E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
The Future of the Lakers Without LeBron, Football Comebacks, and Revamping the Pro Bowl
Ever wondered if a sports titan like LeBron James could ever become a legacy too heavy for his team to carry? That's what we chew over in our latest heart-pounding episode, where we dissect the Lakers' conundrum and ponder the future sans King James. With a blend of fervent debate and insightful commentary, we navigate through the complexities of maintaining a sports legacy, the economic intricacies of superstar athletes, and the team's strategies for moving forward. We shine a light on players like Reeves, who might just be the beacon of hope the Lakers need, underscoring the essence of leadership and accountability in transforming raw talent into victory on the court.
You'll feel the pulse of the stadium as we recount a football comeback story that's all grit, wit, and a little bit of trick play magic. We don't just stop at the wins and losses; we scrutinize the decisions made in the heat of the moment and the ripple effects of rookie errors. Here, it's about the strategy, the sweat, and the sheer resilience of teams when they're pushed to the brink. Our conversation dances between celebration and critique, as we analyze the defensive woes plaguing teams and how a clear definition of roles could spell the difference between a team's rise or fall.
Finally, we tackle the evolution of the NFL Pro Bowl with the excitement of a rookie and the nostalgia of a seasoned fan. Remember the golden days of the 100-yard dash? We do, and we're all in on discussing the new flag football format and the skill challenges that might just bring back that old-school Pro Bowl thrill. We're not blind to the injury risks these athletes face, but the prospect of witnessing today's stars in heated competition sparks our imagination. So gear up, sports enthusiasts, this episode promises a ringside seat to the raw emotions and strategic genius that define the world of sports.
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Speaker 3:Yo welcome, welcome to another episode of the epic pie cas. We are in the house, full house, today, back with David Ike. Jared, justin is man. He's stretching. Take it care of the fam. You know making that money, man. We can't hate on him. Man, he's still part of the crew. We gonna rep him every episode, whether he here or not. Yes, but Ike is definitely taking shots with his name today.
Speaker 1:Say I'm with the.
Speaker 3:Justin is a flowers got in common man. What they got in common.
Speaker 1:Many both. They both fumble at the wrong time. Z flowers, fumbling real life at the goal one one difference make this.
Speaker 3:Playoffs have been rookies making rookie mistakes at the wrong time, man. It's been a couple of rookies just ain't been doing. They supposed to be doing that. The drama didn't. It's a lot to go into. We'll talk about that in a minute. How was y'all sports weekend, man, jared? Let's start with you, man.
Speaker 4:Again, bro, dormant I ain't. I ain't got no dogs in any fight right now, so I'm just chilling like I mean. It really ain't nothing really eventful going on Um Lakers getting smacked every night. They didn't smack again tonight. Oh, that game last night, man, I'm dude that man, they just. Terrible dog. They're not doing anything good right now.
Speaker 3:What about you, david? You talk about that game last night.
Speaker 4:Man, I was so ups like it's. You know um, one thing man, I love LeBron man, I love his game. I just wish that it just a little bit if he was. You know you know how, like back, like when Kobe, if remember Roger Bell and Kobe back in the day, remember that that little. And then you know Roger being Kobe gets up and kind of go, mm, okay, you know me and get that. Sometimes I won't like LeBron, sometimes can be he like Superman. You know, superman, he's kind of a guy was very quiet, you know me, but sometimes you want that, that Denzel Washington equalizer tight.
Speaker 4:You know, you know, even if you get kicked out or something, get kicked out the game. You know that's like a lot of these coaches do. It's just emotion, just to get the Did the team.
Speaker 3:That was him in Miami, I think. Like when everybody hated him and he went there, they were like oh he the villain, like that was hey, yeah, two MVP's down season down there, but he ain't like it, but he's like alright, I feel, like I feel like his greatest assets also can be his weaknesses sometimes too, because like he's never really been a talker like that, like I mean, he'll talk, he'll talk to the rest.
Speaker 4:Smoke another layup I. I just wonder how many points, how many career points he would have if he didn't miss some in layups. All right, we go we go.
Speaker 3:We go talk about a little later on. Last but not least, I man, you don't even only only team out here still fighting. Yeah good, good, come back, man. Hey, how you feel about that man?
Speaker 1:I mean I told y'all there was those couple things. That was telling for me, right? So Obviously you know I got all the messages one and this is not the first time this has happened, by the way, I almost think was 17, the last time too, 17 boys down first half.
Speaker 1:Everybody is specifically messaging me, that's corn hey they're not even and they're not even Detroit fans. What one of them was and I accept that from he's he was a Detroit fan when they were always 16. I Get from you what everybody else is just mad because and for Rick Jared, some of them are Dallas fans, by the way Just hate, just hate, but no reason. And I'm about the end of the third quarter. I was like, yeah, this, this game's over, and Two things that to me stuck out was If you have to resort to trick plays, you need to confident. The reverse made six because we were a normal play.
Speaker 3:That's not really.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying just in general like that's all made sense because of where we were struggling like cuz, that gets you to the outside. We were struggling with runs to the outside, the Was it the quarterback option or whatever? The, the flea flicker, and then I can't hear. I know you don't know, y'all, y'all, we're looking for something like you. Needed something, a spark. I'm like, yeah, it looks a little desperate to me, so by the end of the third, I was like, yeah, this, this is a wrap.
Speaker 1:They ain't no way that they go come back after we.
Speaker 3:All right, cool then, man, let's, let's, let's, let's jump into these topics real quick. Man, we're gonna start with NBA power rankings right now.
Speaker 2:We know the.
Speaker 3:NFL season is almost over so we got to start transitioning slowly but surely into NBA and March Madness. We don't have some movement. So you got the Clippers. We'll start with number 10. You got Cavaliers. They was 11th last week, the Suns at nine. They was at nine last week. The Knicks jumped up 12 spots to number eight. Yeah, they've been playing good here lately. Timberwolves they dropped down from one to six to seven, so they dropped six spots. The Bucks is they. They're six. They jumped up seven spots. Thunder stayed at five. The seventy-sixers Fell down three spots. The Nuggets jumped up four spots to be number three. You got the Celtics. They was one there at two. And now you got the Clippers. Who was at three does now at one.
Speaker 3:Based on how teams been playing, I think this is pretty accurate. Uh, nick's been playing well, timberwolves having looked like they self as far as how they was in the beginning of the season. Cavaliers is making a huge surge right now, even though they may be talking about trading a spider. Um, I Think the Bucks are the Bucks. They jumped up seven spots, but they probably shouldn't have been out of top ten anyway. Nuggets jumped up four, but again, they're gonna be there in the West and and, like I said, probably the most solid team out the east is the Celtics, and a lot of people talking about the Clippers Looking good enough to win it this year. Man, what's your opinions on these rankings and possibly how they may move forward after the All-Star break? Anybody?
Speaker 4:dive in. I mean, as always, I'm not really a huge stickler of the Power Rankings because I mean they mean absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2:They don't mean anything.
Speaker 4:So I don't really spend too much time critiquing and you know going back and forth about little things, but I mean I think it's cool. I don't see anything that just stands off as crazy, like I don't know what the Timberwolves have been on the past Week or whatever, to make them drop down at seven. I thought they were still at the top of the West, but I ain't really been keeping tabs on it too much, too closely.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at them. I guess, they're not anymore like they had a bad loss and I can't remember who it was this week.
Speaker 4:Cat Cat score 62. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, they lost that game. It's showing that they're still the top of the West. Yeah so I don't know what's going on. They said they had.
Speaker 3:They've had four games Against four to eight worst teams in the league last week and they went two and two barely being Brooklyn and one of those two wins they're still 34 and 14.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is the second best record in the league. So how did that make some seventh? I don't know, but I think it's a weekly thing.
Speaker 3:So I think, like they said, they went two and two last week out of four games and they play Like some of the worst teams and was there and barely one like Is.
Speaker 1:Week to week and sometimes I'm gonna play more games and others.
Speaker 4:I Think it's. I think it's cumulative it. There's no way possible.
Speaker 3:It could be a week to week, like it's just saying what like their rankings changed based on like last week they were, they were number one. They dropped six spots. So then it's just saying why. And they just said last week they went two and two barely escaping Brooklyn and one of those two wins. So they could have won one and three last week and been like against bad.
Speaker 1:The other one was okay, see, which is a Top team in the league.
Speaker 4:So they probably won last night.
Speaker 3:That part will kept them where they was.
Speaker 1:And they and they been to get now scored in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3:They say 181, 1883. Yeah, damn the cask 500, that's crazy. But um yeah, what you think, david, you agree with these power rankings? We think about the Clippers man.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the Clippers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the.
Speaker 4:Clippers Love. You know the Clippers are a very, very good season team. They play very, very well in the season and you know, it's, it's and it's like like this with a lot of teams, man, it's the season right now I think a lot of teams that are not playing well, some of the teams, I would say, are bored. I mean, I don't know what the Lakers are doing. They do, they do this every year, but it, you know, we don't know until until April, man, that's what it's like April 13 and two since Christmas.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, like I said, they play very well this season bro.
Speaker 2:They play very very well.
Speaker 4:I think the thing with the Clippers is they have a team assembled that nobody they can all have off nights and still beat the average team. And if you look at because I look at box scores, the first thing I do when I sit down and work hopefully my boss isn't going to be watching this but the first thing I do when I sit down- is I look?
Speaker 4:at all the games from the night before and I look at like all the stats like just to see what happened, like that's like my warm up, get my brain ready. I look at all the stats and see what everybody did the night before and they're beating guys by 15, 20 points where nobody scores over 22 points. Harden has 14 and 10. Paul George will have like 20. Qwai will have like 21. And then it also changes to like Paul Harden might have 24 and nobody has to drop 30. Nobody has to drop 30. If they all just like getting the 15 to 22 range, they have a chance to beat everybody and I feel like that's going. I feel like that's going to propel them into playoffs.
Speaker 3:Nobody has to say to that Nobody has to be that guy.
Speaker 4:They can all have semi average nights. Oh, and then you got Russ. Russ is contributing his 15, you know whatever, and seven assists off the off the off the bench, like nobody. No one guy has to be that guy on that team and they can still be people. So it's just like you get to the playoffs and you have one of them guys starts going 3035. You get a 40. Point game out of one of those guys. They're going to do some damage to a team.
Speaker 3:And that keeps them fresh too. With all them being in the mid to late 30s, like exactly, that's keeping them fresh too. So that's really going to be key for the playoffs. So now I'm with it, man.
Speaker 4:If they stay healthy, that's the big part. I think that's been the clippers problem really has been held. If they, if they stay healthy, that's going to be the key. But I mean I think they can do it. They just got too much. Ferry power Like this is just too much. They got too much. If they can stay healthy, keep it going. They can beat anybody. Will they beat anybody? That's still left to be determined, but they can.
Speaker 1:I like what you think that boss is being knocked for being in the Eastern Conference, because I mean, I don't know that. I've seen the clip is due enough to be number one versus Boston being number two. Boston is the best record to leave and I think it's about like three or four games.
Speaker 4:It is they only have 11 losses, yeah, so.
Speaker 1:I don't really understand the logic behind any of this power. I can see what they mean.
Speaker 3:Well, they just. I think it's only because the clippers just beat them this weekend and it was like their second worst home loss of the season. So I think that may be the because they went one and two. They just.
Speaker 1:And they still got four games on them. I'm just, I'm just a little lost.
Speaker 3:That's what the screen says.
Speaker 1:I got to yell at somebody.
Speaker 3:I know, I'm just trying to get you some, you know, just you know, a little backlog on what you know, what they say. But anyway, man, let's let's yeah. Yeah, I can see it in your face. All right, man, is it time for the Lakers to move on from LeBron man? This is something we was kind of talking about in our chat. That's wild segue.
Speaker 4:But that's wild. Hey, that's a wild.
Speaker 1:He went from LA to LA man.
Speaker 3:That's crazy Um.
Speaker 2:What do you think, oh?
Speaker 3:no Cool, we're off. I think we're more fans of LeBron than I get. I know Ike likes LeBron you don't hate LeBron but I think we'll have more to say. Do you think the Lakers should move on from LeBron, ike?
Speaker 1:In particular. That's a really tough thing to say yes to Right, like how do you move on from a player of that magnitude? Now it don't seem to be working. I almost feel like they're keeping him partially because he's still putting butts in seats. So I mean you're still making money off of him at this point?
Speaker 1:I don't know that it's for the whole hope of having him and Brownie on the same team, which to me would just be a money grab as well at this point. If you move on, if you were to move on from LeBron, what are you going to get from him? And what does move on mean? Are you trading him?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Are you like all right, we've done. When your contract is up, like what does that mean exactly? I think, if you are going to say, hey, we should consider moving on from LeBron you've got to get something back for him.
Speaker 1:So, like you've traded how many first round picks and know the last couple of years, you've got to get some kind of return on that investment if you're going to make that decision. And no matter what they've done over the last two and a half three years, it ain't worked and it don't seem to be getting better. They're in the same position now that they were in last year, except for the defense somehow seems worse. I don't know how that was possible. I seen you say something about shooting practice. I was like, yeah, like anybody.
Speaker 4:They don't defend anything.
Speaker 1:like they don't defend, like I've never seen a group of people play the Madadur defense so well. Man, it's almost like hey, here, go ahead. Oh, like so Shit is a time you get really close, I think, because if you don't get something from what you got, like what's what's after the bron, like you At least start you at least got start thinking about the post the brown era, absolutely, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1:I don't know that they they seem like the like the pre-age of destination that they used to be. So I don't even know if you can say, hey, we got money that somebody just gonna somebody who was going to because LA is a championship town you could get. Can you get a star? Yes, Are you gonna get a star that's going to drive your team to a ship? That may not necessarily mean the case, but you've got to start playing something, whether it's trading to get something back, but Something needs to be done to be prepared for when he's not there. But I can't say just move on from that.
Speaker 1:That sounds like a lot. It's a big thing to say.
Speaker 3:All right, David, what you think.
Speaker 4:I think they got the talent man. It's just effort, just effort. You know, just with the trade, with the trade, that line going on and all the rumors of you know the Angela Russell Getting rid of Daniel Russell, and then you go, you see he comes out. I mean what seven games you scored over 30 points or close to you know, I think he had one game. It was like once 29, I believe, 37, 33 here. I Just think it's effort.
Speaker 4:I Mean we've seen what happened in the bubble, we've seen that, what they did to Indiana and stopping Tyree's how a burden. You know, I mean having a scheme, it's just. There's just no leadership. You know, in the circle there's nobody getting mad, hey, you got to do this. You know you look at, yeah, when you get back to my home, you know, hey, we got to do this. You know there's no point in the fingers. Hey, you know a. You know, hey, you need to do this or do that. It's just out there playing LA fitness ball man and it's. You know, like I said, they, they are ready were this time last year and they made the Western Conference finals. Now they got swept, but I didn't think they gonna make it that far.
Speaker 3:You know that was a huge surprise.
Speaker 4:But it's like it's one of these there where you know LeBron is kind of just doing his thing, probably to, and you know they must know. Okay, this is where we need to be to get the playoffs. I don't know they know it better than we do, but I I think it's effort, man. Okay, this team, this team, was better than the championship team. Both team me definitely more talent, for sure. How, the more talented you know you got. You got more shooters, you got wing players, you got yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean you, I mean it's there, they just it's just. They can beat anybody too, I feel. You know, but it's it's effort it comes down to. Everybody's got to be accountable for what they do. You got to have a role but then you got. You got a. You know Garvin hams gotta have his his best eight guys on the floor. You know, real in rotation, pick your best eight guys. You know now you might have some guys that might sprinkle in there. You know, when it comes to matchups here and there, but you got, pick your best seven eight guys, man, and stick with that. Okay, we're coming in and out of rotation like hot. You move these by one of my favorite players on the Lakers man, mm-hmm. You know he's, he's strong, he's, he's athletic. You know me, he got a nice jump. You know, I feel like he's like a smaller quiet In a way. You know you get in the paint, he can score. I mean he can read that. You did that. The same little flat jumper. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Like you got those little word there but like they shot just do look damn near identical, you know what I'm saying so I just feel like you know and I don't you know, gabe Minton's been out, but I've seen, you know, a Javanna Bill score. I've seen it, man, we've seen them. Ooh, I've seen a while. Okay, okay, lakers, okay, I see you, you know, but you know, but when you got, but, like I said, that's why sometimes I say about LeBron, you know, like like the little the play yesterday when Dylan Brooks hit him and he fell on the ground, I understand that you're trying to get the same calls, like you know, like everybody you know, to try to let you get him out the game. Man, after that man, you know what I mean Get up and hit you know, what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:Ooh, you know what I mean. I'm gonna dump him.
Speaker 3:You don't have to hit him back.
Speaker 4:You have you, you give you him. Let him have that type of firepower If LeBron comes down there and they may, I don't know, maybe you know. I ain't saying he got to be Draymond, but that's why Draymond does what he does. Now it ain't doing, it's not effective anymore, but it just gets your team round up man, it gets okay. You know, get like Jared Vanderbilt. I like what he did. You know he pushed him back, he got dejected. But you know what I'm saying. It's just, I don't know man, I just it. We, just we just everybody got to be accountable. Just need some firepower, man, but they have a team.
Speaker 3:They have a team. What about you, jared man? I know you you kind of proposed the question, so I will let you go All right.
Speaker 4:So to answer the question should they move on from LeBron? That's kind of that's phrased kind of wild. Fortunately and unfortunately, depending on which direction you look look you, you know you're looking at it LeBron controls this. Lebron is going to beat her as long as he wants to be here. At this point and after what LeBron's done for the Lakers, the league, his career, like I said, fortunately and unfortunately for some situations, he's got control. So they're not going to trade them unless he says I want to be traded and like, if he wants to keep resigning, they're going to keep giving off on them contracts. I mean, I feel like he's earned that. So that's moving on from them is not anything. That's that's going to be realistic.
Speaker 4:But, like I said earlier, the Lakers need to move on from the Lakers. Whatever they're doing this, this, whatever they're doing or not doing as far as coaching front office, they need to get out of their their their own way, because they have no draft capital. They have this coach who's just a walking dummy on the sideline. You keep making these same transactions and then at the end, at all star break, you're 500 and you're looking for trades. Like, at what point do you say, maybe it's not the personnel that we have, maybe it's something deeper. I think the Lakers franchise is just in shambles right now. I don't know who's running the show. I don't know who's I guess Rob Polinka. He's doing a terrible job at enforcing and making them play well because, like Dave said, it's all effort. I mean you could watch the game. You can see things like for one, I watched one play last night. It was Terrian Prince and it was Austin Reeves. They were guarding two guys but they were switching the guys from who? They played the Houston Rockets. They, the guys, like switched, they switched and then the Lakers were clearly switching. So Austin Reeves makes the switch and then Terrian Prince just stands there Like he like glitches. It was like watching a video game, Like he looked at the switch and he just stood there and then by the time he reacted. The guy is always buying a layup. It's just like.
Speaker 4:Do y'all talk about defense or strategies in practice? I don't think they practice either. That's something evident. Like I'm the one that like looks closely at, like it's more to it than just the shots that they're taking. Like what are those shots that you're taking? What do they look like? And it's like when they're in a paint and they're doing different kinds of moves, it's like they'll throw the ball up. It's like, bro, you clearly haven't practiced that shot. Like you look like you just rolled out of bed, came to the court and just hooping, like you clearly haven't worked on anything. So they don't practice, but just effort. I mean, the defense of effort is the worst shit that I've ever seen and it's been like that for years. This isn't anything that's new. It's not new last year, it's not new this year. It wasn't even new the year before last. Like it's.
Speaker 4:They just don't play good team defense and I mean it was the same way regardless of who the coach is. So I mean I can't even really name one on the coach. My thing with the coach is how can you let this continue, even if it is them? How can you say that you're a coach of a team and just let your team, night in and night out, go out and perform lackluster like this on the defense end, and it's like it's just a few things. It's like when the team is on a 10-0 run against you, why are y'all still taking one-on-one threes with guys that clearly don't practice these shots? We don't need Turing and Prince doing an ISO for a pull-up three. That's not his game. Stop taking threes. It's like they have nothing to go towards the basket. At no point does the coach say, hey, we need a bucket, we gotta get something in the paint. Guys still just jacking up threes. I mean it's just like, it's just no effort. So I mean I don't know what they need to do to keep trading draft picks away.
Speaker 4:That's not the answer, because LeBron ain't gonna be there for long. Like he don't. He realistically just doesn't have that much time left. So they at some point they need to start planning for the future. I mean I don't know if AD is their future. I don't know if he even wants to be a future of anybody. Like I'm just not sure. I do think that they can get any superstar that they want. So when they do move, when LeBron moves on or whatever you notice I said LeBron moves on and not like it's moving on from LeBron.
Speaker 4:When he moves on, when he decides that, okay, I either want to go somewhere else or I'm done, they won't have a problem getting a superstar in there. I can see a Jason Tatum going to LA. I can see a John Marek going to LA. I feel like LA is can get anybody. Like if Carl Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards just both said, hey, we want to go to, I can realistically see that. So I don't think they're going to have a problem getting a new star in there, cause I mean they've had. They've had a star. I don't remember the last time when Lakers didn't have a star. I can't call it. I mean they've probably had a star every year since the 70s. So I don't think that'll be an issue.
Speaker 4:But I mean Lakers, at some point they got to start figuring out what it is. And if this is the effort this team is going to get, just let them move. Stop making trades, stop trading where your capital trying to improve a team that clearly, just like David said, they got the talent, they got the players, which is not giving effort, I would just stop making trades. Stop making trades, just I don't. I don't even know what to do and it's just like I'm gonna say this last thing and then I'm gonna, I'm gonna, we can move on. But I Think another thing that, like this problem is, is that nobody has a role like really hatch more is a talent.
Speaker 2:What is his?
Speaker 4:role like what. What is he supposed to give every night? Yeah, what are you asking of?
Speaker 3:him night.
Speaker 4:What is read supposed to? What are you expecting from Reeves every night? Because it's all over the place and I'm not even saying that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it's just like nobody has a niche. Vanderbilt, what are you supposed to do? What do we need from you, turian Prince? What is your job like? What do you contribute to this team every night? It don't even have to be a tangible thing, you don't have to be points, it only had to be rebounds. What is your role? And another thing lack of accountability. No body's holding anybody accountable. Like, why is this guy not being berated for giving up this layup? Like, why is Alfredin Segoon given AD 31 and 15? Like, what in what world is that? Okay, but it just happens night in and night out. No accountability, nobody has a role. It's just guys out there playing, and even with with, with the, with D'Angelo Russell's Look, you know resurgence as a play. Is Anybody telling him that that's what they need from D'Angelo Russell, or is he just out there playing pick up ball and not trying to get Traded? We don't know. So until they answer some of those questions, what they haven't since the bubble, it's just gonna be the same shit.
Speaker 4:I just want to say this last part, when he talked about People's roles. But I mean some of the, the players that the the Lakers have had. I mean you look at KCP or Denver. He has a role, he does. You know what his role is, you know that's why he's shooting better. He's playing as a. He's playing a. He's a better player as a different nugget than he was a Laker. I mean Russell Resbrook, yeah, I mean coming off the bench, but maybe that was something that I mean. There was points where they did they did do that for the Lakers, but look what his role is and he's playing better. He's he's.
Speaker 3:He fits in that role and I really coming off the phone.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and lastly, malik Beasley dude was terrible with the Lakers terrible. I mean couldn't, couldn't buy a basket, but look what he's doing with the Bucks. He's got a role, you know me, he's got a role and but that's.
Speaker 3:But I believe that that is coaching, that is, it's different schemes like you said, coaching is buy-in, because just because you give somebody a role, they got a buy-in to that role.
Speaker 4:Well, they got a different. They definitely got a buy-in, but the thing about it is you still have to. You can't keep changing up the the Like I said, you got your best eight guys. You know me Practice every day and that was my job is to make me perform. I bet I could tell you the top eight guys. Well, that's you know, that's all you have to do.
Speaker 3:That's why you got assistant coaches.
Speaker 4:All right, that's, that's your job is to know which eight guys or which combination of guys Can you get the best from. And he hasn't vocal, had no idea. This guy doesn't know, they just, they just have no idea. And this is like until you figure that out, you're not gonna succeed.
Speaker 3:I agree with that. Everything I've been saying is spot-on. I feel like just from the couple games I've watched, it's been, it's the biggest thing. It's effort and you're not gonna get effort unless you get buy-in. And people are not gonna buy in until you define they rose and none of that's gonna hold people accountable. Yeah. Yeah, there's a count. You know, count building. So all of that mixed into the pot is what you get with the Lakers. But again, like we've been saying, they was at this point this time last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they still make that right.
Speaker 3:And then they they had a surge in the second half of the season. They made the playoffs, made to the Western Conference finals, got swept Um, but I mean nobody like like we said nobody expected that, so who knows? I mean you may not have to make a move. I mean you, first off you can't make a move. We really don't have anything to really make a move with, unless somebody's gonna give you a whole lot of something for a little bit of nothing.
Speaker 2:Right cuz. That's all you got.
Speaker 3:Unless it's a bad contract, that somebody's trying to dump a one-year left and you know the player don't want to resign. Whatever you may get lucky on that, but Outside of anything significant, there's gonna change our round. I don't believe I said I think it starts with them and who want to come there? I mean outside of playing with LeBron, like who wants to come there on a team where you can see that the, the buy-in isn't there, the effort isn't there, like nobody wants to come there, just because, like Most of the time at the trade, that line is usually contenders just moving, just making moves, because you know, hey, they like, hey, we wanted two pieces away. We just need such as such. We need somebody who can do this. We need somebody who can really handle this role in the playoffs because we can see which way our team is headed. So, but is it time for the Lakers move on from LeBron? I guess? Getting back to the, to the question, I'm gonna say no, just because, like I said also, lebron's earned it. He'll leave when he want to leave. He could stay as long as he wants, long as he's producing, which clearly he is. Even though it's maybe on a bad team, he's producing and he's still one of top players in the league. Whichever, whichever number you want to put him at, he's still top 10. So I think that is what it is Moving right along man jumping to the NFL man.
Speaker 3:We got a couple topics. First off, we got the Pro Bowl coming up this weekend and I know this is something we've been talking about for the past couple years, like how can we improve this Pro Bowl? Now they're changing the flag football. They don't. They got a few skilled things here and there. But something interesting came across my timeline on Facebook. They were showing the 100 meter dash from I think it was 1995. I want to say, um, when they used to have a hundred yard dash race to see who's the fastest in the league and it was like Elimination style and it came down to like Rod Woodson and Darryl Green and it was crazy. Like, imagine that now. Um, imagine that now being like Having, like the Miami Dolphins do, like a four by one or something along those lines. Like what do you think people be complaining about?
Speaker 4:getting hurt that doing that too. Yeah, but guys know you got like they can't take a shit that I'm getting hurt. So it's always, you know, I'm saying like it's always. Oh, before pull my hamstring, it's always something, like it's always gonna be something. I agree with that, I agree.
Speaker 3:But still like. Do you think that's?