like all that stuff you wouldn't even be negotiating with him. You'd be like all right, cool. Like you want a new contract. We don't feel like you work for a new contract, we'll trade you. Like.
Speaker 2:I think that makes it hard as far as leverage, because the player can just go on social media and say whatever they want to say. You know what I mean. They can build narratives, all these things to work out in their flavor and the team kind of got to stay quiet and kind of be like, hey look, we're still working with him. That's all they can really say. When a player can kind of really say whatever they want, to make it benefit them and they can apply the pressure, like you said, with more time by being difficult and, like you said, do you get somebody else like a Trent Williams that come up behind him and say, oh man, he want his restructure. So now there's even more pressure on the team to kind of get the first guy done, because now you got this one over here sitting here, 208 thumbs too, which these are both key players and you know your championship, championship aspirations, um, so yeah, he said ba was offered early. He didn't want, he didn't like the early offer. See, so like I mean, this coming from ike.
Speaker 3:You know somebody who would know, so tell me this how does the offer that he accepted, uh, compared to the offers that he turned down?
Speaker 2:I don't know I don't I don't know, I, I don't know that, I don't know that. Like I said, that would be definitely an Ike question. I'm sure he would know, let's see. He said, yeah, it takes two to tango, absolutely. So I just think, like you said, when it comes down to teams wanting players and players really wanting to stay but not showing their hand on, you know, because then if you make yourself seem desperate to stay with the team, then guess what? They're going to lowball you because they're going to be like all right, you want to be here, you don't really want to leave, even though you asked for a trade. That ain't really what you want. Then the team can lowball you and, of course, try to pay the least amount possible. But you know, players got to do what's best for them because, hey, look, you can get injured and he can have a career in the injury week one. And then what? You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And then I think these players got to chill on that too, because, like, how common is that I was talking to my statement?
Speaker 2:No, I'm just yeah, yeah but I'm just thinking like the team, though GM and the owners, y'all going to be here for years to come. You know what I mean. My career is a limited amount of time, so my job is to optimize and make the most money I can within that window. Let's say 10 years is really generous for most players. But that five to 10 years you know what I mean and trying to get that second contract and possibly a third, I have to optimize because I don't know if I'm going to get to that third contract, you know.
Speaker 3:So See, then that goes to the point that I was starting there. It's just like how I mean we done seen guys tear ACL, mcl, pcl, kneecap gone, head exploded off, and still come back and get contracts. So it's just like what's the chances of Jamar Chase, for instance, what's the chances of you just getting hurt and never able to play again? I just don't get it.
Speaker 2:Right. But then, like when you look at your QB and you look at somebody like Joe Burrow, who's I mean we can really kind of say he's injury prone, like sometimes it ain't just about me's like okay, I need to get my money because, hey, he might not be here, there's a chance he can get hurt. And if I don't get my stats and y'all can blame, then y'all can look at my numbers and say, hey, look, you're not worth whatever, whatever burrow went out last year.
Speaker 3:T higgins, like t higgins, had a really down year last year. Yeah, the dude stills franchise, which is good money. He's going to get another contract if we don't franchise him again, like you're going to get it. People, justin Jefferson don't have a quarterback at all. He's the highest paid offensive player.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but quarterback ever yeah. But when you're looking at Justin Jefferson he can say, hey, look, before I got hurt, look what I did. And like same thing kind of with Higgins too. It's like, hey, look, when Joe Burrow is here, when I got a quarterback because it's a dependent position you can say, hey, look, this is what I did. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So I understand. So Jamar Chase isn't going to be able to say, okay, look what I did when I was healthy and still get a contract.
Speaker 2:He could. But I think Jamar Chase can say hey look, this is my time, because look at Jefferson, he got his and CD Lamb got his. I think this is my time.
Speaker 3:They played out their contracts first, and it's Jamar Jefferson.
Speaker 2:I think Jefferson had one more year on here. I think this will be the final year.
Speaker 3:The only difference is they didn't do that option year. They went ahead and gave him a new title.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. He had one more year left.
Speaker 3:Jamar Chase isn't even there yet. This option, year is after this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's like I looked at Jamar Jefferson God what the fuck, jamar Jefferson.
Speaker 3:Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson's contract his rookie contract was four years, $13 million. Jamar Chase's is four years, 30 million. So it's just like dude, just play out at least the four years. If he has the same, nah, I still don't even see it. Even after next year, bro, the option. And then even if they franchise you, that's good money. You're not about to have no career-ending injury. What's the last career-ending injury we saw on the football?
Speaker 2:field. Yeah, I wouldn't even say career ending, but I'm just thinking like, even if you miss a year. So you kind of look at like what happened yeah
Speaker 3:not even really care.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm not. I mean, like you said, career end injuries are super injuries and playing quarterback like yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I mean you kind of, look at the dac prescott is like hey look, we didn't get a deal done and then he ended up getting a season in the industry and then it was like and then what happened? He had to fight to get. He had to fight to get his money. He had to play the last year of the contract. They didn't want. I mean they end up overpaying him. I mean we can all agree on that.
Speaker 2:But then it's like when double the salary for one year. So do you want to get to that point? That's why most of them don't let it get to the fifth-year option, because a lot of the rookie contracts are back-ended you know what I mean. So they try to get it the year before or two years before World got the option.
Speaker 3:I feel like everybody does get the option.
Speaker 2:I just feel like the Vikings were in a position where there was no money tied up anywhere else, so they did say oh well, fuck it, we'll just who they who, but then he also deserves it too.
Speaker 3:I believe I I get that, and I think chase's issue is that he feels like he's underpaid for this year.
Speaker 2:But, bro, your rookie contract, four years, 30 million, bro like but when you look at, when you look, but when you look, I mean that's what happens when you look at other guys who was close to his draft class, like you said, when you get justin jefferson get his and then cd lamb gets his, you're like all right answer me this and then we move on.
Speaker 3:Does jamar chase yes or no? Does jamar chase does not think that he's gonna get that contract eventually?
Speaker 2:I think, yes, he does, but I don't think. But. But why wait when you can get it now? You can't though.
Speaker 3:And clearly the Bengals aren't going to give it to you, like you can't they already did?
Speaker 2:Hey, I think before the end, I think before the end of the season, I think.
Speaker 3:After next season.
Speaker 2:I feel like yeah, but like but if you're going to give it to him eventually, then why not just give it to him now. It doesn't make a big deal.
Speaker 3:It does make a big difference because you're saving money.
Speaker 2:Who are you saving it for?
Speaker 3:If I sign you to a contract to cut my grass, why would I re-up the contract before the contract is over? Like we agreed to you, cut my grass two times a week I mean two times a month for 12 months for $2,500. Why would I say oh yeah, halfway through it, i'ma bump the, i'ma give you five, five thousand dollars for the second half. That's, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's not how business works and it's just like yeah, but if I'm the contract, if you're going to request a new contract before said contract is over, like, yeah, yeah, but if, if, if there's other people on the on the on the street cutting grass too, and your line looks a million times better, and these people are giving me offers and I'm like, okay, well he's not better than uh justin jefferson I mean, I'm just saying I'm just saying I'm just saying. I'm just saying or if I'm as good as the contract, guys.
Speaker 3:I would say as good as.
Speaker 2:yeah, if I'm as good as the top contract guys, the people who have commercials and stuff, and I'm just an independent operator, then I'm saying, okay, well, these guys is getting this money and I'm just as good as them.
Speaker 3:That's another point though I could go next door and get that money. Jamar Jefferson played four years $13 million, so not only are you making more money than him in that same amount of time, so it balances out Based on where you were drafted yes, yeah, like play your spot, Like you got more money than Jamar Jefferson did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then do you run the risk of losing him, Because once the contract I'm just saying once the contract is done, now. I can go into free agency Like do you want to run that risk Because somebody going to throw a stupid?
Speaker 3:bag at him, because you still under contract for two years plus two franchise years. So you like.
Speaker 2:But we had no leverage yeah, but I but you. But do you really want your number one? To get to frank, do you want to be franchising the number one receiver, the?
Speaker 3:bangles will.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, I'm just saying that like it's rare that number ones get to get to franchises.
Speaker 3:that's another thing. They might not even get there. Just play your four years out, take your $21 million for your fifth year and then you probably will get paid. But what you pull in this shit four years before the Bengals technically have to get rid of you? I mean, do I think the Bengals could get another kid out of college that could catch for 1,400 yards? Yes, we see that it's happening over and over and over again. Justin Jefferson, jamar Chase, puka, nakua guys are coming out of college, all pro-ready. They are. That's just the reality in which we live in right now. Guys are coming out of college and they are ready Number 10 for USC. He's going to be a dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but when you look at these dudes who were dogs that come to teams and then are just average, I'm just saying you run a lot of risk.
Speaker 3:Like Marvin Harrison Jr is going to catch for 1,300, 1,400 yards next season. It's guaranteed.
Speaker 2:But who? Maybe he got other issues right now.
Speaker 3:No, I bet a lot of money that he sees At least 12, 10 to 12 touchdowns. That might be pushing maybe 8 touchdowns, but he's for sure going to get 1200 yards. For sure, don't matter if Kyler gets hurt, doesn't matter, he's going to get those yards. Why receivers are coming out of college Ready to be all pro, like don't matter if Kyler gets hurt, whether he stays, doesn't matter, he's going to get those yards. Like wide receivers are coming out of college ready to be all pro out the gate.
Speaker 2:Garrett Wilson. Yeah, but you just but you named, you know, out of 30, out of 32 teams you named five Out of 30 teams you named five Go back through all of the wide receivers that are coming out, that are hooping.
Speaker 3:What I'm saying is that it's possible.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not saying it's not possible, but if you already got a Jamar Chase, like can? You not just lock him in, just like you would lock him in.
Speaker 3:Malik Nabors is going to hoop this year. Bro, Like guys are coming. All I'm saying is guys are coming out of college. You can replace these guys. Guys are coming out of college, ready to ball.
Speaker 2:But for those type of guys you look at like a Hyatt, Like you ain't heard nothing from him, the kid who was he wasn't the man in college like that, like he wasn't a Bolitnikoff Award candidate, like, so that's.
Speaker 3:I mean I get that, but like. And then you got to look at his quarterback situation this year, but like, nobody expect. I'm not saying every wide receiver is coming out, but I'm just saying it's possible they're out there what the fifth, sixth, seventh round? Yeah, he caught well like 1600 last year yeah, but you also, it's also crazy when you pair him with a, you also got a cooper cup.
Speaker 2:On the other side, who cooper?
Speaker 3:Cup was injured a lot of last year. Yeah, I'm just saying that's why they brought in Homeboy. Yeah, that's why he got the opportunity to watch his Cooper Cup was out.
Speaker 2:It's situational, I agree, but I mean, like I said, like you, look at us and how we, like the Colts, have been.