E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
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E.P.I.C. Podcast "Every Play Is Crucial"
S2: Episode 38
Dare to predict the outcome of the clash between the Texas Rangers and the Arizona Diamondbacks in the MLB World Series? Tune in to our thrilling conversation as we dissect team stats, weigh pitching against offense, and speculate on which team will light up the ratings. We're taking you on a ride through these fascinating dynamics, making it an exciting experience for every sports enthusiast.
Ever wonder why more basketball teams don't adopt a system similar to the Suns? Our analysis of the recent Suns vs Warriors game, with its key absent players, might give you some insight. We're turning the spotlight on the college football scene too, unearthing a potential scandal at the University of Michigan tied to the New England Patriots organization. Key players, stats, and the looming shadow of Caleb Williams' pro demands over the college football draft - we're discussing it all.
The world of NFL is a complex gridiron, and we're here to make sense of it all - ranging from college football rankings, playoff scenarios, to the impact of critical player injuries. Our in-depth analysis of Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, and Ohio State's chances of making the playoffs is something you won't want to miss. And that's not all! We're talking about Myles Garrett's minority stake ownership in the Cleveland Cavaliers, Frank Clark's expected signing by the Seattle Seahawks, and how the Browns game could've changed with better referee calls. So, join us as we fuel your love for the game with our analysis, predictions, and impassioned discussions.
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Speaker 1:Yo yo yo. Welcome to another episode of the epic podcast. We're in the house with Jared and Justin by audio, so you won't see just what you were here just the most definitely. Um, Ike is on a cruise. He's on the freaking cruise. Let's us out here. Oh, that's cool. He needed some time. He needed some time. So how was your sports weekend man?
Speaker 3:Cool man chilling. I mean that nothing, really never had that going on. I'm just happy Mba's back, that is.
Speaker 1:I almost forgot it that the mba was, uh was back. Um, I was. It was late last night, I had a bunch of stuff to do yesterday and then, like I forgot what I was doing, to remind me somebody was like amen, the mba is on and by that time it was the end of the golden state game. I Know, I know, I know it was a busy day yesterday for me.
Speaker 3:Damn. I think we just lost Justin. Uh, I think we did.
Speaker 1:it's cool, we'll get you back.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's, let's get it in what we got Yep.
Speaker 1:So first thing we're gonna start off with uh, we're gonna get this out the way. We are not an mlb show. Uh, that's just not our area of expertise. I like baseball, but I love baseball. Oh shoot, I guess we are right. Today we're gonna be a mlb show. No, no, no.
Speaker 3:I love baseball but I love the reds like oh okay, so I love baseball and I'm a red socks guy, so I can't really get you know. We're gonna get into it. I mean I know we got the Texas Rangers and the diamond backs in the world series, which Nobody can really say that they predicted not at all.
Speaker 1:Oh, especially when you had the Phillies, who's Been in the past right years twice, and then you had Houston, who's been Five times in the past seven years.
Speaker 3:Uh you kind of Over a hundred games this year. You just yeah, they were a shoe in.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, um, when, again, when, now that you're looking at the diamond backs and the rangers, you're kind of like dang, like I can't wait to see what those ratings look like, because yeah it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3:Those aren't even really big baseball markets either.
Speaker 1:Well, the range, well the Rangers is Texas, so I mean, that's cowboys bro.
Speaker 3:We're worried about the Rangers, but we'll see. We'll see.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you have the diamond backs. They were 84 in 78. The Rangers is 90 and 72. I got something to stats up on the uh On the screen for people who see uh bad average 247 versus 256. You got 18 home runs. This is just postseason numbers 18 home runs this postseason versus 22 for the Rangers. 51 runs, 71 runs. Uh, you 16 stolen bases Versus nine for the Rangers. And then you're looking at the e r A. When it comes down to pitching, you got the diamond backs pitching 2.3 e r A versus the Rangers 3.76. So I mean you look like you're gonna have better pitching on one end, but then you got better offense on the other end with the Rangers right. So it may be some good games, some real close games. I don't foresee too many blowouts. Um, just because it's not a lot of Uh don't like is a lot of home runs, a lot of high, bad and average. It's in like it's gonna be coming down to pitching as most world series does. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3:So yeah, again, like that, it's gonna also come down to who who's. I mean, they're both hot, obviously, because they They've been the world series, but who can continue or who's gonna fizzle out. Like that's gonna be, and that's kind of like one of the questions. I don't know if you had this for me, but I'm gonna go ahead and ask you, like In any sport, whether we're talking basketball, football, baseball Would you rather see the two hottest teams or the two best team? Well, I got three options. So a would be the two hottest teams, b would be the two best teams like all season long, or c, a little bit of baufer, you don't care.
Speaker 1:Um, oh, that's tough, because I mean Best teams. I mean, when you look at best teams, are you looking at just record or like offense?
Speaker 3:You know number of home runs? I mean if you look at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'm just saying because, if you look at it Like the best team would basically be the team who won the most games.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then, and then you got like statistical To statistically speaking the.
Speaker 3:Braes were off the charts. I mean they, they hit more home runs and I think I've ever seen in my lifetime Like it was a nuts stolen basis. Um, you know they, they had a crazy season all year long and I think for me I guess I'll go ahead and answer it for me I kind of like to see the best teams because that's what I kind of expect. But baseball is just never like that. Man, you hardly ever see how many think of how many times that the Dodgers have been the you know the clear cut favorite in national league and how many you know world series they've won. You know, as of recent Um, so it's, it never really ends up like that. Um, I'm not a braves fan by any stretch of the imagination, but they've been the best team all season and I kind of wanted to see them in the world series. But you know it all worked out like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, I think, in that aspect, I mean, if that was the case, then it would really be hard to watch sports, Because, you know, I mean because then you just you'll see who's dominating, and then that would just be it and that will be.
Speaker 3:That's a very good point. That's a very good, but although you know they do have two different leagues like as the best part I got the east and the west, so you'll get to see the best of those. But I do see you know what you're saying, so I I definitely see that too because I think you just you're kind of shutting out fan bases and everything else just like you know, I mean you kind of focusing on these two.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true.
Speaker 3:I think that's true for sure.
Speaker 1:Uh, because I know a lot of teams I go for aren't the best all the time. So then, like if I knew, like like Boston, like if we had a chance and we in the playoffs. But it's like all right, well, atlanta had a historical season. Like you said, the Braves when are the Dodgers? Had a historical season. It's like, okay, all the publicity and everybody's talking about just these two teams and my team may have been number two. You know, what I mean is just like 162 games.
Speaker 3:It's just crazy, man. Like 162 games is so many. I feel like I'm not Getting my money's worth if I don't see the team who's dominated all year. But, like you said, to your point that makes Like above excellent sense. So yeah, I get that, but it's still kind of a bummer. I got 162 games this team and killed all season. Like you kind of want to see them against the team in the american league that's been killing it all season.
Speaker 1:But but you know, man, it's just like any sport. It's not really about how much you win, it's about when. When are you winning? Are you playing good at the right time? Yeah, you know what I mean, because a lot of teams start off slow and then they start picking up in, like July and August, and that carries them in the September, october and baseball that's what you really see. A lot of runs happen, um, so it's just like maybe they're playing their best baseball earlier in the year and then shoot, got burnt out, come to playoffs. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So Right right, it happens to a lot of teams, you know. So that's why I like we don't put a lot of stake in, like what's happening early in college football or you know, uh, the nfl and things that are even the NBA. You know what I mean, because it's a um, it's a game of runs. So but uh. Speaking of that, man, let's let's talk about the NBA man, uh, didn't get to watch the game, so I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3:But I did figure out what was going on, I bet, if you didn't yeah, I did, all right, cool.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the first game. Didn't the nuggas and lakers man? Uh nuggas ended up beating the lakers. It was 19 to 107. We had yoke edge with 29, 13 and 11, jamal Murray with uh, 21, 2 and 6, and then uh, you had. On the other side you had lebron james with 21, 8 and 5 and then anthony davis 17, 8 and 4. So, uh, from your perspective and watching the game, how did that go? I heard ad was 0 for 6 in the second half.
Speaker 3:He didn't score a bucket didn't score a point in the second half. Um, unfortunately for lakers fans. Lebron enthusiasts what have you? This season is looking like it's gonna be much of the same. Um, I kind of watched differently than the most person like than most people from what I'm hearing. Um, I look at small details. Um, I look at the fact that you know how I am about coaches that don't say anything directly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you all about adjustment.
Speaker 3:Yes, same same old, same old zero offense. I mean, the offense is literally just pick up la fitness basketball, that's not gonna win. But nothing's changed. Everything's exactly the same. Um, defense rotations they still don't talk. I don't know if, like lebron's, instituted a team rule where you know you can't talk on defense, they still don't talk. Uh, still wide open, uh, you know. Shooters uh, you know, joker is still magically faster than anthony davis. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how, uh, but he's still faster. It's almost like you know when, when, uh, when joker has his dribble. Well, you know, he hasn't dribbled yet and he's got. You know, uh, anthony davis, in the post, his first step beats anthony davis. Every time when he puts that ball on the ground and spins, it's like anthony davis forgot he was playing defense. How, how is joker's first step losing? I mean, he'd be lost, he'd be lost, he was the last carbon copy of everything we seen last year.
Speaker 3:and I'm not talking about the playoffs, I'm talking about through the Through the regular season.
Speaker 1:You know they're grossly underachieving.
Speaker 3:So, um, I didn't have anything to be really enthusiastic about. I didn't see anything that was, you know, had to to leave me to be optimistic pretty much. You know mr Hans in his pocket Coaching and that's it.
Speaker 1:Okay, um, yeah, man, and there was a lot of talk, uh, before this game happened, which I really think that's the reason why the NBA put this game first, because after the nuggies eliminated the Lakers out of the playoffs, it was a lot of chirping back and forth through the teams throughout the off season and after they won the championship, um, so To come out and you know where, anthony davis kind of stating to hey look, we were waiting, we can't wait for this, we're looking forward to this game, and To not score a bucket in the second half for two quarters, that's tough. Uh, he's just taking the most difficult shots, he's not trying to get to the rim. Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I didn't watch the game.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying, I'm just speaking hypothetically.
Speaker 1:I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 3:but even still, he's just not that guy anymore. I don't know if he's not that guy, he can't be, but he's just not playing like it. So it's just, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, it took them a minute last year to kind of turn it on and they kind of put it together a little bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like in the playoffs they ended up figuring something out and you know it's like somewhat. They got a couple of few new pieces, so that's another small detail. But yeah, they definitely got to pick up their defense, because that's one thing they did doing a playoffs. They did play better on defense.
Speaker 3:I think that's what carried them throughout the playoffs, so they got to find that intensity again, but again they're going to have to find a way to get some easier baskets Like I don't know.
Speaker 1:But if they play defense, then you can rebound, you can get out and run.
Speaker 3:Those are the that's.
Speaker 1:That's. That's where your easy buckets can really come. You know what I mean, especially if you don't have it in a best, if you don't have it in the half court, that's very true, but yeah, so let's get to the second game.
Speaker 1:Man, we have Suns versus Warriors Suns and I'm coming out on top by four man 108 to 104. You have Devin Booker with a hot 32, six rebounds, eight assists. Kd came along with 18 and 10 and three, 18, 10 and three, curry 27, five and one and Clay Thompson 15, seven and three. It seemed like it was a good game. Like I said, I didn't get to catch this one. Like.
Speaker 1:I said it was the very end by the time I got to it. Like I said, one word for watching at the end, even though it was close. But yeah, this there was no Bradley Beal in this game either, so I want to put that out there too. So people saying this close and this Suns team is going to be dominant. We still haven't seen him with Bradley Beal. He didn't play at all. I guess he's hurt.
Speaker 3:Jermaine didn't play for the Warriors either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No, jermaine either. So those are two key components that could have affected this game differently in one way or another, but still a close game. Chris Paul, still, I think he had double digits in nine. I think he had like 15 and nine or 17 and nine or something like that, I think it was 15 and nine 13 and nine. It was 13 and nine. I just didn't have room to put his stats on here too.
Speaker 1:So it seemed like he's fitting in here also, you know, fitting in good with the Sun. Oh gosh, he was there last year with the Warriors and kind of being that extra piece they need.
Speaker 3:It's almost like they brainwash guys before they come through that door. They come through and they get right to that system. Man, that system is an MF.
Speaker 1:But when you got movement, constant movement, and that's the half court pressure you put on the defense, then it's tough.
Speaker 3:I don't know why more teams don't emulate it?
Speaker 1:Guys don't want to run.
Speaker 3:I can't understand why more teams don't go to that motion offense.
Speaker 1:And that's all it is. It's just a continuous motion offense.
Speaker 3:But still, and then they have, like what I was speaking about earlier with the Lakers need with AD, they still have built in components. Okay, if I get this, look, I know that he's going to do this, so I can free. You know what I'm saying. I can see it and get to it before it even happens.
Speaker 1:They do a lot of that, I mean do you got a Chris Paul who, just, I mean he is who he is, you know, right Far as running offenses and getting people shot, yeah you got to respect him shooting too, even though he ain't you know who he was, but he can still drop 20 any night. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So for sure, excellent in the midrange. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Defensively too. He's still you know, he's still one of the top steel guys in the league the past couple of years. So I mean, he's still Chris Paul for the most part. So so, yeah, I think he's going to be a great asset. Get your mind back that. It help on defense also. But then these sons with Bradley, bill man, that's gonna be tough and they play better defensively. And then if you get KD hitting the board, you know without it, eight and anymore, you know somebody down to who's consistently giving you, you know, anywhere from 10 to 15 rebounds. To have KD now helping out on the boards, because you could take some time to get it, because you could take some of that scoring load off of him. I think that's going to be good for the sons. So, but I mean two good games that look like outside of the Laker game, but we got some more games coming up. Had them pulled up, we see.
Speaker 3:We got Dallas and Sennions, dallas and Sennions only the other night. That's going to be crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1:So tonight you got the Hawks and Hornets, you got the Pacers and Wizards, you got the Rockets and Magics, you got the Celtics and Knicks should be good Cavaliers and Nets, timberwolves and Raptors, pistons and Heat. That's a lot of games today. Pelicans and Grizzlies, bulls and Thunders, kings and Jazz, mavericks and Spurs, like you said, and Treblasers and Clippers Solid, yeah, it's gonna be. I mean solid opening day. Everybody you know they're trying to get out of all the games knocked out For this week and then shoot even tomorrow. You got Bucks and 76ers and then you got Sons and Lakers. So it's going to be a jam packed week, man. Good games of basketball, even this weekend.
Speaker 1:As I'm looking, it's going to be a lot of good games this week. So make sure you tune in. Let's jump into a little college football man Recap this week. Some good games, man, really good games this week, ohio State being Penn State 20 to 12. I watched that whole game. I was very interested. I did. I was very interested on how I was going to play out, just because Penn State had been playing really good. But Ohio State has been really getting back on track to showing that they Ohio State of old.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like I mean just I feel like they were finding their rhythm. So two teams, that was kind of playing good. I want to see, especially in the big team, they probably two top well two and three in the top 10 right in the big team right now. So I just really want to see how they play against each other, because Penn State has been ranked high all year. But again I was kind of thinking like who have they really played?
Speaker 3:Oh no, don't, don't say that. No, I'm going to say no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:The thing with Penn State is like they've kind of been that consistent 13 in the big team over the past 10 years. You know what I mean. So I can understand them being ranked, you know, with Ohio State and Michigan, because they clearly have been. You know that team. But this was the first real challenge. You know offense and defensively and it was a very good game. It came down to the end and execution dude, like Ohio State. That second half was totally different. The first half it was looking sketchy, but that second half Ohio State was like now we're going to insert our dominance on them and they did and they could not stop Marvin Harrison Jr, like you know where the ball was going. Yeah, you know, that's really really the most consistent offense they had and I think it's interesting to hear you have that point of view.
Speaker 3:whereas I thought the offense stunk, I thought the offense stunk. That's not saying no, I'm not saying it was good.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying the only consistent thing they had was Marvin Harrison. It was a lot of drop passes. The running game was in. You know what I mean? Defense played well, that's what it was. It was really defense.
Speaker 3:Penn State was one for 16 on third down and that one conversion didn't come until late. It might have been that last drive where they gave up the touchdown, but the way I look at the game a lot of people look at wins and losses. Whatever I'm taking in the running with the way I look at the game is how do you hold a team to one for 16 on third down and you win by eight points? Like those just don't work. What was it? Was it 20 to 12? Yet those just don't like align properly to me. Maybe it's the coach in me, I'm not sure, but it's just like I'm looking at that game like how do you hold an opponent one to 16 on third down and you only win by eight?
Speaker 1:But I think it was a really. It was a real defensive team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I agree, it was a real defensive game though.
Speaker 1:Nobody, like I say like nobody was really moving the ball a lot Like it wasn't like this, you know, up and down the field. That's the kind of things that I look at.
Speaker 3:That's the kind of things I look at why, why or what do we need to do to move the ball. Like we were going through an hour and we weren't like what needs to happen for us to be able to move the ball. And that's what's troubling about. You know, when I watch games and I see, okay, yeah, we won, but what was the floor of the game?
Speaker 1:like, like why didn't we score?
Speaker 3:more. Why were we held so many different times, like you know? So that's kind of how I look at it. So, as a my House State fan, am I inspired by this win? No, but it's a necessary win For us into beating, you know, michigan later on. No Like, but that's a whole different situation. Michigan fried, so hopefully they figure out that. Have you, have you? Yes, I heard it's kidding. Every day something else comes out like it's crazy.
Speaker 1:But you know and like I'm not the conspiracy theorist type of guy, but also it's like you've been hearing all these rumors for the past couple of years that hardball want to get back to NFL. Like it's always every year, no matter what they do outside of not winning the championship, there's always rumors about him going back to the NFL. A couple teams being, you know, talking about. They wanted them and there was a possibility and then, like you said, it's like okay, how do we get him out of here without it being something attached to it Because you're owing too much money? So you almost got to like you know what I mean, do?
Speaker 3:you think that's coming from like no.
Speaker 1:I just think, I just think someone I think, I just I think it's some type of sabotage, like from inside to outside.
Speaker 1:It has to be from inside. Who else knows? Yeah, who else knows if you're? If this is, if the allegations are true, the only people who knew is the coaching staff. There's no way that the, the athletics director, knows. You know me, nobody know like it has to be. If you're doing this. It has to be a small circle of people who know and hard bar you have to be at the head of it. But he also hired a lot of billa check guys. So they saying like it's just a you know what I mean kind of a culture thing with bringing in those Patriot guys and I don't know man, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Patriots always been sketching NFL. They've been caught several times. Of course they only get a slap on the wrist, but yeah, you know several times doing just random sketchy things. And now what's happening in Michigan with some people who has ties to the Patriots?
Speaker 3:I didn't even know that. Yeah, I know that she's getting serious and it's like I'm not the type of person to be like or the type of fan or the type of Sports analysts to be like. You know, oh, they cheated all week. No, I'm not really on that, so I kind of just was letting it. You know. Whatever, I'm not about to jump to any conclusions, but I read in the more and more I was reading. I'm like you know, I'm all for the facts like it, no matter how I want to feel about something, Whatever the facts say is what I'm gonna go with every single time. And these facts is looking pretty damning.
Speaker 1:Anyway, alabama beats Tennessee. I felt like that was a game need to be notable. Just with Tennessee being ranked and them beating Alabama last year, they came back and beat them about 14 this year. But even more surprising, maybe maybe not Utah being USC. Granted was only about two, but Utah's had USC number for quite a while I think USC is cap for real man, man see okay, all right. That's the reason I put this game over, because I almost put the the UNC and Florida State.
Speaker 3:I think it was you and see you and see. Play Virginia Florida.
Speaker 1:For the state play, do do. That's why I meant I almost put that game on, but I was like, nah, this is USC need to be talked about, especially with all the news of Kayla Williams and how he's talking about his, his Pro demands and his threats. That come back to the college football if the right team isn't, you know, in position to select any city wanted.
Speaker 3:He won a part ownership in the team that Drafted like dude.
Speaker 1:You know you can't even afford to buy a minority stake in the team right, just give it to you like you have to buy into this.
Speaker 3:They could give it to whoever they want. Will a doubt it, but I mean technically speaking.
Speaker 1:Somebody gonna hand you a hundred million dollars and before you even play it down for my team.
Speaker 3:I, I Know I did, but that's what buddy you know, that's what buddy said and unfortunately it's like the game is turning towards people having that Kind of pulled. Granted, I don't think that's gonna work, but I mean for him to even say it is saying a lot like for the entire.
Speaker 1:Before the integrity of the NFL. You can't plan NFL and own have owned any part of any team. That's the same thing. It is a rule.
Speaker 1:That's what they were saying about Tom Brady and that's the reason why I Think it was that's Miami had got penalized Because they were trying to talk ownership with Tom Brady while he was still in the league and was trying to coerce him before he went to Tampa A year before he left the Patriots. They were trying to coerce him to come to Miami by giving him stake in Miami's a team. It's just like you can't do that. You can't even talk about it. I guess they found some information where they was and I think Miami lost a draft pick or something because of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was, yeah, it was crazy. So that's why they was like, well with, that's why the whole thing with him and the Raiders took so long. It's because they want them a look, you can't come back. You can't say, okay, I'm on reside, you know in the year, or whatever right, or do you have to give up your stake. So yeah, I don't know what Kayla Williams think he owned, but yeah, bro, you ain't even that.
Speaker 3:I guess in a way it's looking In college now we can, we can change any rule, we can get you better buy a stake in USC.
Speaker 1:That's the only way you're gonna get a part of a team. But yeah, man, but far as his own field, man, like he's looking worse and worse, like it's like man, you kind of look kind of sketchy against Colorado but then you looked horrible against Against Notre Dame, like really bad disgusting.
Speaker 1:And then against Utah, you didn't look any better and I watched that game and I was like like this is just missing. These are, these are basic throws. You're just missing. Like this is not like a bunch of bro, you just missing bad decisions like right. I don't see him being number one pick and it's almost like Shit.
Speaker 3:You know your playoff chances are gone, which? We're gonna ask the championship hopes are gone. Your husband is pretty much out the window, but he did. He lost two games last year, still wanted.
Speaker 1:So I don't know but the rest of this season you're gonna have to put up godly number like Little crazy, because you he was. He didn't have no touchdown, he thought no touchdowns last game. Wow 24.
Speaker 1:He was 24, 34 for 256. No touchdowns yeah, so, bro, you just won a whole game with no touchdown, so you really didn't impact the game at all to score anyway, you had 32 points and none of them was passing touchdowns. That's crazy. So yeah, but yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't see him being the highest, especially if A boy in Washington keep doing what he doing he had a skink or two though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did, yeah, them, they. Yeah, they had a tough game too, but I still think he was so far ahead in those first five games Dead, you know, his stats still may portray him as being, you know, portray.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Speaking of that, let's jump back, jump into the AP top 10. Little switch up we still got Georgia at first, michigan at two, ohio State at three and Florida State at four, washington at five. You got a Oklahoma at six, texas at seven, oregon at eight. Bama jumps up into the top ten from 11 to 9 and Penn State only drops down to 10. I think they were seventh last week.
Speaker 1:Six or seven play last week and they drop. They drop down to ten. So I think they're looking at Ohio State kind of being elite and Only losing by eight. Like I said, I know it shouldn't matter, but you know they put all these imaginary factors In place to to boost people's ratings. Yeah, I'm not like I said I'm with you, I don't get it. I'm one of them.
Speaker 1:People's like look man, if you look like who's undefeated, like I'm looking at those like okay, like who deserves to be up here? Because you got Penn State at ten, but then you got Oregon State at eleven, you got Ole Miss at twelve, you got a Utah team at thirteen, got Notre Dame, which is six and two at fourteen, and LSU, just six and two at fifteen. So I'm just looking at these teams like Teams that should be higher. I think you got Tennessee, which is they five and two, like it's just, it's weird, it's so weird, you know.
Speaker 1:So of course, all the undefeated teams are up top, only undefeated. There's a rank that's not up top is Air Force and James Madison, which there's going to schedule just isn't hard enough to make it to the top ten. So but you still got Ohio State in Michigan, which that's a one loss. So one of them are gonna definitely move, but right now that's probably about it. I mean that far as the top 16s that can affect each other, the rest of their losses are gonna have to come, you know, rest of their schedule because nobody else plays. But if you think if there's somebody like a Bama gets to the SEC championship against a Georgia and win, that maybe can boost, boost them up or something they're in for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just I'm just thinking like but if Washington wins the Pac-T, you know man, I'm just thinking, if Oklahoma wins Big 12, if they, you know, play, SEC champion.
Speaker 3:One loss, that I mean, you can but, yeah, yeah, there's zero chance of that team not making playoff.
Speaker 1:But then who you, when you look at the, but then you look at the ACC, who knocks off Florida State. Who do you kick out then between the four? That's I'm saying you got a Georgia who's been very consistent the past couple years. So them losing to Bama one loss, do you just kick them out? Do you cook? If Michigan loses to Ohio, make you you kick them out of of whole house. They lose to Michigan. Do you just kick them out like I think the most.
Speaker 1:Team is Florida State, if they lose any game from here on out, they're gonna be out. But, dean, do you move a Washington up if they remain undefeated, or Oklahoma, like it's just?
Speaker 3:It's gonna be tough. I like I don't think I've seen this many different scenarios in a while. That's not sense.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking like being Alabama fan, I think it's gonna be hard for them to get in, even if they beat a Georgia, because then if Even though I don't think they jump over a one-loss Michigan or one loss oh, see what they, what they.
Speaker 3:What happens, though, is that Alabama lost early, so that's gonna work in their favor. Yes, yeah, because the year that Ohio State won the national championship to 2014 season, they we lost the was at the second game of the season, lost at home in Virginia Tech, and we was able to battle all the way back. So that's the bright side of getting an early loss, because the committee also looks at you know what, what you've done recently leading up to that ranking, so that might that, if they, if Alabama wins out, I would bet my bottom dollar that they make the playoff.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this is and and yes, maybe only and then the only challenge that because you have Texas and Ohio and not that Texas and Oklahoma ahead of them right now at seven and six. So Texas already having to play each other to exactly that's what I'm see, that's what I'm thinking down the road. So you got Texas who beat Alabama. That's their only loss. But if, if Texas beat Oklahoma's, let's say for the, for the big 12 championship.
Speaker 1:Let's say that happens, then there's no way you vault Alabama Over at Texas, even if they beat Georgia. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I get you that's gonna be tough, and then it also depends on how they win exactly and how they lose right, that's gonna be interesting. I'm here for it Because if you have a one loss Ohio State team, one loss Michigan team, one loss Texas, one loss Oklahoma or well, I feel like either Ohio State or Michigan is gonna be undefeated. But, like you said that, whoever loses that game, they're only gonna have one loss and then it's gonna be to a top team. That's gonna be tough, that's.
Speaker 3:I'm glad I don't got anything to do with that, yeah?
Speaker 1:that's what I'm looking at. I'm looking at like the top 10, like the Penn State.
Speaker 3:There's no way they in no, still not, but for some reason I heard they have the tiebreaker though. So if, if, if Ohio State and Michigan ends up with one loss, it goes to Penn State, which I Think if Ohio State loses, because obviously if Ohio State wins that game, that mean they've beaten. Yeah, yeah, they've been over them. That's it, yeah.
Speaker 1:I Don't know it's, it's yeah, yeah, cuz then I'm even looking organs done because they lost to Washington. So what?
Speaker 3:if they went out, though, the pack 12 has a championship game too, don't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they would have to beat Washington. But yeah so yeah, but then I think they had to cancel them out. They'd be like, okay, well, y'all lost to each other. You know what I mean. So what they were. But they were ranked high, yeah, but, like I say, it's only for this year, unfortunately. Yeah, this would be the perfect year for it to be eight like or ten, but right now, like the only team that's probably safe if they went out as Florida State.
Speaker 3:That's the only one I can see, georgia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, georgia. But I'm just, I'm in just saying like oh well, I'm just assuming, if they get one loss, like okay, between Michigan and Ohio State, whoever wins that game will be number one. If Georgia loses, I feel, like Georgia, florida would be number two if they were to stay?
Speaker 3:Georgia, florida State, georgia, florida State, ohio State, michigan. Definitely control their own destiny. Yes, and then you get into. I Just think Washington might need some help, I think, if those 14, what if those four teams can't win out.
Speaker 1:So well, washington will have to go undefeated in order to bump one of them. One loss teams up top out because they've been Solid top-ten the whole year at five. So Florida State will have to lose in order for them to get in. That's the only way I see them getting. I even think if Michigan State or Ohio State lose each other, that doesn't bump one of them out. And even, like I said, a one-wild Georgia will have to lose the Alabama for you to even question them being out. So but if Florida State, like you said, but if Florida State in Washington went out, I I do they bump out of Georgia a one-loss Georgia. That's tough. I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions. Yeah, I'm glad I don't.
Speaker 3:Way in too deep.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So anyway, let's jump to the grown man's lane. We're gonna jump at the jump into the power rankings. A little switch up there, man. Nfl power rank. You got KC at one now.
Speaker 3:Damn. We got bumped out of the top 10 and we didn't play.
Speaker 1:Look, man Jeez, my hands is up. I got. I got this straight from the NFLcom so I didn't get like what they have was like seven or eight last week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what y'all was 10.
Speaker 1:I didn't.
Speaker 3:I didn't think that that was a. I didn't think no, y'all was 10th last week.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, that was last week.
Speaker 1:So Casey takes the top spot now, with Miami losing to Philly. Philly's at number two. They stand, no, they move up to number two. That was number three. San Francisco now moves down to three with the loss to the Vikings.
Speaker 1:Baltimore moves up one with their win over Detroit, miami at five, jacksonville at six. They moved up one with their win over the Saints, which Doesn't really do much for them, but they've been very consistent. Detroit, with the loss to Baltimore, drops down to seventh. They was fourth, dallas stays in the hundred nine, no Dallas at eight, buffalo at nine and Cleveland jumps up to ten, with which really Really burns me.
Speaker 1:We'll talk about that a little later. But yeah, no, that was some BS, but nonetheless can't do nothing about it now. Um, nfl, we can. I mean whoa, let's go back, let's go back, let's go back. Any questions about this? I Guess I don't want to just jump past it.
Speaker 3:Do you think you see that you?
Speaker 1:don't agree with.
Speaker 3:Dallas I just can't see, because they had a bot too. Yeah, I just don't know about Dallas, man, I gotta see more. But from what I've seen of Dallas, I Don't think that they're a top 10 to I mean I don't know, man, because that that offense is nasty, you know, and I'm not saying that's in a good way, I mean, nasa isn't disgusting like, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm kind of with you. I think they're hanging around Because of those first couple games, like I think people were just holding on to that Because the last couple games haven't been that impressive gets in the Giants.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that's why I be talking about we gotta look at who these teams are playing before we jump to conclusions. They, it's only fair. That's that's exactly why I'm just on that so heavily, because I mean it, it makes a difference. I'm never gonna say a team that beats all of all week teams, I can't say that all they're not any good, but I can't say I would like to see them in it, you know, play a tougher team, or I don't really know about that team. I'm never gonna say, hey, this team's won 20 straight regular season games. They haven't played anybody there trash. But I can't say I'm interested to see how they react to playing this team, this team, this team, so forth, so on. So you know.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree with that. I mean, I think, with what's recently happened this past week, I don't hate these, these rankings again. How do you kick Cincinnati out and they haven't played? How do you keep Dallas in and they haven't played? You know, I mean, if you're gonna kick, if you're gonna kick since the out and they haven't played in, dallas should be out too if they haven't played. You said they gotta set 11 this week, or um, I did not say anything, but I still, I still got to pull it up. I definitely look.
Speaker 1:I Believe it was close. If my tablet wants to load, which now that I needed to, it probably won't Always be like that like, but I think yeah, you have to be right there. I'm pretty sure it was at 11. So Top stories in week eight. We talked about Calamari a little bit last week. He fully participated in practice today, so we may see him next week. They may just not let him play this week, just protocol, just give any extra week. But he did fully protect the pain in practice. Don't know if it makes a much of a difference in Arizona as far as Down the road or playoff implications, just especially in that NFC West very tough, but um, he fully practiced. So he's a great. He's a good player, or so we should see how he affects the team. Brock Purdy and concussion protocol following the Vikings loss. I Don't, I can't recall a hit or anything to happen.
Speaker 3:I was thinking about that earlier, like how.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm thinking like maybe, yeah, I don't know. That's on sound like. When I heard that, I was like I don't recall anything happening that he've been. Yeah, yeah, but normally on Monday night you wouldn't practice Tuesday, though, or make it could have happened today.
Speaker 3:It could happen to that, I mean it could have really been anything could have fell down the stairs at the house, like when we got off the plane on what. That's true. That's true early Tuesday morning. I don't know what I mean. Yeah, I think we get, and I actually I'm glad that you said that like that, because I actually sparked something in my head. It's just like not everything happens during the game, like of course they're not gonna say hey, yeah, yeah, slip down a puddle in the kitchen and hit his head on the coffee maker and you know right, right, right.
Speaker 3:All of a sudden he's in protocol and when we clear him he'll play. If you don't get clear the angle, play.
Speaker 1:So Actually actually Seattle's at 11. Yeah, at 12. My fault catch up. Finally, tablet. But yeah, you got mouse Garrett buying a minority stake in the Cleveland Cavaliers. I thought that was interesting, yeah, yeah. So I think that's cool when players venture over into Other sports and invest in the town that they play in. Aaron Rogers has a stake in the Milwaukee Bucks. I think Patrick Mahomes has a minority ownership in the Royals so you're talking about your team out there too.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I think that you know players definitely dabbling other sports and protecting their investments and their longevity. You know what I mean for his generational wealth, especially our black players. I finally learned and do some of the things that a lot of the Caucasian players have been doing to Stay afloat and stay invested into create generational wealth. I'm glad to see that we're starting to do that and invest in some big-ticket Money makers.
Speaker 1:Just soon, someday you may see mouse Garrett as our owner, or you know what I mean in NBA, right, he could hoop too. So If you've ever seen him in the off-season playing, yeah, so I think that's a cool thing. And then a see-how to specs and expected to sign. Frank Clark Got cut from Denver, don't know why. How he was really good last year for Kansas City I think he may have been second on the team in sacks To sign with Denver got a nice contract to get cut now about to go to a see-how team who it's a very, very disciplined defense. Granted, they don't get a lot of pressures, but on the back end they do play very good. To add to that linebacker core when Bobby Wagner and him I think he'll fit in good, what you think?
Speaker 3:Man, yeah, I think it'll work like I love how teams make moves and Decided they want to make their team better. I mean, that's not anything I could really speak to being a Cincinnati Bengals fan, but like, try it. I mean shit, what's the worst gonna happen?
Speaker 1:Yeah same here with the coach, like we. Very seldom do you see a sign in Big name free agents in the middle of the speed or making trade.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we, yeah, very seldom do we do that, unless we're like in desperate need and if it's like a key position, like a quarterback or you know Me, summing it, that nature. But for the most part we pretty much shrug our shoulders and just dug it out. Oh yeah. So I thought that was kind of cool. We're gonna get down to our favorite Segment of the show, which is a top-year shit. I can't hear to talk about his Niners. He didn't give me anything to say about him. I'm sure next week We'll hear about it after they win.
Speaker 3:This week we're probably you know, right, god damn.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 3:For sure. Know who I'm picking. The big one, no.
Speaker 1:Premature Lee.
Speaker 3:There's. I just was like. To me, the way my team is constructed, it doesn't even matter who plays. Actually, I feel like we have a better chance of winning with the usuals plan. So I feel like our team is just not great at scouting. We were we're.
Speaker 3:Just Last time I checked, I think we had one scout, where every team usually has three to five at least at minimum, you know so it's like we've never been a team to Really know what's going on and I feel like if you throw a curveball at us, you know at least with party in there we're getting fastballs.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying you really gonna get them or you're gonna miss them.
Speaker 3:But but throwing somebody in there, that's not a starter. I Mean that's that's like throwing a curveball and it's just like you know, at least with a fastball you're either gonna swing and hit it or you're gonna swing and miss. Curveball might make you look goofy, you might duck in the right, so it's just like I. The way our team is constructed, it won't really matter. I'd actually take my chances with having the regulars in there and then then a backup.
Speaker 1:So but I also think too, if, if you and I'm gonna talk about the night or we'll just talk about the night in the fack Vikings game. Just from our perspectives and and from mine watching that game, I think not having Trent Williams was a huge deal, because they was Not. They didn't get any. I don't think they Sacked him, no, they didn't get any sacks. I marked that out.
Speaker 1:But, getting pressure on Brock Purdy Not having Deebo Samuel. I think that affects them a lot too, because that he, him and his versatility helps create Open, helps, get other receivers open. I believe that they did not use Christian McCaffrey, even though he was available. They didn't use him like he normally use them. I didn't see him line up in the receiver. I think they was just kind of purely using him as a receiver, I mean as a running back, and that he he wasn't explosive.
Speaker 1:I mean he did this thing but it wasn't like Like that grime of Cavry that I thought it was gonna be Brock Purdy. The only thing I could say about him is, for some reason the ball was selling a lot and I've seen that, like early in the first quarter, like his passes was a little high. Um, for him to be playing in a I mean essentially a dome, right, normally you see that outside, you know, I mean in outside weather, where you know air, uh, wind may affect it. But to be playing in essentially a dome in the ball selling Uh, just kind of, was a red flag to me that it was probably gonna be a long night, especially when he threw that one to Kiddles and it was super high and he got hit in the grind like I was like uh, that keeps selling man.
Speaker 1:There's gonna be some picks.
Speaker 3:He threw some dots, though, like what I was, you know, watching the game and preparing for our game on Sunday. I noticed he was hitting those seams, man, and we, we, we bad against the seams. We play a lot of zone and I feel like those seams are gonna be open. So you know, but of course I don't get paid the big bucks to scout and you know, relay the message and coach up the booth, and so we're, hopefully, you know, our coaches saw that and can make the adjustments. But that's, we're terrible against that like.
Speaker 3:So that's how, uh, baltimore kills us a lot when those seam passes because they're I mean, they're just not, they're easy reads. You know, you get the ball, you let the wide receiver or the tight end settle in the in that you know dead spot of the zone, dip it to him. So We'll see, and we we're. We're terrible against the run as well. Uh, we run a base nickel, meaning we have three cornerback. We always have. So it's just like you know, if you're gonna have five db's like as your base defense, you might want that third cornerback to at least have some kind of size in contact.
Speaker 1:He gotta be able to tackle we when we run, when we run nickel to, uh, we run in a lot with Kenny Moore in the in the slide Um, but he's, he, he's very instinctive, um, and he's not scared to tackle. So he, he definitely gets in there, yeah and plus he's very good at blisters.
Speaker 3:So like I'm gonna take anybody one on one and open space over really over anybody In our defensive backfield. Our linebackers too.
Speaker 1:They're not really good tacklers either, so we'll see, we'll see yeah um, before I'm not gonna talk about the coast game around, I want to talk about let's talk about the Ravens beating the Lions first, and then I'm gonna come back to this coast game.
Speaker 1:Beat them like a drum. That was crazy. Um, I, it's crazy, we couldn't get Justin back in here. But, like for Him, the he's, his, his gripe has kind of been week after week that he just it's the same. On offense, he's not seeing that new. They're bringing this new offensive coordinator. They promised this, um, this wide open down the field, passing uh Offense, and hadn't materialized yet. Uh, yesterday, huh First off that man had all day to throw the ball, like all day to throw the ball.
Speaker 3:I was kinda just following cause.
Speaker 1:I was like we got the week off.
Speaker 3:so me and my wife and the kids, we were just out kinda shopping and, you know, just doing some things during the early part of, you know, the Sunday games, and I'm just checking my phone, I'm like man, awesome we're going crazy, man.
Speaker 1:And usually, you know Detroit, they're like pride themselves on being tough, especially on the defensive side. So when I was watching the highlights and they were cutting back and forth between our game and their game, like like it was just, like they were just stuck in quicksand, like they weren't moving like as they normally get after you know the new Detroit Lions, so yeah, now Lamar carved them up, running, throwing everything. Everybody got into the mix. I mean OBJ Andrews called a touchdown. I think Lamar ran for one, do for three. They, they flowers did his, everybody. I mean everybody was in the offense.
Speaker 3:You know OBJ do anything.
Speaker 1:I don't think he called a touchdown, but I mean I think he had a few yards and a couple of first down catches, but still, like I mean, everybody was productive. So hopefully, Justin, if you're watching, that's the Ravens offense you've been waiting to see and hopefully they continue that. Don't think Lamar was under sender, under sender too much, but if you can get this production from the pistol or the shotgun, and that's where he's custom.
Speaker 1:That's where he comfortable at Dan's shoe, let him be. I even think Gus. I think Gus Edwards made a score too Like yeah, Gus Edwards had a rushing touchdown. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Odell Beckham five catches, 49 yards on seven targets. Ok.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not saying. I think everybody was involved, even Aguilar, I think he called a touchdown.
Speaker 3:Aguilar did. Aguilar caught one, mark Andrews caught two. Gus Edwards actually had an 80 yard reception, but he did not score on it.
Speaker 1:OK, ok, yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to recall like the highlights and what I seen, what I seen. So I'm trying that's what I'm saying, like I'm thinking that. But I mean, hey, he said he wanted to spread the ball around. They spread the ball around and it was a complete domination of a very good Detroit team.
Speaker 3:So yeah, made them look like the old Detroit man. The very yeah.
Speaker 1:All right Now. Last but not least, man talk about this Coast Brown game. Of course I watched the whole game First off. I'm just going to put it out there Before we talk about the cause we shouldn't have never been in that position. I'm going to say that I know a lot of people ain't been talking about it, but we shouldn't have been in that position. Gardner Menchew, something really OK, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Y'all have four turnovers and y'all still almost drop 40. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 3:If you have two less turnovers, y'all beat the brakes off of them. Glad you say that OK go ahead, because that's that's.
Speaker 1:That was about to be my first point. That's nuts With that. Gardner Menchew wow, he's a very, very, very good backup, probably the best backup in the league probably him and Tyra Taylor yeah, he tries to do too much. Most of the turnovers comes from him when he's getting sat still trying to throw the ball and they end up being a fumble. Yeah, but not sensing the pressure like the one in the end zone.
Speaker 3:Yeah bruh. That turned into a touchdown. Yes you go right there. That's the game.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:The block field goal game game.
Speaker 1:So there was several incidents. We shouldn't even have been in that situation, you know. So that's the first thing I want to say Now, moving forward, two, not one. Two back to back the same player, terrible, calls, terrible, you call illegal contact, when he didn't even initiate the contact.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he was still open, so I didn't like the. He didn't change the direction of the.
Speaker 1:Bro, he didn't change the direction of the receiver, the direction of the route.
Speaker 3:He didn't prevent him to catch and wide open. I've never seen a penalty where a guy is just able to do an unaffected handstand in the end zone wide open life. So it's just like, yeah, that's great, so that one, first one, then the second one.
Speaker 1:bro, nobody in the league could have caught that ball Uncatchable.
Speaker 3:Absolutely Uncatchable.
Speaker 1:The ball bounces into the stands. That show you how uncatchable the ball was. It won off a fingertip. It wasn't off a helmet nut, bro. It was nowhere near bro, yeah you know caught on the same player Like come on that was pretty bad.
Speaker 1:And then you got. My thing is this with refs and I've said this before first off they are able to affect the game at the worst times and if you're gonna take challenges away within the two minutes and you're challenging all them, come from the booth. I Think you should extend that time. That should be way like. It should be the last five minutes of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3:We also got to get back to being able to challenge penalty. Sue man, that part like get the game right. Like if it's gonna take an extra 10 minutes to complete the game, get the game right, that's it. That's all anybody wants. I don't care about how long it's gonna take or whatever.
Speaker 1:Get the game right, but my thing is, if you're re, my thing is you should be reviewing every play anyway, as far as, like, sometimes they throw a flag and they'll pick it up and say, oh, there's no, there's no call. That's somebody in a booth watching the play over saying, hey, pick that flag up, that one, the flag.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Then why can't we do it within the last two minutes, at the end of the game, when there's games on the line and there's clearly a bad call? Why can't you say oh hey, look, that was not passing the ferries, that wasn't illegal. Tuck, jim picked a flag up, got a point. I'm mad at it. Like nobody cares, as the like you said, as fans watching football anyway Nobody cares is gonna take longer if you get the call right. We're more mad that you get the call wrong. You affect the outcome of a game and then at the end of the game, the next day Possibly, we get an apology from the NFL saying, oh yeah, we got it wrong when in the moment you could have stopped the game and got it right. And y'all don't want to take that effort and this happened too Many times. I'm not even just saying this, cuz I happen because it's the coach. It happened with the Rams one year. That could have got them to the playoffs, like it's so many teams that at crucial moments like Well yeah, the Rams in the Saints.
Speaker 3:It actually thanks and help the Rams.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my, but yeah, yeah. So you got these games, this very important they can. You look at us we three and four now versus could have been four and three. We're still battling. We got a team above us that unbeat us twice. So we need every win in order to possibly be a playoff team. So you just took one away. And I'm not even say took one away. Who knows what would have happened if those two calls one made. You know what I mean. I feel go touch that. Whatever could have happened still could have happened. But you take. You take it no matter fact. I do know what happened, because we had a strip sack on the first one.
Speaker 3:Yep so we would have won Yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep. So I can actually say that this game, this cause determined again, cause it's cost y'all and and I usually don't say that. I usually, you know they all is a L, whatever move forward, which it is. But that would have, that would have won us a game in this, in this, is crazy. So that's man. It is very tough. So that's my rant about that.
Speaker 1:So, and last but not least, we're gonna jump into these pickings. Oh, it was tough week for everybody. I Only picked six correct games. I pick five, justin pick four and you pick six. Okay, the the 49ers threw us off the Philly not Philly. Miami threw us a lot of us off those last couple games. I think you would only want to pick the jacks. I think I was only one to pick the Giants. Like it was weird. It was a couple here and there to like the Steelers in the In the Rams.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's literally bro, just little.
Speaker 1:There's little games like that, like one off that one person picked, the other three didn't. You know, they just kind of got us to that. But everybody, I mean it's coming, I mean everybody's gonna be like Everybody. I mean this comment, I mean everything's getting closer. I mean Isaac still up there with 63, 62, you 60, justin 55, and that's really only like I say, you only got four this week.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I got my picks in that one week. Yeah, you probably. Yeah, you probably would have been. There was some sure, some sure fire.
Speaker 1:You probably would have got I mean, even if you'd have got three more wins or four wins out of those. You know, however, games Sucks it would have definitely worked in your favor. So that's what we I guess me, I mean do our picks. I put his picks in, I'm sure, justin to throw his in later on once he sees in the chat. Let's start with a buffalo and the bucks, bucks coming off of loss bills, coming off a win Hold on oh no.
Speaker 1:Buffalo. Did they lose? No, yes, they lost to the Patriots. Yeah, it's a ball, both teams coming off a loss. You got three and three bucks, four and three bills I'm more of a believer in the books Pouncing back off a loss, then bills bounce them back.
Speaker 3:I just hey, before I forget to mention man. Yeah, what's up? Pacers is cooking. I think he's got like 125 points with damn near ten minutes ago in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1:Oh, shoot Okay. Yeah, they beating shit out of Washington cool, cool Texans, panthers I'm going Panthers, panthers need to get a win. Come on yeah, come on, yeah, and this will be the perfect team to get it against Rams and Cowboys. See, this would be at the game to the Cowboys lose. I'm gonna pick on, but I have no idea sir, yeah, I'm gonna pick Dallas, but I'm not a hundred percent confidence in this. Okay, vikings, packers, packers coming off the loss, vikings coming off a good win.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go Vikings here. I don't.
Speaker 1:Man, it's hard for me not to believe in the Packers and to kind of believe in the Vikings, but but what's your collar been cooking though? I'm gonna go back first cousins. So I'm gonna go Minnesota, just cuz they're there on the high street course. I'm going coats over Saints. They're both three and four Saints, just beat Tampa was a Tampa Bay beat.
Speaker 3:It was a To Jags they lost to the Jags. Yeah. I'm gonna go Saints that one, but I I think it can go either way.
Speaker 1:Patriots, dolphins, dolphins, patriots just beat them the bills. They usually play the dolphins tough, but the dolphins have been very close in a lot of games over the years and after losing the Philly in a game where they had 10 pill in these and Philly had none, which is crazy, that's crazy, especially talking about the whole ref and thing, I think the dolphins bound back, bounce back. I think it's gonna be closer than we think. Of course, I would never pick the Patriots. That's just another one of my things. Jets and Giants. You got three and three jets versus two and five Giants. Wait, it's Tyrod playing, because I may pick the Giants just based on the fact that he's playing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I definitely like so much better with him.
Speaker 3:I definitely like. I definitely like the Jets defense. Tyrod is playing. The Jets defense is just so good though, so I'm gonna put that, so I'm gonna put Giants.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:That'll just be my pick, like if Tyrod starts the game, I'm going with the Giants, if Dan's gonna start the game, I'm going with the Jets.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, you did do it. No, you did that with Sissy too. Okay, you're like your girls playing.
Speaker 3:That's a Quarterback that makes a difference, like I, I try to make my shit as accurate as to what I think is gonna happen as possible, honestly, depending on who starts that game is. I mean, that's who I got, but I mean no, no, no.
Speaker 1:You got Jacksonville and Steelers, you got five and two Jacksonville and four and two Steelers.
Speaker 3:Hopefully Jacksonville wins it, but I mean, I don't know, I'm picking pit, hopefully Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1:I know it doesn't help you none, but I'm a good Jacksonville that one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm a good pit, although I think it could that one could go either way too, because the Steelers is some kind of way find a ways to get wins find a way is the wind brother Falcons.
Speaker 1:You got four and three Falcons versus two and four Titans.
Speaker 3:I'm going, falcons, I'm gonna go Titans on that, just cuz I'm not gonna pick the time now.
Speaker 1:But it may be. Will levis first game? I heard they may be starting him, so you, hmm, ten hills hurt. So If that matters to you, Eagles six and one Eagles versus the commanders now see this will be the game that the Eagles lose. This will be that type of game.
Speaker 3:I can see it, but I doubt it.
Speaker 1:Go. Philly Browns and Seahawks Four and two, both teams, both teams playing good, both teams coming off a win.
Speaker 3:I think I heard something saying that Homeboy was out, though I'm gonna go see Hawks.
Speaker 1:Oh, brian, but uh, pj Walker's undefeated, right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's only gonna last so long.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 3:Expert voodoo.
Speaker 1:I was gonna pick Seattle anyway, just cuz after what the Browns did to us, I hope they do lose. They owe themselves. Loss Ravens Cardinals.
Speaker 3:Ravens is gonna tear them apart. Hopefully battle with the birds battle with the birds Casey and. Broncos.
Speaker 1:It's sad that everybody in their division is just horrible. Nobody challenges them terrible. Oh, it's been like that for years to it has been bingles and Niners.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go Niners on that. I'm sorry those nation. I Just have zero faith in us. Man. I zero, it's like zero, but I mean the year one. Just super boy has zero faith, even though I mean as well. So we'll see, but I have zero. There's nothing that just shows me that we, that we, we doubt it.
Speaker 1:I say, I say nine is. I just don't see the niners Losing three in a row.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's tough too I think that's probably tomorrow, but. But the bingles is a tough game like and we did speak to Homeboy being in the protocol, so we don't even know they still got those Enthusiasts.
Speaker 1:I know we play even worse against backups, so they, they have a oh boy, donald, they have darno which they, which they're, but but they but in that system.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's the bingles like.
Speaker 1:So there's a chance, yeah, and you know what I am gonna pick. I'm gonna pick, since he on that.
Speaker 3:Dan, I hope you're right, but I don't think that's what's gonna happen, so I'm picking Bears two and five bears versus two and four charges.
Speaker 1:You going with your charges, you still on that, you still right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not riding. Pause, I'm not riding, but I am gonna pick the charges. I'm picking the bears.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you I'm off that train and I'm gonna continue to be off of it and I'm glad this year they're showing me that they're showing their true colors and hopefully, they get rid of a coach and start over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't like the coach he's in. Yeah, but the Nixon Celtics is a good game, man. They ballin to right now, yeah, buddy.
Speaker 1:Well, that's not sad. I figured it was gonna be a good game.
Speaker 3:They always play each other stuff and I'm gonna just apologize for the fans and the viewers. Now you will see my eyes shift up. I have, like I'm looking at a lot of TVs right now. Yeah, you know, I know your setup. So, yeah, it's actually improved. I can't wait to show you what it you understand.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, you and your also. It's too. You got two next to each other now.
Speaker 3:I got. I got three total and then I have I'm putting up two. Will be up either this weekend or next week. I'm gonna add two more, so I'm high five total.
Speaker 1:Okay. So yeah, yeah we're gonna have to come through and check it out.
Speaker 3:Hey, it's always open, always last game, monday night.
Speaker 1:Raiders and Lions definitely the Lions. Lions, yeah, I don't see. I don't see them losing back to back, especially not to the Raiders of all teams. So I got him locked in and Ike already had put his in last week because he knew he wasn't gonna be here. So I'm gonna have to scroll up and see he is. But when is it?
Speaker 3:Up to 137 points with four minutes left, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1:He picked, he picked bills dolphins, jets, jags, titans, texans, cowboys, packers, saints, eagles, browns, ravens Chiefs, niners, chargers and Lions. So he's on that Chargers bandwagon too still. So we'll get Justin's later. I'm sure, like I said, he'll drop them in there once he see everybody dropping theirs in the chat. And yeah, man, guess. Final thoughts, man, we, we pulled it out. Man, an hour and ten minutes, just me you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I actually got a go take the baby, so I don't do your thing me too, man, she was like a once you don't the podcast. God, it was like I can't make it up. That's exactly. So, yeah, I need to do some things once you don't pocket. So yeah, we go ahead and cut it. And, as always, I'm not a rich me man. Give me in the chat.
Speaker 1:Yes sir, yes sir, See you out next week, man, hopefully with a full crew man we holler, yes sir.