E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
Episode 44
Hey sports fans, ever wondered what it's like when the unexpected underdog rises to the challenge in the NBA? Well, we've got the scoop on the Oklahoma City Thunder's electrifying climb up the power rankings, and let me tell you, it's a story worth listening to. But that's not all – steady performers like the Boston Celtics and Denver Nuggets are also on our radar. We're dissecting what it takes to stay on top in the league, from player injuries to the unquantifiable magic of team chemistry, and we're placing our bets on who will still be standing tall as we cruise into the second half of the season.
Picture this: the Philadelphia 76ers hitting their stride post-All-Star break and Zion Williamson's health throwing a curveball in the New Orleans Pelicans' flight path. We're turning the heat up with a fiery debate on the NBA Play-in Tournament and the tantalizing possibility of financial incentives giving players and teams that extra push. We've also got the lowdown on Jim Harbaugh's future with the Michigan Wolverines, and we're throwing in our two cents on NCAA coaches leaping to the NFL – it's a conversation that's as heated as a rivalry game!
And because we love keeping things interesting, let's not forget the NFL MVP race – is Lamar Jackson sprinting ahead, or does Christian McCaffrey's versatility give him the edge? We're making bold predictions on playoff matchups, including whether C.J. Stroud has what it takes to lead the Browns to glory. To top it off, I'll share a hair-raising tale about my wife's feline fiasco that's sure to get your whiskers twitching. Trust me, with special guests joining the fray during March Madness, you won't want to miss a minute of our sports talk extravaganza.
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Speaker 2:Yo yo yo. Episode of the epic podcast. Man, we are finally back. We had a lot of stuff going on holidays and everything else. We're back in the house with me, of course, my two guys, ike, jared, man, it's been forever.
Speaker 2:But that PTO was getting crazy man like man, it's 2024, so I guess Merry Christmas, happy New Year, congratulations to the playoff teams, congratulations to Michigan, like it's so much that they're happy that we were just not here for but life be life in, as they say. And then life is more important than this, our hobby, but we love doing it, so we're fighting to keep coming to y'all.
Speaker 3:but um, how's y'all been man how you had Jared start with you man, how you been man. I'm chilling man. You know I can't tell you nothing that's been going on cuz I got a terrible memory. But yeah, I just been killing bro, jaws been killing me, but other than that, just Kicking in with the family, you know, just doing the regular stuff. Nothing too crazy, nothing too extra.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay what about you, ike man, what's? What's? What's up in up outside of that, what's been up bro, personally.
Speaker 4:I'm alive. Yeah, you're all I got for you at this point they're maintaining and waking up so far and that's important and that's important. I count my blessings.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, solid, solid, solid man, let's jump into this man. We don't really in here for a long time before a good time, so let's get up in here One time.
Speaker 2:We're gonna start with the NBA man, just real quick, new year. So right now we got power rankings. I just wanted to get these out the way, kind of let y'all know we forgot about the NBA, but the NFL season is drawn to a close, so we're gonna be giving a heavy dose of the NBA. Right now. We got okay, see, with a 23 and 11 is number one. Let me start backwards.
Speaker 2:You got the New York Knits at 21 and 15. At number 10. You got Indiana at 20 and 15, which may change because we don't know Tyrese getting injured, it's gonna be hard to Feel that position. Milwaukee 25 and 11. Dame hasn't really been playing that much, so who knows how that's gonna go. Philly 23 and 12. They gonna be a riser, I believe. Definitely after the all-star break. I think they're gonna be playing a lot better. Move oil in a surprise only 22 and 15. Number six position always got the potential if Zion can stay healthy. But again, who knows? The Clippers, after that horrible start, after the James Harden trade, I think they don't ran off like seven straight. Okay, we'll shoot clothes when they've been playing good ball.
Speaker 2:23 and he got Minnesota, who was number one in the league for a long time, at 25 and 10, as far as they record, they are number one, but it's playing good ball. They had number four. You got Denver, of course, as long as yoke and where he's healthy, they're always gonna be in the top with 26 and 12. Boston at 28 and 7, playing good Ball, very, very good ball. They're gonna be a tough out in the East. And then again, okay, see, at 23 and 11. Man, those young boys, they put those draft picks to use and coming together as a cohesive team, and so it was good to see them. Finally, I'm gonna talk about it. Okay, see, after a long time of them just being horrible, but anything to say about these records, man, any, I can start with you. Man, any anybody you think don't deserve to be here, or somebody who does deserve to be up here.
Speaker 4:I Don't know if there's anybody who doesn't I would say the most surprising thing. I mean just, I won't say surprising, because they they did show you know when they actually know made the way into what they make them into the playing game. Okay, see last year, yeah, so I mean they definitely showed that they Were gonna overachieve. I didn't know that they'd be this good this early. I mean I figured they would build a point last year, but I Mean that there's not really anything else. I see here that is really that much Of a surprise. No, at this point I mean I'm also saying that I'm also you're gonna see the same teams at the end of the year. You'll see Boston, you're gonna see Denver, I mean.
Speaker 4:So there's always like a random, like surprise team, I think, for they be a every year. Mean, no, sacramento was kind of one of those teams last year and Maybe it's okay. See this year. I mean we're almost to the halfway point. Most teams are about 19 games away from About halfway through their season at this point. So at this point you can say you at least know or have an idea of who's what and how they're gonna play, but nothing changes when the end of the season comes. So, like all of this is no hearsay and Just food for thought, but we'll see who's there when playoffs go.
Speaker 2:Okay, what about you German? Anybody you think should be in or Shouldn't be in, as you see?
Speaker 3:as right now. I feel like everybody that's in the top 10 currently should be in. I don't know how or why. Okay, see is number one. Just for the sheer fact that they lost to the Lakers, they should be pumped down the four or five just based on that game alone. Who? Oh yeah, that was crazy too. I don't know what Cuz the Lakers stink. I'm sorry they stink, but the Lakers aren't in this top 10. We're not gonna talk about the Lakers right now, but I would I would not okay, see down to maybe three or four and then slide maybe Boston up to one, maybe put Minnesota 10, and but I mean, you know that's Neither here nor there. So, like, I'm cool with how it is. But if I was to make a change, I probably do that I probably put Boston in Minnesota one and two, and then I probably put Denver and then, okay, see it.
Speaker 2:Okay so.
Speaker 4:I'll go ahead. I I will say I I'm very curious as of the criteria because I mean I did look looking at Glad.
Speaker 2:You said that like Is two versus okay, see, Okay, see, was two last week, so and I think they may be doing it just makes, I don't know, like that could be. It too. They're like fourth, the office of rating seventh and defensive rating, I guess net rating, I don't know what that means, but pace isn't? They number six, and but you got Boston at number two in offense, number two in defense, so I really don't see how they drop down. Exactly, yeah, and Denver was four last week. They jumped up to three. Minnesota was three last week, they dropped down to four. So I don't know. Clippers stay steady at five. So Pelicans was nice, they jumped up to six. So I Don't know what they're really. Maybe who they played and you know Well who they lost to could possibly play, because Boston did lose to Indiana, though.
Speaker 3:So here recently, didn't? Tatum didn't play Halliburke guy? Yeah, not the last day I was there, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm thinking because they just play recently. Well, it was almost back to back, almost here they played Saturday Boston one.
Speaker 3:Okay and then Monday Tatum didn't play in the Pacers one.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, maybe I was thinking about the other game. Like I said, I knew it was like two games, like very close proximity.
Speaker 4:So Go ahead. I just looking back, since you know I Got a kill for saying that most teams didn't care about the incident tournament. I Just want to ask you I was looking back now Do y'all? I feel like teams actually cared at this point, because I feel like teams a lot of the teams who Didn't make it anywhere in it or playing a lot harder now than they were At that point.
Speaker 3:I'll start off where internet. I think the. I think people care, but I think the strategy to get there was kind of skewed because the teams with the best records in the NBA didn't even make the final four. Like well, some of them didn't make the. You know the knockout, the knockout stages. So I think I think people care but, like and I spoke to this before I think they need to readjust how they selected teams to go into it because, like you know, you got your best teams in the league that might have lost one.
Speaker 3:You know playing game and you got, like some shaky team that just so happened to win all four there. You know playing, you know they're there, what do they call it? Group stage games or whatever, so they were able to advance in the teams. That's actually really killing it every night against the entire league didn't make it. So you know I. I think they need to do a better job at selecting, but I think every team would have wanted to win it. If you know they, they had it made it. But I was so disappointed to see like there wasn't a okc and okc was good. There was no Minnesota. Minnesota was killing. So I don't know. I think that it's got. The results are kind of skewed, but I think people did want it. They want that money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. Same way, I Think, when it got closer to the championship, they, they played harder and better and like say, even though it wasn't a lot of money, like it was some more money, like he, and if nothing motivates people's money, even though they're making, you know a lot of players 11 more times more than that Again like there's some people in the roster who ain't.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, yeah. So but again, like now, you kind of heading into the all-star break where everybody kind of like Combs down a little bit because they know the break is coming, and kind of cruising into the all-star break because everybody know you need really your momentum and to be playing your best ball after the all-star break, after the trade deadline, you know, I mean with the roster's kind of lock in, that's when you really want to be playing your best ball. So, yeah, that's what I think.
Speaker 3:Yes, thanks, I agree with that.
Speaker 4:I was just curious.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 4:Still don't think that every team cared. I think the teams who care most of the ones who made it.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't. I. I mean, how do we tell, though, like how we tell that's true, cuz some of the best teams didn't make it? So it's just like I'm not saying, I'm not even gonna say as far as I don't don't agree with you or disagree, or agree with you whatever, but I just think that they need to fix the way the teams are selected. If we get the four best teams with the best records in the play in tournament like that would just be a better product, and that's the issue to be about.
Speaker 4:It is like there's no way at least for the way that they did it to say okay, the four best teams are the ones that are making it seem like Interested teams are the ones that made it and I'm just, I'm judging that by looking at the teams play At that point versus teams playing now and there are some of the teams who were.
Speaker 4:If they're playing the way that they're playing now, they were playing that way at that point. I think it would have been a lot more competitive and then you would have a better. I mean, it worked for what the NBA wanted. I mean, people watched it. I obviously watched it, though, so viewership was definitely up on it, and I just I want to see improvements on I'm what you did. I do want to see some improvements on it. You know they're gonna continue to have it.
Speaker 2:I think that's we can a little bit Okay so we talked about this like off-camera and group chats and stuff like that, like about this and what those improvements could be. Me personally I think that there should be. If you're gonna do East and West, kind of do like what baseball does, which is make, put playoffs, homecourt advantage on the line, like yeah and the finals, on top of putting more money into it. I mean half a million, yes, that's a lot of money, but to players who make it a lot more, if you get put out, it's kind of like all right, cool, like I lost that on that money. Whatever, like your stars and the people who are gonna be carrying these teams through these tournaments, or kind of a shoulder shrug. You probably got your guys on the back end of the bench who really cares more, because that's probably double their salary trippery that they salary. But I say, if you put, if you want your stars to truly, truly invest and even from a Fan standpoint to really reinvest, then I think you do a baseball doing.
Speaker 3:Put Homecourt advantage in as a as a bonus either in that or the all-star game, I would say.
Speaker 2:Because baseball doing an all-star game, but I mean maybe bump the money up in the tournament and maybe put it at, you know I don't know, five million, this method for the NBA to give to T. You know I mean one team, five million to maybe give the losers a million. You know what I mean. Like, you know, like maybe the final four gets the the teams to lose, get the other two teams to lose, get you know 250.
Speaker 2:Like something for your effort to make you play harder, and you know what I mean to I want to say they did.
Speaker 3:I think the people who made the final four got like a hundred or two hundred K. I would like that somewhere I could. I could be wrong, but yeah, I think they got like one to one or two and then the runner-up got 300,000. So they didn't go home without nothing, they got 300,000. I believe I'd have to fact check this, but I believe that's how I went.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think they're hand on the right Right way with it. But again, like you said, just some tweaks, you know what I mean, and just make it more. If you want the players to go hard and, like you said, you want these top teams in there, like you got to give them some to fight for as competitors.
Speaker 4:Kind of replacing the At this point, month or so, so not necessarily Maybe the before, like when the all-star game is usually gonna be, because you still want to get those players those breaks. So they go into like that all with something that means a little bit more Right and plus that kind of kicks them into the second half of the season. So I think I think one, it was a little bit too early, because at that point you still have teams, we have chemistry issues still trying to figure each other out.
Speaker 4:So you gotta push it back to where you have a little bit less of you have more camaraderie. You say you have less team chemistry issues. Give it also we can. They do it, bounce out there, we can. Anyway, I'm trying to get to tell and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I gotta run, you know.
Speaker 3:I can't go with, because I actually still like, also like it, because I'm still, I'm still entertained by granted it's not really competitive, but just to see the guys, you know, you know I'm saying like I it's still entertaining for me, but I think maybe, maybe, if they play like the semi finals for the Playing tournament on the Tuesday before played the finals on that Thursday and then started all-star weekend Friday, maybe that's something that they can look into, because what with the league?
Speaker 2:But then the teams who are playing the guy all-stars on. This is gonna be like dang, like we just got everybody else ahead time up, but we don't win.
Speaker 3:Yeah, check this out, though I I I ain't even finished the thought yet what they can do, because the week that the play-in tournament semi finals and the finals happen, the rest of the teams had open schedules. So when you didn't make that final for they didn't say okay for this week, you go here, you go here, you go here, you go here. They can do that same thing for that that week. If you don't make that final, for during that week leading up to the all-star weekend, you still got to play. Give them that time after. Give them till what? Thursday or Friday after all-star break, then you got something.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, that makes us then okay.
Speaker 3:You know that would be the way I tweak it, so nobody.
Speaker 2:And just make it part and just no and make it part of the all-star weekend. Yeah, I agree, I agree, that makes us too. You got to just give them more to fight for To make it, like you said, to make it competitive. I don't think the play-in tournament one competitive. I don't want to say that because it was, I believe. But you want to give them more to To fight for and make the other teams want to play to it, like said, not really feel like, well, we didn't make it, oh well, so right, I agree on both ends.
Speaker 2:It should be more.
Speaker 3:I think they'll tweak it, they'll figure it out, they'll get something a little bit better. But for how they set it up just this first year, I'm rolling we can run it back.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, with that being said, let's jump over to a little college football. We're gonna make this real quick, and Jim Hall ball first off. First congratulations to the Wolverines. Not a hater, not a fan, but not a hater, jim Harbaugh. Do you think he's gonna stare or go? And I want to start with Jared first, because I know Ike probably has a little more to say about John Harbaugh, with him being a coach before. So what do you think? I Jared?
Speaker 3:is a question Do I think or do I shitty Okay?
Speaker 2:let's say should he to you?
Speaker 3:Probably yes, because I feel like the NCAA is gonna end up Disciplining them in some kind of way, shape or form. It would have been nice. As an Ohio State fan, it would have been nice to see that discipline come, you know, before they were able to take it off. But no shade. Like I always tell people, I'm a football fan first, I'm a fan of a team second. So good football is always gonna take presidents, president, you know, a hundred percent of the time with me. So shout out to them like no, no, I don't feel anything about it, but I Do think that he does not want that, that that issue and there are some good NFL coaching jobs available.
Speaker 3:So that's another thing. I mean, playing in Nashville ain't all that bad they getting ready to get a new stadium. You got some young guys that there's no real pressure to come in and win. Then you got the Chargers job. That's open. I mean there's a little bit pressure but you have a. You have a franchise quarterback, you have some pieces, you got a pretty good offense, you got a pretty good defense. Maybe the reason why they didn't, you know, live up to expectation this year is because of coaching. So that's a pretty decent job. Atlanta is open. That's a. That's a decent job. So I mean there are some decent.
Speaker 3:It's not like you're just dealing with the. You know, oh well, you got the jets not this year's jets, but like prior, you got the jets, the Giants and the bears to choose from. You got some pretty good destinations to choose from if you want to take that leap into, you know, the NFL. So should he Can access. I can't. Can't say that he should what. He benefit from it? Yeah, do I think he will? Yes, I'll say yes, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't, but I think you will.
Speaker 2:Okay, what about you? Like what you think?
Speaker 4:Do I think he will. No, I Said it because I mean he's everything in Michigan right now and you've brought them an essence of ship at this point. So I mean he set himself up to be Nick, say. I mean not gonna get as many ships, but he's at least set himself up for that type of tenure. Do I think he should? Yeah, because all the he don't stop getting in trouble. I think he's gonna get in trouble like every other year at this point.
Speaker 4:And I mean, you know, I honestly this this is partially me being a little biased because I want to see one other side. So you guys, that's busted for leaving us in the first place, but I would actually like to see them take that see-hawks job. Hey, and I mean, think about what Pete Carroll got there. What happened with Pete Carroll got there, the big guy in trouble. It's like that Well, deuces, we take this NFL job. So obviously the Seahawks don't have no quarrels with taking somebody who just has some kind of issue going on. No, they see the way level. But I mean I look, he ain't gonna stop. I don't care if you see cheating that recruit angle. Stop doing whatever he's been doing to get these recruits. And if it's cheating, I mean he's gonna continue to do it. If it a depends on what still inside, still inside you can say well, you know, everybody does it, but everybody get caught.
Speaker 1:I mean, like you said, he just won a national championship.
Speaker 4:He's on top. I mean go to NFL. If you don't try, you can come back to NCAA.
Speaker 3:Just like Nick Saban, nick Saban didn't really get popping for real until he came back from the NFL. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He was mediocre, like.
Speaker 3:Then he was in NFL, got killed, came back in one six, so like our ball was already successful in it. Yeah, you know some championships, and this is Anderson and that's a good phone. Yeah, yeah, that's why I want to live. Did he get fired?
Speaker 4:No, he did not get fired. I do think he ruined our last season. I think the last season he was there was a 8-8 at the time, and I say that because he was there, I think the last year when I mixed the whole no cap and a kneeling thing or whatever. But about that our strong suit, like it's been for years, was running the ball and for whatever reason he went completely away from the run and kind of tried to make Capricorn Nick this passing QB. That I don't think Made us like we went away from everything and made it successful the three years prior to that, basically yeah. And then he was like I won a Michigan. I mean, he did go school there. It totally made sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it all made sense. He was 40 down to 22 in the league. Oh yeah, he out of there. I totally forgot about that, yeah and I think so too.
Speaker 2:It's like, okay, you did what you set out to do, which was, yeah, you know, bring Michigan back to the promise lane. You did that. So I just think I think now, like, okay, cool, you are, you accomplish that challenge, like, but like Only three. I mean, your brother got a championship like, so To the only way to have him is to have a national championship and a Super Bowl trophy, like because they're not on the same playing field. Like a national championship is great, but anybody who has a national championship would trade that for a Super Bowl easily, I believe, as a coach or a player or anything else. So I say you go back. Like you said he was successful, go back.
Speaker 2:And I think that charger job is probably the most enticing, because I don't know if there's a lot of work you have to do right off the back. Like you said, a franchise quarterback, you're still gonna have a decent draft pick this year. You can get rid of a lot of baggage there for his bad contracts and things of that nature. It kind of bring in some young talent and and you're in a good market. You know what I mean. Yeah, so I think that may be the best situation unless, like New England come up, or you know what I mean. Like who knows what's gonna go on there. Tennessee you're gonna have to do a lot of work. In Tennessee. You got to revamp that roster. You're gonna lose Tannehill. You're gonna lose Henry Hopkins. You're not gonna have, you're gonna be gutted. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So you gonna be really good sometimes. That sometimes will take the price. Oh that's looking to go in somewhere where there's no pressure. You've got at least three years guaranteed, because ain't nothing there.
Speaker 4:I mean, I would take that job yeah.
Speaker 3:If you're going to go in. There's not set, but I would take that to Tennessee job.
Speaker 4:What it is before. Harbaugh was Frank Gore. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which is not a bad thing, but I understand what you said.
Speaker 4:We didn't have nothing else, though I mean I think Pat Will was still pretty young, went in line back and he ended up being so. I mean he had some developing pieces but nobody knew anybody I mean obviously except for me because I was a fan, but I mean nobody especially that first year, nobody expected anything out of that franchise. So I mean he's done it before. He knows how to revamp a franchise if he needs to. Now how much stress that's going to bring to him. It's probably a lot less stressful to go somewhere where there's much more of a established team but there's also much higher expectations. But I mean he was just one of the highest expectations that you could have in the coaching position, whether it be college or.
Speaker 2:NFL, but also with that too, you look at ownership, gm, the relationships there, because you definitely don't want to go somewhere like Carolina where your owner is overseeing everything and you don't really kind of have that freedom or that wiggle room to build, because the way he firing coaches is like, look, somebody need to come in and make some changes. We need to become relevant quickly. And then Washington who knows what's going to go on in Washington, to where they're doing, may have to have a new name. Got to get a new stadium. You got to get new everything. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:New owner groups are like that, like, do you want that type of reset or do you want to be in the shadow of somebody like Billichick? Where you go somewhere like New England, where like, okay, you got six championships hanging over your head every day, like every day, and then, like you said, tennessee is probably the least amount of expectations, just because, like, they haven't been there yet and, like you said, probably to clean slate. But then you got LA where, hey, look, the other team that came here already won a championship. Like, what are y'all going to do? You know what I mean. And then you look at, like you said in Seattle, another one where they just been treading water year after year. But that division is also super tough.
Speaker 3:I don't want that Washington job by any means. That's a stinky job.
Speaker 4:Oh, the Carolina job.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't want that either. I don't want that either. But those three we talked about, you know what I'm saying LA, atlanta, tennessee. I will take you to one of those. Another reason why he might leave is have y'all looked at Michigan schedule next year?
Speaker 4:Bro, it is wild.
Speaker 3:That pack 12 coming to the big 10. Turn things up. They play Texas and nonconference. They play Texas, washington, oregon, usc and Ohio State next year.
Speaker 2:Crazy, but now but then, but see, but then that works now, because now with the playoff, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm glad that they get that. Yeah, you really going to be looking at okay, we're all teams to what they throw off teams, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:As another one seems to be crazy.
Speaker 3:You might even be able to lose a three ball.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like they're not going to walk in the park, so I'm ready. That's. That's going to bring us a lot of good football.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely, and it's going to expose some frauds early, yeah, so now I'm ready.
Speaker 3:You go, you go. Already these group of five teams are over undefeated. We should go to the.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:Take your butt down the mission down the Alabama and have to play them or something. Then we'll see.
Speaker 2:Like you look at, I wonder how. But like how the big 12 and like the ACC, like they didn't really get a lot of movement and them conferences ain't being as strong as like the big 10 and SEC or even the back 12.
Speaker 3:The big 12 kind of benefited basketball wise, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's the best conference if we talk about basketball. So I think you're going to come in because I think that's what I don't know if you guys do this, but I lose track of both, like all parts of it. You know what I'm saying, so it seems like oh man, damn.
Speaker 2:I'm looking for the big 12.
Speaker 3:I think basketball is looping. They got Kansas. They got, you know, Arizona.
Speaker 2:Arizona state.
Speaker 3:Like they got a nice little whip. As far as you know, college basketball goes. So, hey, this is probably going to be the best year of football for college football, for sure that we've seen.
Speaker 4:I can't say, I actually watch that shit.
Speaker 1:Man crazy man it's going to be crazy.
Speaker 3:The big 10 is lit and no more can we say oh, you make it through the big 10. Are you still there? If you go through the big 10 undefeated? Now you are that guy like you're a last quad and you can beat anybody in the country. Or again, Washington, USC, UCLA, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, dog, you make it through that. Yeah, you serious so with that being said now.
Speaker 2:Today just happened. Man Nick Saban returned like yeah, that's crazy. Now, dude, I mean, do that just open the floodgates at SEC? Uh, did Georgia now have nothing to worry about? Like do they keep going. Do you think they get to save recruits without Nick Saban?
Speaker 3:Like they're going to get a damn good coach. They're going to get a damn. They're going to surprise us with their coach. I can guarantee that they're talking about the guy. They're talking about the guy from Oregon, dan Lanny. That would be a hire. They're talking about Dabo Sweeney that would be crazy. They're going to get a heavy hitter in there they're going to reload.
Speaker 3:I'm not worried about Alabama and the least bit. They're going to get a ball coaching there. They're going to get somebody that's super established. You really think they're going to hire, you know, the video coordinator from the hell? No, they're going to get a top of the line and they're going to get a little coach in there that's going to be there for the duration of their career and Alabama is just going to reload and keep going.
Speaker 4:That's what I thought Was that a shot at Eric's poster.
Speaker 3:No man, how you figure that? Because he used to be a video. Oh man, no, no, no, no, hey, shut up hey. And he did the most player thing.
Speaker 4:They let his divorce go through before they paid him.
Speaker 3:That was fine. He shot out to them guys down there in Miami.
Speaker 2:That was crazy.
Speaker 3:But no, that wasn't a shot at his poster, I mean a slight exposure. That was a good one, you had me lost.
Speaker 2:Jump over to the Grand Mans League man End of the season awards. Oh my gosh, there's so many, we're not going up the wall. Mainly, who do you think that MVP going to be? Offensive player of the year, defensive player of the year, rookie of the year, offensive rookie, defensive rookie and coach?
Speaker 3:You can go.
Speaker 4:I mean MVP, who is it going to be? Lamar who? I think they're going to be Lamar who I see is still my vote for MVP, but you know, who do I think? Because it's traditionally a quarterback award and I'm not mad at Lamar Honestly. I mean I think of the cuties with the competition that he's went through. Yeah, I ain't mad at that. I mean they beat the, I don't say they beat the break soft for us because we out, game them.
Speaker 4:We just do hella picks, but they beat us by 14. They beat the break soft of Detroit. Who else did they beat the break soft? Every good team that they played, yeah, every good team that they played. Every good team that they played Wasn't really close. It was what? 14 or more for the most part. You can't tell me. That's not because of the more, because you know it's a fireworks was in and out throughout the year. Obviously, andrew's got hurt and I don't think likely does what he does at any other team other than the Ravens. He stepped in and filled the ranchers. Well, they kind of pick and choose when they wanted to dominate the ball, to run, but it was almost like they could do whatever they wanted. And that's all because of the Mars Town. I'm not mad at him being MVP against CMC and step in my vote because I think seems did the same thing for us. But would it be in the quarterback award? I think it's a little something.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's just stick with MVP right now. Who do you think, jared, if you had a pick?
Speaker 3:I'm kind of rolling with what I said. My thing is you all know I'm a numbers guy. You all know I'm a numbers guy and I don't know if 24 passing touchdowns and seven picks does it for me. 3600 yards Granted, he hasn't needed to do more than that, but I just don't really know if that cuts it.
Speaker 3:That would almost be like somebody winning the NBA MVP that averages like 28 or something like that. I don't know if that just stands out as MVP, but they are killing people. But they also have a very good team. They have no weaknesses. So can you add the fact that they're not having any weaknesses to Lamar Jackson's average statistics and make him the MVP? I don't really know the answer to that, but I'm not mad if he gets it. By all means, congratulations to him. I think a little piece of all of us is root for Lamar Jackson for obvious reasons that I don't really have to explain on there. So there's always a small piece of all of us that kind of wants to see him do well. And if you want to give him the MVP for the next 12 seasons, by all means, just to prove that the naysayers wrong.
Speaker 4:The numbers piece of it is that he kind of gets hit a little bit because in those games in which they were blowing people out, they were also on a short field because he's got a really good defense on the other side, so he didn't have as much of the chance to have really long drives and such like. The mean deal you got the ball on your side with 50. So that's why I look at it, just based off of what I've seen him do. So it was more eye tests for me. They're going to give it to a QB.
Speaker 3:Just nitpicking a little bit, I think. The three losses that they had, or three out of the four loss, well, the fourth loss, I think Did they end with four losses? They lost with Pittsburgh, right, but they didn't play anybody, I don't really count. Yeah, I think those other three legitimate losses. They had fourth quarter leads in all of them. So I mean, well, that's just nitpicking, that's just me just talking out loud. I'm not mad if he gets it, I'm not mad if Christian McCaffer gets it. My question is do we give the offensive player of the year to whoever gets MVP?
Speaker 2:Well, speaking on that next, Well, mine, I think, lamar, just because he's been good enough without having to do everything all the time. It wasn't just him, it wasn't just the running game as it has been in the past, like he didn't break his own Russian record, it wasn't just him and his legs. As we know him from being that dynamic runner, he was pretty balanced on the ground and the air and, like you said, with a good defense, supporting yeah, supporting those games you know, outside, like you said, the couple games in the full quarter they just, you know, fell apart. It wasn't often that he didn't come through and deliver when they needed him to help me. For the most part, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like, you know, I don't, I don't and this is not a knock on like party or anybody else who was in the running, you know, patrick or CMC. Like CMC had a ridiculous season for just one, just as a back, as a player. Like I think the NFL should implement that you know best, just player, you know, not MVP of the league, but like who was just the best overall player in the league. I would give that to Christian McCaffrey, because what he does from the block and standpoint from running to catch in just everything. He literally gets the team rolling Like if he breaks off of TN 15 yard run within the first quarter. You already know it's going to be a long night.
Speaker 2:Almost guarantee it and don't let him get a touchdown in the first half. You can guarantee that. Going bird feeding like the rest of the game, like he's going to, he gets everything going in San Francisco Like Debo, yeah, a new year on them guys. Yes, fine, warner defense yes, but CMC dictates San Francisco winning games. I feel like from what I've seen, when I watched them play like he definitely makes it easier on Brock.
Speaker 2:So easy, so easy, and like people take shots and, like I said, I wouldn't be like support if they say a block party, like if that was the call.
Speaker 3:Man, you really argue him over over the Marjaxon If you look at numbers and like sometimes like it's just a guy who had to make some throws, make some plays and like yeah, but Marjaxon is 15th in passing yards. That would definitely be a record for an MVP, but I think they look at, I think, qbr.
Speaker 2:I think QBR is that's how they really rate them, because it takes all your stats into consideration and completions, and percentages, he's fourth in QBR. I think that's what really gauges a QB. Now I'm with you. I'm with you, Like I said, if they would just say party, I wouldn't be like what.
Speaker 4:I would be like okay.
Speaker 2:I can see you.
Speaker 4:The thing I'll say about party is like because people were pissing me off by like trying to discount because we do have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we over that we do have a B-ball.
Speaker 4:No, he led the league in deep passes and actual connecting on the. So I mean he's not just dinking it down.
Speaker 3:Like real football guys, know that he puts the ball on the money and I don't care about a system I don't care about. I don't care about none of that.
Speaker 2:The system doesn't do. Take your accuracy and your ability to make the right read and put it on the money.
Speaker 4:If you can throw dots like your three of those interceptions in the Ravens game were not as far Tips.
Speaker 2:And if you look back at the line of his interceptions then it's tips Like maybe a tip at the line or maybe a linebacker get a hand on it. You know what I mean the receiver. You know what I mean. It closed out his head.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like he was throwing it right to the defense, like it wasn't, unless it was like a wrong round or miscommunication. Most of them was tips, from what I've seen, so that's not an accuracy issue. It may be just hey, somebody got they hand up or somebody jumped a little higher a line and got they hand up. You know what I mean. In the past I don't he wasn't thrown into the defense like that. So if you take that into consideration, respect my man.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I wouldn't be mad either way. Office of Plarity year Is this. Do we think this is a shoe in for Tyreek with the CMC?
Speaker 3:Well, CMC does have an argument, but you think I don't understand is if you're gonna give the MVP to an offensive player, how the hell is the offensive player to year, not how the hell is the same?
Speaker 2:person right.
Speaker 3:That kills me. They kill me with that in in college to how they announced, like the offense player to here in the quarterback, cuz they do quarterback. Oh yeah they do player to here, they do why they do all that and then Like, bro, how you gonna have an offensive players MVP, but that's not the offense player to you. So like that's stupid to me. So I don't, I Don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, depends on how you break down Value. Well, that's really, I think, how they try to separate it as opposed to just straight up. I mean, I cuz, I think office, a player year, you can look more to the numbers for us. Mvp, some people are gonna give you a little bit of a know this is my eye test type of thing and who may be more valuable? My, whatever you said, I mean I, if Tyreek had not missed game, I probably would have won Tyree. But because he missed those games, I think CMC was more I Was gonna say valuable, but in terms of offense I think he did at least enough. Yeah, it's out Tyree. He had the most touchdowns in NFL this season.
Speaker 2:I think he did like between receiving the Russian. I think he had the most.
Speaker 4:Probably I'd have to double check on that. You know he's tired and rushing. I want to say with most air yeah but I'm just thinking about just scoring.
Speaker 2:And when you think I offense, I mean scoring, he was, I mean he was topping. You know he was one of the top rushers, so like it wasn't like he was like super low yards or he was, it was short yardage or anything like that. Yeah, he was number one yards. He had 14 Russian touchdowns, uh, and I don't know what they, I don't know what he had and he hadn't receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 3:Oh, Chris McAfrey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, christian McAfrey. Yeah, because, uh, that I think he led the league in touchdowns also, like overall. So I mean, if that's the case, then I think he should be definitely the offensive player to uh, office player to year. Like you said, if Tyree good about maybe both that record when they got hurt, broke that record, then I would say okay, cool, like and definitely, yeah, yeah, he had To. Yeah, he had six receiving touchdowns, so, yeah, he let the league in receiving touchdowns too. So, um, I mean not in receiving touchdowns, but like overall touchdowns. So I I would say give it to him.
Speaker 2:Um, not to discount what Tyree did, because that was just ridiculous and he was very close to breaking that record. Um, like you said, if he wouldn't miss that game he probably would have broke it. Um, then I would say probably him. But yeah, I say CMC, if you don't give him the MVP, uh, at least give him the offensive player to year. Defensive player. Yeah, I think this is where it gets real dicey, uh, because normally just go to a DEN in sacks or somebody who had like a ridiculous amount of interceptions, um, but you look at the other boy from the Cowboys, what's his name? Blaine.
Speaker 2:Darren Blaine yeah, he make a case with this. Or do we put more weight on sacks with miles geared and tj white and uh parson's and uh Duden Jacksonville, I can't remember his name. Uh, do we put more emphasis on sacks or interceptions, or pick sixes at that, never mind, not just.
Speaker 3:I don't, I don't think either one goes over the other. I say you, uh, you know you weigh them out even there. I mean, a pig is a pig and the sack is the sack like.
Speaker 4:They're ready for pick sixes. But he also got picked on like a lot like Once people kind of figured him out and it was almost like digs last year. Like me, digs got a lot of interceptions and then everybody was like, well, we still not afraid of you, like we're still gonna pick on you, we're still gonna. And so he got be. He had some games where he looked bad too. I, um man, I still like white man, I I don't know why that dude Continues to get to the quarterback the way he does and and it almost seems like he's unstoppable every game. I'm not bad at white for my vote, but I mean there are some others who are really close.
Speaker 2:He had nine interceptions total. With five TDs, he had 209 interception yards. Nobody else even had two interceptions for touchdowns, he had five.
Speaker 3:But I know, I know digs gave up the most yards of anybody last year. I think he had like 1200 on him last year. Yeah, yeah, I think he went crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he had 11. But then you look at TJ White with 19 sacks. Look, josh Allen that's his name 17 and a half. Trey Hendrick yeah, hendrickson, he has 17 and a half. And they her boy, khalil Mac. You know, day 100 has 16 and a half. So that's the top five.
Speaker 3:Did you say Trey Hendrickson?
Speaker 2:Yes, he has 17 and a half. He was tired with Josh Allen for second.
Speaker 3:He has 17 and a half sacks. Probably had like 23 good plays all year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 25 solo tackles, I mean 43.
Speaker 3:I was exaggerating. That's crazy. 25, that's my issue with the bingles like bro.
Speaker 2:Out of the top five. Everybody at least has 37 solo tackles in the top five.
Speaker 3:Just stop the run, bro Give me some to stop the run.
Speaker 2:He only had 43 tackles total. Yeah, I Think I agree with you, like like TJ White, like if your last name is white I don't know what it is in that household but yeah, they some dogs. You based some dogs, but yeah, because he led the league in sacks three years straight, like that's. That's crazy and it's all been like I think it's been 15 and more sacks every year.
Speaker 4:I just like the game, so we're going out early in the game or something. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's still beat the next guy by One and a half, which one and a half don't sound like much, but when you come to sacks, that's a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah to get night D. That's crazy For all from the record he almost took. If he wouldn't got hurt because a lot, some games he got hurt he let, like you said, he left out early like if he would have played every down he definitely would have broke that record. What 22 he would have definitely broke that. I Don't see him not breaking it. But yeah, I don't know, that's to me. That's tough for defensive player to year Cuz, cuz, five interception touchdowns, that's tough too, like it's already hard to get interceptions but to run five of them back out of nine, that's more than half. That's no easy task.
Speaker 3:He's the record for defensive touchdowns in a year.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in four. Yeah, yeah. So that's like I said, that in itself is crazy, I Think. What do you think about rookie in here? I think that's kind of close to I think we all think it's CJ Stroud. Yeah, nobody else, even close. Yeah, I don't think he got him to the playoffs.
Speaker 3:I bet take Dale will probably get some votes, like because CJ Stroud. But I'm trying to think Bijon will probably get a couple votes here and there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to With the nominees.
Speaker 4:Oh.
Speaker 3:I don't think he'd be CJ Stroud.
Speaker 2:David Willis for Seattle played great this year.
Speaker 3:Well, that's defense.
Speaker 2:I mean, but that's rookie of the year, like it can go to defense or offense.
Speaker 3:No, they got offense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they go defensive office, but don't they do a rookie of the year too? Just a song.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, yes, Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, yes, so my bad. So office of rookie. So see, drake Stroud, you got Nuka. And then what about HN Magic if he don't get hurt? He's still I mean he's still up there in Russia and defense.
Speaker 3:But like I said about the MVP quarterback award, the offense rookie I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean you have a quarterback.
Speaker 3:that goes crazy with me, it's how QB is it's?
Speaker 2:hard. Yeah, you're right, it's hard, even though, like he had like one of the best Ricky seasons for a receiver ever. So I mean I think he can challenging but like, like you said, getting took. Well, he did get. He got to the playoffs to. But to be a rookie QB Intelligent team to the playoffs, like that's, that's tough to do. So I think that is gonna go to CJ Stroud. I do feel some rookie. I think Devin may take it over Jalen and they got will Anderson as a nominee to. I don't think he had the like I didn't really hear his name that much. I think he only had like six and a half sacks, but maybe he had impacts on other other ways. Jalen Carter was a dog, I mean, but on that D line where you pretty much 101 all the time.
Speaker 3:Wait, what year is bland?
Speaker 2:I think. So I don't think this is first year, because he had because they were talking about him last year having some interception returns. Okay, so I don't think this is the first year, but Devin Lewis was pretty locked down to like nine picks is crazy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I Probably think they're gonna give it to Witherspoon. He had what? Let's see three sacks, ten pressures, ten paths, breaks up in coverage and show how many picks he had. Let me see if I can find his picks, cuz that's. Let's see. He only had one interception but he has 65 tackles. He was only target is 69 times, which is 44. He only really loud 39 receptions.
Speaker 1:Mmm that's.
Speaker 2:That's crazy in itself. His overall rating as a player was 84. Like that's tough three sacks, but he probably playing the slide a lot of times too. It looks like to have 65 tackles as a corner like. That in itself is pretty impressive. Glenn was drafted in the 22. Okay, yeah, so he.
Speaker 3:He's got 14 picks through two seasons. He's on. He's on pace. Be the best Back in man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, I think Willis-Boom gets that. I don't see Carter Really being close, maybe early in the season, but he kind of cooled off later on in the season. So Another one coach of the year, I think? No, we'll come back. We already know Tomorrow, him, and I think he pretty much got that locked up, unless you want to give it to flacco or Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3:Mmm, don't you got a play to become back player here?
Speaker 2:I think we almost die and come back.
Speaker 4:Crazy 14, that first two. You want even the next quarterback in line after what's in got her, and to be 38 hey.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna say he elite, but hey, he got something left in the take and he's showing it man. And then Baker Mayfield. I mean To get Tampa Bay into the playoffs also to get Cleveland we're into playoffs for the first time in a long time to pretty much Don't know a disaster there to go to Tampa, to go to the Rams, win a game or two there and then go to Tampa Bay when they got a really talented roster, and to come in and kind of keep that ship afloat in a horrible I.
Speaker 2:Mean, yeah, so I Think it's gonna go to more handle, like you said, sympathy. But I mean, joe Flacco got a case and I think they make Baker Mayfield has a small case. And Then, last but not least, coach of the year. This is probably the toughest one right now. The nominees they got as, yes, dan Campbell, I don't think that's not a bad pick. The faske and in Cleveland, I Don't think that's not a bad pick.
Speaker 3:A lot, and then hardball, just because they were.
Speaker 2:For a while.
Speaker 3:That's what I think.
Speaker 2:I think I think coach of the year is more surprise coaches, not like dominant, like okay, like that's a messed up situation, like that's playoff team still like Like three running backs, like receivers was in the season, like they have been healthy nowhere.
Speaker 2:So like to still, like you said, to still put in the NFC in the NFC north of all places, probably Top three toughest divisions, like, yes, your opinion, but that's a really hard division and to pull off that record with all those injuries. A yo 230 million dollar quarterback is hurt like in the pool, old guy off the streets to for him to come in and do what he did, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:But I was. I was expecting him not to make the playoffs, though, six weeks ago. I was thinking this work was out and he was fired.
Speaker 2:What if he wins this first round game? What if he wins?
Speaker 3:I think I know the bills.
Speaker 4:Yes, they're ten and a half point dog, by the way, and they can still have a chance to win.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. The Steelers are a ten and a half dog to the bills.
Speaker 2:Yes, Because the host is horrible. There's no fucking way in jail and a playoff game.
Speaker 3:They're not about to get beat by 10 points bro.
Speaker 2:And a playoff game.
Speaker 3:And then the bills are like a roller coaster too Like.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You don't know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 3:The boy is like not happy unless he throws two or three picks. Win or lose, josh Allen, he ain't, he's not satisfied unless he throws two or three picks. There is no way that they beat them by double digits. I feel like they might beat them by three, maybe seven, ten and a half they may have went down since. I saw it early in the league. It was ten and a half.
Speaker 2:I need to bet that right now they're gonna Speaking of playoff matchups. Saturday at four, you got the Browns in the Texans. Saturday at eight, you got Dolphins Chiefs. Sunday at one, you got Steelers Bills. So they did all the AMC games first and then the NFC teams next round out Sunday.
Speaker 3:You usually put a playoff game on Monday night.
Speaker 2:Yes, there'll be the Eagles and Bucks Monday night.
Speaker 3:I'm saying like have they done that?
Speaker 2:I think the past couple of years they have, maybe since they've switched up the format to where it's not two first round miles, I think they have.
Speaker 3:All right, I saw that. I was like is that normal or is that something new? I could call it.
Speaker 2:And since we already into it, I mean this Brown Texan game is gonna be pretty interesting. Texans are at home. Even though Browns had a better record, texans won the division, so yeah, they're gonna be used to. Does that a factor? Do you think that matters? Or is this game way closer to anybody thinks? Or Brown?
Speaker 3:It's gonna be closer to the things. I don't think that you know where the game is. It's gonna matter, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4:I think for some teams it matters more than others, like I think for Dallas it mattered more than it matters to other teams to be at home, because they play so much better at home.
Speaker 3:I think that's why I didn't even sell that joint out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, in this particular instance, no, I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2:It's already sold out by the way Sorry.
Speaker 4:Because the Browns defense is gonna travel regardless, so you know whether they're home or away. You know your defense is gonna be your defense. I agree with that, they're gonna be good regardless. If they bad, they gonna be bad regardless. Which leads me to a pick, this later, but we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2:No, actually we're not doing the pick-ums just because we fell off, so we can pick now, just for.
Speaker 4:Oh, I was gonna say I'm picking the Bucks over the Eagles because the Eagles deep in the stretch. I was gonna say who are you picking in this? I want Stroud to win, but I can't go against the Browns defense right now. It's really tough to go against them and Flacco is my Elite You're.
Speaker 2:Flacco. What about you?
Speaker 3:Jarrett what you think. Yeah, I'm gonna go Browns. I mean I think we asking too much for Stroud to come out with a playoff game too last that's that kind of crap just doesn't happen. It just doesn't really happen. So for me, knowing what I know and seeing what I've seen, I'm gonna go with Browns, just based on experience.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but the Browns defense can't win the game. Stroud has to win the game.
Speaker 3:Because that's the thing like a homeboy for the Browns, has still been throwing picks. I mean, he's just been throwing touchdowns too, but he's yeah and his defense is then getting critical stops, critical stops.
Speaker 2:So like it's been a battle of field position and like, no, they've been playing like old school football to the tee. Like it's been field position, there's been winning them a lot of games. But I take the Browns too. Also can't pick the Texas, but I take the Browns for all the same reasons.
Speaker 4:Man, that defense like you don't even make the playoffs. What's that go?
Speaker 2:I know I still can't reach for the Texas Shut up.
Speaker 3:It ain't about rooting for him.
Speaker 2:I just I just can't even win. I mean I don't want to win. So if I pick them, that means I'm rooting for them to win, that's just who you think is going to win. Well, I still think the Browns are going to win.
Speaker 3:The Browns win is not the same bro.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm still going with the Browns. I didn't know what?
Speaker 3:Michigan didn't necessarily win the championship, but I thought they were going to win, so like I picked them.
Speaker 2:But yeah, again, the Browns defense travel well. Like you said, all the same things. Flacco don't have to win the game. He has a lot of playoff experience. He's won a championship.
Speaker 4:He's weak.
Speaker 2:I don't know about that. He's good enough. He's good enough to win, so I'm okay with that. Dolphins Chiefs this is probably going to be like one of the most interesting games. It's in Arrowhead and it's supposed to be zero below in Mace. No, did these Florida boys go up there and show out? Or do the Chiefs finally catch some balls Like no homo?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's crazy, catching balls is nuts. There you go, paws Crazy.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I don't know. This is probably the hardest pick out of all of them to me, because you don't know how the Dolphins are going to play. They've been playing bad against good teams and then you just don't know if Kansas City going to flip the switch and start looking like the Chiefs of Olds I'm going to say the Chiefs Just because Homefield advantage. I don't know why putting that in there. Arrowhead is one of the loudest stadiums they use to the elements. That's the only reason why I'm not saying they can't lose. I'm just picking them because if the Dolphins make enough plays, they can very much win this game.
Speaker 3:I got Dolphins, bro. Great, give me a Chiefs Dolphins is looking funny in the light.
Speaker 4:Look, I'm taking the Dolphins because the Chiefs can't catch. That's going to be super important.
Speaker 2:I can't argue that at all. They couldn't catch when it was dry. They couldn't catch in domes. So now with the elements co-hands, it makes it even harder to catch.
Speaker 4:I mean all of the side factors. The Dolphins have two run effects that if it does snow they can lean on very heavily, whereas the Chiefs Although I think Pacheco is a really good runner back and they don't use them enough in the running game. That's my problem is they don't run a ball, and Rice also.
Speaker 2:I think he's going to be key too, sorry.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but yeah, that's why I got the Dolphins, just because of the running game this is a cornflip, but that's where I'm going.
Speaker 2:Solid pick. We were kind of talking about this before Steelers builds. Did we verify this? 10 point dogs for the Steelers?
Speaker 4:I don't know they changed throughout the week. It's been much lower.
Speaker 2:It's also supposed to snow there, but both teams are used to this weather, both have open stadiums, but the Steelers defense has came along a little bit since Rudolph has been in there. I don't know if it's enough to beat the Bills, because the Bills is probably the hottest team going into playoffs right now outside of the Ravens, but we always talk about this in the beginning of the season. We talk about the Bills, and this is the time of the year where the Bills start acting like the old Bills.
Speaker 3:ESPN still has them as a 10 point dog. It's still 10. It's a 10 point dog.
Speaker 2:Do they put all of this on Josh Allen to make all the plays? I don't know. I think the Steelers are going to go in with like hey look, we're here on borrow money. We don't really have a lot to prove.
Speaker 3:Is there a defense?
Speaker 1:No, there's a defense.
Speaker 3:I think it's why they don't play.
Speaker 2:But even without, why? I don't think it just makes the defense.
Speaker 3:I don't see them move. I don't see them move. I'm at 10 to the Buffalo.
Speaker 4:I'm thinking about 10 points.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that. That's kind of big pause.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go Steelers, just because I just feel like Buffalo is going to go in. I'm going to go Buffalo on that, but if we were doing sprays, Alright, let's jump over to the NFC side real quick before we wrap things up. So Sunday at 430, you got Packers Cowboys yeah, Cowboys at home were playing at lights out. Packers defense have not been the best.
Speaker 3:They might fuck around and destroy the.
Speaker 4:Packers, but if you win by 30,. That's probably the only slowest one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I had to pick a blowout, that would probably be the only one. But if love the offense have not been playing bad. But if you can't, you got to be able to slow down the Cowboys at some point. So I'm going Cowboys, but yeah there's no way.
Speaker 4:They're going to ball. They've got a chance.
Speaker 2:What about you? You going, everybody going. Cowboys yeah, I'm going Cowboys Sunday at 8. Sunday night game. You got Rams and Lions. So you got Lions home playoff game. They won the North and the Rams surprisingly making it in. Nobody's seen this. At the beginning they snuck in that boy. They had like just the inexperience and like the injuries, like did not see this.
Speaker 3:I met Adam Right.
Speaker 2:Matthew Stafford returned into Detroit.
Speaker 4:He could either give his old team a gift.
Speaker 2:Both quarterbacks. So either you know this can really well, I ain't going to say it can really determine who could won that trade, because I think the Rams won it because they have a Super Bowl out of it. But this is going to be an interesting game. It's going to be more than just a game. It's a game within the game.
Speaker 3:Give me Detroit.
Speaker 1:I was leaning towards the Rams.
Speaker 2:I am too. I am. I think I'm going to take the Rams. The Lions have been up and down into the season Like.
Speaker 4:I think it's a lot of guys like Dallas, and that's why they made the playoffs. They won 790 last eight games. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going to say they did like six in a row or something. Yeah, they, they, they are pretty, they play a pretty good ball, pretty good ball. So I'm not, I'm going to pick the.
Speaker 3:Rams.
Speaker 2:They didn't really be nobody in their stretch, though, but you know, but still, I mean, momentum is momentum, so hopefully they can keep that going. Nothing against the Lions, yeah.
Speaker 4:And then you got to Monday night, I'll go. I'm going to go Rams Because I want them to come to the same assistant next week. Oh Tarz dropped in a session.
Speaker 2:So Monday night we got Eagles books. You already said, Jerry, you going to bug.
Speaker 3:No, that was like, I'm going to use a branch.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm going to go Eagles. That's, that's tough because, like you said, the Eagles defense is trash. But then Baker may feel like what Baker is going to show up.
Speaker 4:Like it matters. Eagles defense is trash Bro. I don't remember where I saw this, but this was the very issue. The Eagles defense, since we date is literally dead last, like the worst defense.
Speaker 3:And that's crazy, because our defense is yeah. I guess I guess that's saying a lot.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say I'm going to pick Eagles, only because I just I don't know, I think something happens. I just I don't know, I just think something happens.
Speaker 4:So yeah, go Baker.
Speaker 3:Go Baker.
Speaker 2:Oh, man, we'll jump in the final thoughts. Man, we can get out of here. Man, we had a good show today Dogs.
Speaker 3:I don't even know what I'm talking about. I just wanted to say that you just want to say dogs, want to say free to dogs. Free to dog Not talking about anybody in particular, matter of fact. Dogs. But free to dogs just sound cooler. So it's my final thought. I'm accused, so I'll take it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm more of a cat person, but I guess free to dogs wherever they are.
Speaker 4:We don't even like the cat. This is your house.
Speaker 2:The cat is no longer in our house. He is in Chicago. We donated him to her sister. He's been. He's been gone for a couple months now. I didn't, it wasn't me, it wasn't me, it wasn't me. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 3:It was, it was, it was. I didn't want to have.
Speaker 2:Well, that didn't work anyway, that it won't the first time it works, but I didn't like that cat. I do like cats. I didn't like that cat, um, just because he tore up a lot of my stuff. He tore up my VR chord Like I couldn't use my VR. Like we talking hundreds, hundreds dollars of charging chords and cables and stuff for Uh expensive equipment. That, yeah, he just bit through, he scratched her. If you ever see her, you see this long scratch down her arm. It was from him.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 2:He almost died that night. So yeah, the biggest scar on my wife's body is not from having a baby, a C-section, it's from a cat. That's crazy. So yeah. Very much so, yes, but yeah, no man, my friend tosses man. I'm just happy we back man. Yeah, unfortunately, you know, justin's work schedule just has not been able to permit him to Join us on a regular basis.
Speaker 4:Justin, I'm gonna pick on you every week. I'm also no point of fact that you pick Seattle to win. My vision did, and they need make plans, so I. Got some city every show. I don't know what's gonna be it I'm making up. It ain't always gonna be true easy. I'm saying that right now Don't matter. I'm gonna say something about.
Speaker 2:Um, but I do have someone to come and help out from time to time, my guy boom Steve, so he'll be in some days helping us out time to time. Of course, we always got crossroads my cousin Jonathan and them come through, especially with March Madness coming up college basketball they definitely gonna be key in our show. So, man, keep tuning in. Man, we're gonna keep working hard to bring out content and, with nothing else to be said, we are out. Okay, bye, bye, bye.